Need tips on what to buy

[Way2Gone]

I have a ton of 0 mg juice that I would like to make 3 mg Nicotine, but I don’t know where to buy nicotine, what type I need or how to mix it properly. Some of you are going to say search the forums but all the old threads I’m not interested in as things change everyday with products and techniques. That’s why I am starting a fresh post and need help in which would be greatly appreciated.

So that’s one thing I need help with.

Second thing I need help with is deciding which dripping atomizer would you recommend. I’m looking for something that’s came out recently that has good reviews. I don’t have much time to search for reviews so maybe you know what’s hot and what’s not? I know it all comes down to personal opinion and I would like your opinion please. (RDA Specifically is what I’m interested in.)

Thank you.

 

[Izan]

Hi Way,
If you plan to make a hobby of adding nicotine to 0mg juice, I would suggest you get some 100mg/ml nicotine and use a juice calculator. Many suppliers sell very reasonable sample size bottles so you can discover which brands you like best and if you prefer a VG base, a PG base or a mix to match your current juice ratios. Salt based nicotine may also be an option for you to explore.
I am a huge fan of Chemnovatic nicotine available here: Vapers Tek

Another option is to use "dosed" portions of nicotine to spike your 0 mg juice: Concentrated Nicotine Solution Packets | Liquid Nicotine
They have a handy on line calculator that you may find useful.

As for the RDA, I suggest something as similar to your current "tank" set up as possible. If you MTL, a MTL RDA will give you a more accurate idea of how your juice will taste in your MTL tank. Same goes for DTL tanks.
If you vape on mesh, look at getting a mesh RDA. If you vape on a single coil, get a single coil RDA. Dual coils, dual coil RDA.

What is your RDA budget and are you planing to shop from a US vendor or is a China sourced product also an option? You will need to buy wire or mesh and wick plus a few simple tools to get your new RDA up and running.

What are you using now?

HTH
I

 

[Letitia]

I like LNW, Liquid Nicotine Wholesaler, freebase and salts. Code ELRECIPES for 15% off.

 

[bombastinator]

Mtl or dL?

 

[Zaryk]

I have a ton of 0 mg juice that I would like to make 3 mg Nicotine, but I don’t know where to buy nicotine, what type I need or how to mix it properly. Some of you are going to say search the forums but all the old threads I’m not interested in as things change everyday with products and techniques. That’s why I am starting a fresh post and need help in which would be greatly appreciated.

So that’s one thing I need help with.

Second thing I need help with is deciding which dripping atomizer would you recommend. I’m looking for something that’s came out recently that has good reviews. I don’t have much time to search for reviews so maybe you know what’s hot and what’s not? I know it all comes down to personal opinion and I would like your opinion please. (RDA Specifically is what I’m interested in.)

Thank you.

If you are looking for ease of use for your nicotine additive, the link izan posted to the concentrated nic solution is your easiest solution. It is pre mixed for specific nic levels so you just add it without the need to calculate and measure.

I don't know how you like to vape, so I can't really make any decent recommendations. Do you like direct lung, restricted direct lung or MTL? Single coil or dual coil? Clouds or flavor? The more info we have, the better we can narrow it down and recommend products that you would like.

 

[MyMagicMist]

Another option is to use "dosed" portions of nicotine to spike your 0 mg juice: Concentrated Nicotine Solution Packets | Liquid Nicotine
They have a handy on line calculator that you may find useful.

I can appreciate you suggesting this method. I'm sure for small batches it works out economically. That noted I just sat and did some calculations.

$13.35 / 5 = $2.67 This means each unit is $2.67.

Now, let me say I want to do a 1 L batch of 18 mg nicotine base juice in max VG. Even using the 40% packs I still need to use 24 of them.

24 * $2.67 = $64.08 That's $64.08 for only the nicotine.

Now, let me say I get my VG for $7.00.

$64.08 + $7.00 = $71.08 That's my total cost for 1 L of base juice using your suggested method.

