I've had it backwards. With a dripper it is very easy to make a heat assisted Net that betters some of the commercial stuff. Now I can't drip at work so I need a fruit juice collection. These are harder to get right, the commercial stuff is just better. I think there is a shortage of good fruit and punch recipe's in general. I posted one that pretty decent but basically what I'm saying is that natural tobaccos for rda's are easier for me to formulate than fruit ejuice for clearomizer ADV's.