I have the new GGTS and have been having no issues. However, for the last 2 days I am having a pretty scary issue. Every time I push down on the button, it gets very hot. What could be causing this?? I have tried using different batteries, but it keeps happening. I'm talking HOT...! Please help....
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Probably not a short. Sounds like to high of resistance at the mechanical button contacts. You may have gotten juice or some other foreign material on the contacts causing the button not to make solid contact. Can you take the button out and clean with contact cleaner. I'm not familiar with the GGTS, but you may can spray with CC without removing the button. I don't know, worth a shot with CC cleaner or alcohol. .
what is this avs, or regular setup? shorting most often occurs from over-tightening atomizers on the adapter, breaking the silicone grommet on the center post on the underside of the atomizer, and creating a direct short from the atty to the center post of the adapter. with no resistance, the batteries discharge very quickly, and this causes them and the tube to get very hot. unscrew your atomizer and compare the underside center post, and the silicone ring that holds it in place, with another unused atty if you have one available.
there are other possibilities depending upon the setup you are using, but you'll have to be more detailed in terms of what you were doing and using, i.e. batteries, atomizer, avs or not, etc., when this occurred.
depending on whether or not your batteries are protected to prevent over discharge or not, you may want to either check the voltages with a meter, or just throw them out and start fresh. it's dangerous to use batteries that have been over-discharged, period, and particularly if done so rapidly from a possible short. a direct short could also cause the protection circuit to fail, so if you know for a fact they got very hot and you don't have a meter to test the voltage, consider using a new set of batteries and discarding the others.
there are other possibilities depending upon the setup you are using, but you'll have to be more detailed in terms of what you were doing and using, i.e. batteries, atomizer, avs or not, etc., when this occurred.
depending on whether or not your batteries are protected to prevent over discharge or not, you may want to either check the voltages with a meter, or just throw them out and start fresh. it's dangerous to use batteries that have been over-discharged, period, and particularly if done so rapidly from a possible short. a direct short could also cause the protection circuit to fail, so if you know for a fact they got very hot and you don't have a meter to test the voltage, consider using a new set of batteries and discarding the others.
Here is my setup. I am using the GGTS with a AW 18650 1600mah LIMN battery with the AVS. My atty is a LR 901. Here is what's weird...nothing else gets hot....just the button. I can take out my battery and it feels cool to the touch. I have noticed my batteries haven't gotten as much life since this has been happening though. I just took off the end cap and noticed the brass spring was bent and the coil was touching the aluminum stick looking thing. I luckily had a spare and put that in the GGTS and I think my problem may be solved. I will mess around with it a little more and post my results. Do you think I should abandon my batteries or should they be OK?
i think you've found the culprit too. you don't want the spring to touch the tubing at all, and since the heat was primarily centered around the button area it's a good guess that this was the issue. as far as the battery is concerned, if you've been using it since and noticed that performance/ life has decreased, they may have discharged below a safe threshold, and possibly too low to hold the charge as it should normally. this is the biggest concern with imr batteries; the chemistry is much safer than conventional li-ions (LiCo), but they lack a protection circuit to prevent over-discharge. this is rarely if ever the case with regular vaping/use, but in the event of a short this can certainly happen. i would use another battery, and seriously consider throwing that one out. better safe than sorry, but if you have a meter you can monitor the voltage before and after charges and see how they fare as well as how long the battery keeps the charged voltage without use. you can inspect it visually for swelling or changes in the shrink wrap, but if unsure then the safest bet is to discard it.
as a recommendation though, for the 18650 cell, you can get the same performance for a longer period of time with the LiCo protected AW 18650. the reason we use the LiMN batteries is that most cells, pretty much everything smaller than the AW17670, don't have the drain capacity to sustain the amp draw from the atomizer, particularly low resistance atomizers. we get voltage sag, the runtimes decrease, and undue strain placed on the cell poses potential risk and shortens the lifespan. in most protected 18650 configurations though, and certainly with the AW18650, the drain rate is sufficient for any atomizer we throw at it. couple that with the over-discharge protection, and the increased runtime, and you have a battery that will you can vape with longer at the same level of performance, and a cell that would most likely survive a similar incident in the future.
as a recommendation though, for the 18650 cell, you can get the same performance for a longer period of time with the LiCo protected AW 18650. the reason we use the LiMN batteries is that most cells, pretty much everything smaller than the AW17670, don't have the drain capacity to sustain the amp draw from the atomizer, particularly low resistance atomizers. we get voltage sag, the runtimes decrease, and undue strain placed on the cell poses potential risk and shortens the lifespan. in most protected 18650 configurations though, and certainly with the AW18650, the drain rate is sufficient for any atomizer we throw at it. couple that with the over-discharge protection, and the increased runtime, and you have a battery that will you can vape with longer at the same level of performance, and a cell that would most likely survive a similar incident in the future.
That was your problem, your Battery should be fine I think, keep an eye on it and make sure its not getting hot again, if not you should be OK, put it on the charger and look for a full charge, if you get a full charge you should be good to go, sounds like your spring was banding and grounding then it was running hot to the button which it would do.
Follow up. That has resolved my issue...the spring was the culprit. I'll monitor my battery and see how it holds up. My whole reason for LIMN chemistry was that it won't explode. I fear LiCo batteries since if anything ever did happen it would go very very badly. Has this changed with AW battery technology or is this still the case?
Your problem wasnt the spring Zai. It was the atomizer and maybe the batteries. I will explain: If the spring bents and touch the inside walls of GG then atomizer will start work. No short will happen. But spring is almost impossible to touch the inside walls even if it gets bended.
I am sure that you solved the problem by changing atomizer or screwing the telescope not so hard.
lso check if the plastic around your battery/batteries is ok
I am sure that you solved the problem by changing atomizer or screwing the telescope not so hard.
lso check if the plastic around your battery/batteries is ok
if spring touch the tube then atomizer will start working, nothing else Zai. I think that you rethread the atomizer, you didnt push it hard so the silicom rubber didnt get corrupt this time. But this atomizer will cause you problems soon again.
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