I am not going to say my method is better, worse, or in between. For myself it works out more economically. I simply go to Heartland Vapes and pick up a 1 L jug of nicotine solution for about $30.00.

Granted at this point I'm not too sure of what the taxes on the nicotine will be exactly. I do not believe anyone actually is too aware of what the rate of taxation is going to be as of yet. If I'm in error my apologies.

Well, I just desired posting to present a different possible method.

Another possible method is buying what is called 100% nicotine in solution and using it by simple formula to get the strength you need for your target batch.

(Target * Strength ) / 100% = Nicotine required

Let me present a quick example.

You've a 120 ml bottle of 0 mg juice and want 3 mg strength juice.

First you multiply your target by your strength: 120 * 3 = 360 .

Next you divide that by your solution strength: 360 / 100 = 3.6.

Third you apply 3.6 ml of your nicotine solution to your target 120 ml bottle of 0 mg juice.

There are plenty of reputable vendors online offering 100% nicotine. What you need to realize is that it is not actual 100% nicotine but rather 10% nicotine in solution so as to be safe for use by laymen. Actual pure nicotine would be 1,000% nicotine. At least this is how it got explained to me many moon ago.

The formula above works no matter your choice of strengths, target sizes.

(Target * Strength) / Concentrate = Nicotine Concentrate required to go into Target == Finished Product at your desired Strength.

You might want to look up Heartland Vapes, Wizard labs and some other nicotine vendors. I think Ecig Express still sells nicotine solution as well. My Vapor Store sells it. I could be all day running down a listing but won't. What you may need to contend with is to be sure you look for what is now called "free base" nicotine.

 

[Zaryk]

I can appreciate you suggesting this method. I'm sure for small batches it works out economically. That noted I just sat and did some calculations.

$13.35 / 5 = $2.67 This means each unit is $2.67.

Now, let me say I want to do a 1 L batch of 18 mg nicotine base juice in max VG. Even using the 40% packs I still need to use 24 of them.

24 * $2.67 = $64.08 That's $64.08 for only the nicotine.

Now, let me say I get my VG for $7.00.

$64.08 + $7.00 = $71.08 That's my total cost for 1 L of base juice using your suggested method.

I am not going to say my method is better, worse, or in between. For myself it works out more economically. I simply go to Heartland Vapes and pick up a 1 L jug of nicotine solution for about $30.00.

Granted at this point I'm not too sure of what the taxes on the nicotine will be exactly. I do not believe anyone actually is too aware of what the rate of taxation is going to be as of yet. If I'm in error my apologies.

Well, I just desired posting to present a different possible method.

If he just need to do a couple bottles, then it is a viable option. He wouldn't need to invest in measuring tools, or figuring out the mixing ratios. He could just dump the nic in and go. 1L of nic would be overkill if he only needs to add it to a few bottles. But if he plans to use it for a whole lot of juice, it would be wise to buy bulk, get the mixing tools, and learn how to add nic base properly.

 

[Letitia]

If he just need to do a couple bottles, then it is a viable option. He wouldn't need to invest in measuring tools, or figuring out the mixing ratios. He could just dump the nic in and go. 1L of nic would be overkill if he only needs to add it to a few bottles. But if he plans to use it for a whole lot of juice, it would be wise to buy bulk, get the mixing tools, and learn how to add nic base properly.

He's in the US. Makes much more sense at this point to invest in liters imo. If he sticks with 0mg all he needs is nic and one syringe.

 

[sonicbomb]

It's not new, but I contest that the Velocity Mini is the best RDA ever made.
@Way2Gone the fact is that you will probably have to buy and try a number of RDAs before you find one that makes you happy. They are all slightly different and so are people.

 

[JCinFLA]

I have a ton of 0 mg juice that I would like to make 3 mg Nicotine, but I don’t know where to buy nicotine, what type I need or how to mix it properly.

