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swedishfish

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On that note...where are the classifieds here? I know I've been there before while browsing but can't seem to find it now.

It's probably staring me right in the face.

Classifieds and swaps

Vapor Station does make high nicotine fruit flavors. I haven't tried them because I'm happy with my juice and I think they're shipping is high for ordering 1 small sample. But I'm cheap.

Do an advanced Seach for Vapor Station and click the box for "Title Only" and read reviews. That's how I found the juice I liked. And I agree with you about FSUSA. It's probably me, because almost everyone loves them but I just didn't care for their juice. Or Liberty Flights juice, or V4L. But I buy other things from them almost weekly it seems and love them for everything else.
 

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............Awesome. What do you use? The box mod?

I am definitely going to check this out. I'm really interested in the box mods. I'm not sure why really...I have no idea the pros/cons. I guess they just look cool.

I was looking at Liberty Flights earlier and thought about trying out some of the cheap juice. Way back when I first started researching e-cigs, I read somewhere to NEVER buy China-made juice because the quality is horrible, blah blah. And I guess that just stuck with me. While it is subjective...I'll go with the majority vote most of the time.

Thanks!!..............

I have one of Ken's 5 volt box mods as my back-up, now that I moved up to the variable volt Darwin. But I used it as my main PV for about 6 months. Make sure you get the 5 volt one, not the 3.7 volt model. This will much better satisfy your need for the "inhaled feel" of an analog. Chain vaping, the batteries should give you a solid 5-6 hours on a charge. And paying $3.75 for batteries instead of $15-$20 is a real plus. In addition, these batteries can be recharge about 2000 times unlike the tube shaped batteries that have about a 200 recharge limit.

I hate to see people "bash" eliquid from China. The Chinese started the whole vaping business back in 2003 and those of us who started vaping in 2008-2009 only had Chinese liquid to vape. There is NOTHING wrong with their liquid. It's all a matter of personal preference (taste). If you like a very smooth, light tobacco flavor, then I would suggest Liberty Flights PG version "Home Counties" in 24mg strength. There VG RY4 is also good but a little stronger in taste. The best RY4 flavor I have found (and I've tried about 15 different suppliers) is Janty's RY4 - nice smooth tobacco flavor with undertones of carmal and vanilla. They have a hard time keeping it in.
 

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Make sure you get the 5 volt one, not the 3.7 volt model. This will much better satisfy your need for the "inhaled feel" of an analog.

This is completely untrue. It's the wattage (combination of voltage AND resistance) that matters. Use a 1.5ohm atty with a 3.7v device and you're at roughly the same wattage as a 5v device with a 2.5 ohm atty. This is the entire principle that your Darwin works on. It adjusts voltage according to the actual resistance of your atty to meet the wattage you set.
 

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I read your entire post and I do believe I can help you out relatively cheaply. I seen no mention of you trying out a LR atomizer. Low Resistance atomizers should really help you out but you can only use them on your EGO. Your ego without a LR Atty is nothing more than your 510s with a bigger battery. Nothing more. With the LR atty you will virtually be simulating high voltage vaping without the need to go out and spend a few hundred on a nice mod.

JUICE JUICE JUICE> Everyone know this is a big one. Sometimes you might even find one that is great and then a day later you might end up hating it. I have tried hundreds of different juices from tons of different vendors. If you could tell me what kind of flavors you are trying to find then I could recommend some good ones to you.

Don't give up you have the support of thousand of ECF members and vaporers around the world.

Im glad to see you are dripping because it is the best way to vape. I see your having some trouble but im sure I can help. If your getting juice in your mouth there are a few things to look at.

Do you use a drip tip. If you do and your getting juice a few things could be happining. Your dripping through the drip tips hole and the juice is getting caught up in there. In this case you have some options. Take the tip off and drip directly on the atty. Another options is o leave the tip on and drip thorugh it but you could give a gentle blow across the tip but without forcing air in to where you will blow the juice out the air intakes of the atty. A quick wisp as you move the tip across your puckered lips will do the trick.

The next thing could be your over dripping. You still have plenty of juice in the atty when your adding more. If this is the case blow it out and start over.
 
