Need help with nicotine levels.

[tnt56]

I've been slowly dropping my nic level in all my juices from 24mg down to 18mg, because I was having a really hard time sleeping at night. Also trying to ween myself slowly of the nic levels to try and help the craving for the analogs. The 24mg would cure the nic craving but I never got a good nights sleep. Went to the 18mg. Doesn't do a whole lot for the nic craving but it cures the hand to mouth addiction. When I go to the 18mg I get weaker for the analogs and vape my lungs out. Still problems sleeping. Droped down to some 12mg, in a few different flavors that I kinda enjoy and can deal with. Still the same thing, the lower nicotine level juice doesn't help the craving and that's when I get really weak for an analog. I vape so much after work that I spend all evening drinking water and go to bed with a very large cup of water, just in case I need a drink at night. I've got most of my gear finally sorted out where I'm enjoying it more and more. I was just hoping for some suggestions on the nicotine level. I know it's the nic level that's not letting me sleep, because I never had this problem before. I even take Xanax right before bed for the CPAP anxiety that happens when my face gets covered up. This sleep thing just started about 2-3 weeks after I started vaping. Like I said once I get home I vape like a mad man, to try and cure the analog craving. Suggestions are extremely welcome.

 

[Luestherin]

I have sleep issues as well. I mostly had issues sleeping 3-4 nights out of the week while smoking analogs. But when I went to vaping it seemed like I slept like a baby for the first two weeks then had a similar reaction to you and couldn't sleep at all. I vape 24mg juice and at night vape 18mg juice. What worked for me was Tylenol PM's. If your chain vaping 18mg at night and drink that much water, that the dehydration could be a factor in your sleeping issue. Maybe pace yourself a little bit better at night in regards to the vaping, stick with the 24mg until you don't have anymore analog desire.

It sounds to me as if you are causing a chain reaction that's contributing to your sleep issue. Slow down the chain vaping at night, stick to 24mg for a week. See how you feel. Try some over the counter sleep remedies, I hear Nyquil makes one now that's just for sleep. Then if you start feeling better and sleeping better, slowly drop your nic level to 18mg.

In any case, I hope you feel better soon, I hate having sleep issues, it really disrupts normal, everyday life.

 

[tnt56]

Thanks Luestherin, but the problem with taking any kind of sleep aid at night is mixing it with the Xanax. From past experience I know that can be a really bad time if certain things are mixed, like perscriptions and OTC meds.

 

[gthompson]

Get some of each. 18mg nic for most of the day, 24mg for the hard times when you want a cigarette the worst and 12mg (or possibly even lower) for later in the evening when bedtime is near.

 

[tnt56]

The worst part now is that I got so much juice I'm running out of things to put it in. Wish now I would have waited to order everything I did. should have given it more time I guess. I looked yesterday and got about 200ml of just dilfferent RY4, 150ml of coffee, and who knows what else. But I remember seeing the butterpopcorn and bacon flavor in that box. (Sorry had to make myself laugh just a bit.)
I got so much juice right now I haven't even got into my supply of HHV juice I ordered yet.

 

[TGCR]

ask your doc for a temporary sleep fix then follow the monkey's advice --- it is real good advice and sounds like you have enough stuff saved that you should have no prob finding a good mix of nic lvls --- or you could just go to 24 nic and ride out the sleep problems as these too shall pass as your body gets used to it

 

[recidivus]

Gthompson nailed it. If you have problems sleeping just have a daytime vape, and an evening vape. Many folks do this, some have a strong morning juice to get the initial cravings dealt with and use a lower nic for the rest of the day.

 

[sgenn99]

i usually vape 18-24 mg all day, then around 8pm i have the low nic malty toffee from backwoods brew...satisfies my sweet tooth, and gives me not-too-much nic for bedtime.

 

[tnt56]

ask your doc for a temporary sleep fix then follow the monkey's advice --- it is real good advice and sounds like you have enough stuff saved that you should have no prob finding a good mix of nic lvls --- or you could just go to 24 nic and ride out the sleep problems as these too shall pass as your body gets used to it

That's what the Xanax is for. Trust me you don't take it and drive or anything else. Guess when I get home I'm back into the juice box and see if I can find some more of the 12-15mg stuff that might be ready.

 

[recidivus]

Next time you order you can get your usual strength, and some 0mg of the same flavour, an empty bottle, and dilute it yourself. This way you can tailor make your own strength to your preferred levels.

 

[TGCR]

heck no --- xanax is great --- i am talking about the stuff they recommend you take in bed lol --- got it a few years ago or i would give you the name --- great stuff --- put me right to sleep --- just get only one script tho --- it really is for severe sleep troubles

ps --- when was your last sleep study --- if you are breathing better during the day --- might be time to adjust your machine

 

[minimalsaint]

Can't speculate on the nic level and the correlation to your sleepy time, but don't waste your $ on sleep aids like the ny-quil as it only contains Benadryl (which you can buy for a third of the price on its own). I strongly suggest hitting the vitamin aisle and getting some melatonin- it has worked wonders for me in the past and since it occurs naturally in your body, there should be no adverse reaction to your other prescriptions. The best part for me is that I have never woken up with a sleep aid hangover like you get with the Benadryl. Just my .02.....

 

[Justjames]

I found that our body absorb nicotine at very slow rate than smoking. I'm too have some problem before with vaping too much. I always get dizzy and light headache at night if I vape too much during the day. I'm still smoke, but only one in the morning with my coffee and night time when I feel light headache. I lower all my nicotine to 6mg but have one flavor with 12mg when I feel I need a boost. BTW I'm a light smoker a little bit more than half a pack a day, I don't chain vape only vape about 1ml. a day.

 

[tnt56]

heck no --- xanax is great --- i am talking about the stuff they recommend you take in bed lol --- got it a few years ago or i would give you the name --- great stuff --- put me right to sleep --- just get only one script tho --- it really is for severe sleep troubles

ps --- when was your last sleep study --- if you are breathing better during the day --- might be time to adjust your machine

Oh the CPAP is all adjusted like it should be. Heck I can't even take a nap without it. One thing l didn't mention is that I also have severe COPD to go along with everything else that happens when a person abuses their bodies when their young. I got home last night vaped 18mg for a while and then about an hour before bed I went straight to the 12mg. Did really good last night. I understand vaping is all about trial and error.
One more question? This is just for an example please understand! If I mix 5ml of 0 nic juice with 5ml of 24mg juice both the same flavor, same pg/vg mix etc. What will the final nic level be at. Around 12mg? I've never mixed any juice so I really don't know.

 

[TGCR]

Oh the CPAP is all adjusted like it should be. Heck I can't even take a nap without it. One thing l didn't mention is that I also have severe COPD to go along with everything else that happens when a person abuses their bodies when their young. I got home last night vaped 18mg for a while and then about an hour before bed I went straight to the 12mg. Did really good last night. I understand vaping is all about trial and error.
One more question? This is just for an example please understand! If I mix 5ml of 0 nic juice with 5ml of 24mg juice both the same flavor, same pg/vg mix etc. What will the final nic level be at. Around 12mg? I've never mixed any juice so I really don't know.

yep you got the nic right ... yeah it is half the fun of it -- figuring things out i mean but do not forget to shake your juice man especially the first few days after mixing it even if you are not vaping it