Well, depending on what you mean by "a ton of 0mg juice", various sizes of 100mg/mL nic base would be cost efficient for you. For each 100mL of your 0mg juice that you want to turn into 3mg juice...you'll need to add 3mL of 100mg/mL nic base. So, only you know an amount that would be best for you to buy. It's easy to figure out how much of the nic base to add to each bottle you have, depending on bottle size. You can measure out the nic base with an inexpensive syringe with a blunt needle tip on the end of it. Most nic base sellers have those for sale on their websites, too.

100mL of 0mg eliquid - add 3mL of 100mg/mL nic base
50mL of 0 mg eliquid - add 1.5mL of 100mg/mL nic base
30mL of 0mg eliquid - add .9mL of 100mg/mL nic base

I'd recommend either Liquid Nicotine Wholesalers or Heartland Vapes nicotine base. They're both, IMO, very good nic base and they aren't expensive at all. I'd buy the nic base that's in a 50PG/50VG mix or a 100% PG base...to make it easier for you to use. For no more than you're going to add to your existing eliquid, neither one will have a noticeable effect on your final PG/VG ratio, IMO.

 

[MyMagicMist]

1L of nic would be overkill if he only needs to add it to a few bottles. But if he plans to use it for a whole lot of juice, it would be wise to buy bulk, get the mixing tools, and learn how to add nic base properly.

Thought I made that explicitly clear in the post. Apologies if I did not. Glad you clarified it for me.

Well, depending on what you mean by "a ton of 0mg juice",

I too noted that and did apparently stumble on how to best word my methodology, as was pointed out so kindly above.

If he sticks with 0mg all he needs is nic and one syringe.

"Well, how about that? Leave it to a lady to figure something simple out." That was actually rather brilliant too. Not writing that with any sarcasm at all.

I should probably go back underground.

 

[Zaryk]

He's in the US. Makes much more sense at this point to invest in liters imo. If he sticks with 0mg all he needs is nic and one syringe.

If this is going to be a long term thing, I fully agree. But without more info we can only guess at his overall plans with it, so I thought it was worth while to outline the options available.

 

[Way2Gone]

Ok sorry for late reply, I wish I could have replied sooner to all of the help I have received. I have 42 - (30ML) bottles of 0 mg juice. Granted I bought in bulk and have a lot of flavors I might not even try because it’s a flavor mix. But From what I’m reading in the previous posts if I was to guess the best way for me would go the 100 mg/ ML route because out of those 42 bottles I will probably try most of them just to test the flavor(maybe I will like it maybe I won’t, but, worth a shot). So say I only use 30 bottles, to save money I should definitely probably go with the 100 mg / ML right?

So if you think I should get the 100 mg / mL then could you please just tell me where the “cheapest” place to get it. I still want a quality nicotine of course, so if the price makes a quality difference I might be willing to spend more for the better stuff. I know I do want freebase and not salt nicotine. What I don’t know is what I would like more a phone based nicotine or a VG based nicotine. I’m stuck on that part. Maybe the 50pg / 50 vg would be the best route to go?

as far as RDA’s I’m looking for something that can be adjusted from at least restricted lung to direct lung. I MTL from time to time but not enough to persuade my choice of my next RDA purchase.

I hope I gave you enough information to give me some more info. Please know I really can’t thank you enough for your time spent giving me tips and opinions. Very very much appreciated truly.

 

[Izan]

Take a look at the : Wotofo Recurve RDA
They also make a dual coil version if that is your thing.

You are correct some 100mg/ml will be your best bet.
As noted by @JCinFLA , you will be adding less than 1 ml to a 30 ml bottle to reach 3mg/ml, and you are probably best served buying your nicotine with a 50/50 ratio.
Since you need less than 50ml of 100mg/ml to spike every bottle you have, don't try to save a few pennies. Buy the cleanest best, but perhaps not the most expensive, nicotine you can afford.
As I mentioned earlier, the base sold by Vapers Tek has a great worldwide reputation.