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I think you would like the Ego if you had the right juice and definitely a cartomizer. Cartos are the way to start and possibly continue. They are easy. Period. You fill it up and screw it on. And then you fill it up again and screw it back on. I would definitely recommend VaporsEtc.com. They have a sampler pack that includes 5 - 3ml bottles and you pick the flavors. It is only $6.95. I found that their flavors had the appropriate amount of sweetness which is something I strive for in my vaping. I don't particularly like tobacco flavors, but their RY4 is SO smooth. They also have 510 cartos there as well. They are inexpensive and have 15ml and 30ml bottles when you decide you like something. I hate shelling out $12-$15 on a 30ml bottle of juice that I'm not sure of. But, check out the swap thread. I'm sure someone out there would be willing to trade you for something you need! But, again, the ego is a very popular and sought after model, I'm sure you would be happy with it if it had the appropriate equipment! Nonetheless, good luck!
 

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This is completely untrue. It's the wattage (combination of voltage AND resistance) that matters. Use a 1.5ohm atty with a 3.7v device and you're at roughly the same wattage as a 5v device with a 2.5 ohm atty. This is the entire principle that your Darwin works on. It adjusts voltage according to the actual resistance of your atty to meet the wattage you set.

No, it is completely true. I'm not disagreeing that using a LR atty on a 3.7v PV will come close to simulating vaping at 5 volts, but for how long and how consistently? In my experience and a number of others who I have talked to, the LR's just don't hold up that well and degrade in effectiveness quickly. Why mess with or have to limit yourself to only LR attys to get a better throat hit on a 3.7v PV? With a good 5 volt PV or better yet, a variable volt PV, you are not limited to LR attys. You can use many different attys and carto and with adapters many different size attys and cartos. I agree with you on the superiority of the Darwin and your point about wattage. I did not want to overwhelm the OP with wattage, resistence, etc. I just don't want to be limited to LR attys. I vape 801/BE112 attys and cartos. They hold up much, much longer than many other attys. But try finding a good selection of LR 801 or BE112 attys or cartos.
 
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If the nicotine level is an issue for you, take a look at Tasty Vapor, as you can get up to 48 mg/ ml and mix it down to whatever level you find that you need with the doublers that they sell. Also, if TH is an issue, a lot of people have reported that adding a few drops of alcohol to their liquid helps. Just don't give up, it's worth the effort! Good luck and happy vaping.
 

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No, it is completely true. I'm not disagreeing that using a LR atty on a 3.7v PV will come close to simulating vaping at 5 volts, but for how long and how consistently? In my experience and a number of others who I have talked to, the LR's just don't hold up that well and degrade in effectiveness quickly. Why mess with or have to limit yourself to only LR attys to get a better throat hit on a 3.7v PV? With a good 5 volt PV or better yet, a variable volt PV, you are not limited to LR attys. You can use many different attys and carto and with adapters many different size attys and cartos. I agree with you on the superiority of the Darwin and your point about wattage. I did not want to overwhelm the OP with wattage, resistence, etc. I just don't want to be limited to LR attys. I vape 801/BE112 attys and cartos. They hold up much, much longer than many other attys. But try finding a good selection of LR 801 or BE112 attys or cartos.

So it's true for your particular situation wanting to use a variety of attys. Why limit to LR attys? First off, I don't feel limited to LR attys. I won't use anything but a Cisco 1.5 ohm LR. I've tried many attys with several fixed voltage and VV devices and these are hands down my favorites. But...battery life for one. I only change batteries once a day and that's with a 600 mAh IMR. Also, using IMR batteries, I get a consistent hit until the battery is nearly dead. Further, my experience with LR attys does not match up to what you and others have said. My LR's last for a month with no degredation in performance and no cleaning. If I clean them regularly, I can expect to get several months out of them. I usually end up burning attys out in my pocket from accidental activation long before they die of natural causes anyway.

But that wasn't my point.

Your statement was that the 5v device is better for simulating the feel of an analog. You're perpetuating the myth that voltage is what makes the difference when it's the wattage that determines the throat hit and heat generated by the atty. She could order 4.5 ohm HV attys and be getting just over half the wattage. That's right around what a 3.7v device with a 2.5ohm (standard) atty puts out.

This is why I linked the OP to my blog post which explains high powered vaping in lay person's terms. I find it better to provide all the information and let the OP decide what they are ready to take in.
 

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Cool! I'm definitely going to order some cartomizers. We have talked about just ordering another Ego battery also. That may be what we do for now with the fundage shortage we have going on. :p

We tend to like the fruity flavored juices. Watermelon has been our favorite to date. We also tried the Bakery flavors with Kick Bass and liked those. While I don't want to go crazy and vape bacon..or waffles..or egg salad (yeah, really saw egg salad...oh AND tuna!!)..we mutually agree we don't want any tobacco stuff. And we're not really menthol fans.