HTH
I

 

[Way2Gone]

Take a look at the : Wotofo Recurve RDA
They also make a dual coil version if that is your thing.

You are correct some 100mg/ml will be your best bet.
As noted by @JCinFLA , you will be adding less than 1 ml to a 30 ml bottle to reach 3mg/ml, and you are probably best served buying your nicotine with a 50/50 ratio.
Since you need less than 50ml of 100mg/ml to spike every bottle you have, don't try to save a few pennies. Buy the cleanest best, but perhaps not the most expensive, nicotine you can afford.
As I mentioned earlier, the base sold by Vapers Tek has a great worldwide reputation.

HTH
I

I would buy the premium nicotine at vaper tek but they only have 100 Percent pg based nicotine or 100 percent vg based nicotine. There isn’t a 50/50 blend option that I saw. I clicked on the “premium nicotine”.

and also if others are wondering I think I would like to try a dual coil mesh setup. I only have mesh in all my tanks right now and I don’t think going back to round wire will be ok for me. Even though I’m not picky, I can deal with just about anything. But preferably speaking I think I’ll stick with mesh.

 

[Zaryk]

I would buy the premium nicotine at vaper tek but they only have 100 Percent pg based nicotine or 100 percent vg based nicotine. There isn’t a 50/50 blend option that I saw. I clicked on the “premium nicotine”.

and also if others are wondering I think I would like to try a dual coil mesh setup. I only have mesh in all my tanks right now and I don’t think going back to round wire will be ok for me. Even though I’m not picky, I can deal with just about anything. But preferably speaking I think I’ll stick with mesh.

If mesh is your thing, the Profile RDA is very hard to beat.

 

[bombastinator]

Ok sorry for late reply, I wish I could have replied sooner to all of the help I have received. I have 42 - (30ML) bottles of 0 mg juice. Granted I bought in bulk and have a lot of flavors I might not even try because it’s a flavor mix. But From what I’m reading in the previous posts if I was to guess the best way for me would go the 100 mg/ ML route because out of those 42 bottles I will probably try most of them just to test the flavor(maybe I will like it maybe I won’t, but, worth a shot). So say I only use 30 bottles, to save money I should definitely probably go with the 100 mg / ML right?

So if you think I should get the 100 mg / mL then could you please just tell me where the “cheapest” place to get it. I still want a quality nicotine of course, so if the price makes a quality difference I might be willing to spend more for the better stuff. I know I do want freebase and not salt nicotine. What I don’t know is what I would like more a phone based nicotine or a VG based nicotine. I’m stuck on that part. Maybe the 50pg / 50 vg would be the best route to go?

as far as RDA’s I’m looking for something that can be adjusted from at least restricted lung to direct lung. I MTL from time to time but not enough to persuade my choice of my next RDA purchase.

I hope I gave you enough information to give me some more info. Please know I really can’t thank you enough for your time spent giving me tips and opinions. Very very much appreciated truly.

Cheapest isn’t often best and best isn’t always cheap. Part of the issue is nic degrades so you want to get it made recently, stored cold, and shipped fast so you can get it into cold storage. The result is it varies by area. If you get really high grade pure nic but it takes 6 weeks to ship it’s pointless.

 

[vaper1960]

I'm certainly no expert on RDAs but as mentioned, Recurve (and Rebirth also) and Profile (for low watt mesh option) but... this is such a steal, try it too (can make RDA or RDTA) and I love the "velocity" style deck:
https://vapenw.com/collections/aspire/products/aspire-quad-flex-survival-kit

 

[bombastinator]

I'm certainly no expert on RDAs but as mentioned, Recurve (and Rebirth also) and Profile (for low watt mesh option) but... this is such a steal, try it too (can make RDA or RDTA) and I love the "velocity" style deck:
Aspire Quad Flex Survival Kit

No pix.

 

[vaper1960]

Bomb, if you mean the link, it seems to be very slow loading.