I'm gonna go check out Nhalers now, though. I'll see what flavors they have that we might be interested in!

Thanks!!


If you like bakery and fruits...take a look at mrs t's bakery for juices...to me their flavors are right on the button...
 

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It's ok...I don't really like Kick Bass. Love the flavor and quality...don't care for the nic content apparently. Their highest nic content does nothing for us.

I will have to say that that is really odd. I would think that anything over 36 mg nic is starting to cross over the dangerous-to-your-body line. You CAN OD on nicotine. I'd be really careful about vaping anything more than 36. I was a 1 1/2 pack a day full flavor menthol smoker and 36 mg gave me a pretty good nicotine buzz. Anything more and I'd probably be laid out on the floor lol. I'm betting it's got to be something else than the nic content that you're not getting. I haven't used enough versions of e-cigs or liquids, pg/vg combos to reccomend anything though.
 

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So it's true for your particular situation wanting to use a variety of attys. Why limit to LR attys? First off, I don't feel limited to LR attys. I won't use anything but a Cisco 1.5 ohm LR. I've tried many attys with several fixed voltage and VV devices and these are hands down my favorites. But...battery life for one. I only change batteries once a day and that's with a 600 mAh IMR. Also, using IMR batteries, I get a consistent hit until the battery is nearly dead. Further, my experience with LR attys does not match up to what you and others have said. My LR's last for a month with no degredation in performance and no cleaning. If I clean them regularly, I can expect to get several months out of them. I usually end up burning attys out in my pocket from accidental activation long before they die of natural causes anyway.

But that wasn't my point.

Your statement was that the 5v device is better for simulating the feel of an analog. You're perpetuating the myth that voltage is what makes the difference when it's the wattage that determines the throat hit and heat generated by the atty. She could order 4.5 ohm HV attys and be getting just over half the wattage. That's right around what a 3.7v device with a 2.5ohm (standard) atty puts out.

This is why I linked the OP to my blog post which explains high powered vaping in lay person's terms. I find it better to provide all the information and let the OP decide what they are ready to take in.

Three points. I think your experience with the longevity and consistency of LR atties is not necessarily the norm. For every one person similar to your situation, I think you might find one who's experience is not the same.

Second, I use the "voltage" term only because it is more easily understood and is widely used to diferentiate one device from another. I understand the relationship to wattage, as my main vaping device is the Darwin.

Third, it is not a "myth" that a good 5 volt device provides a fuller, more pronounced throat hit and more consistent vape than a 3.7 volt device using standard atties which was my point.
 

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It sounds like a battery problem along with a weak e-juice problem to me. You will like the bigger batteries and cartomizers. I use the VaporKing KR808D-1 XL manuals and they last for hours. I also use an Igo and I like it, but it takes some getting used to.

I buy these e-juices specifically because they have a lot of flavor:

From Vapor4Life in 24mg (they do sell 36mg): Wow Coffee, Wow Peppermint, Wow Black Licorice, Wow Pancake. All have a lot of taste and fabulous throat hit. They have lots of different fruit flavors, too. I don't vape them much anymore but I used to love the Mango, Grape and Banana flavors. Now I pretty much stick to coffee as my all-day vape.

From MyFreedomSmokes, again in 24mg and with the Extra-flavor option: Blackberry, Keoke Coffee, English Toffee. Like those above, all have a very strong throat hit and wonderful flavor.

I have tried some of the flavors and vendors I see recommended so often here and they're just too weak and flavorless for my palate. I've probably ruined my taste buds over the course of 37+ years of smoking - I can't taste the weak stuff!
 

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I will have to say that that is really odd. I would think that anything over 36 mg nic is starting to cross over the dangerous-to-your-body line. You CAN OD on nicotine. I'd be really careful about vaping anything more than 36. I was a 1 1/2 pack a day full flavor menthol smoker and 36 mg gave me a pretty good nicotine buzz. Anything more and I'd probably be laid out on the floor lol. I'm betting it's got to be something else than the nic content that you're not getting. I haven't used enough versions of e-cigs or liquids, pg/vg combos to reccomend anything though.

Eh, I don't know man. I tried 36mg from DFW Vapor and felt satisfied...didn't have a craving at ALL. It was just really harsh and my husband couldn't vape it.

Like I said...love the quality and flavor of KBV. I just wonder if the nic content is off. Not downing on them at all, though.

I know you can OD on nicotine...but we came from a few years of smoking cigarillos. I haven't smoked a cigarette in years.
 
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