New and have a plenty of new questions!

[MyLibary]

First of all, thanks for your wonderful forum which help everyone!

Im new here and i have reached this forum in order to check out EGO series safety.
Im not a smoker but i would like to establish a big company in my country for electonic cigarette based on EGO series.

I have heard alot of times about exploding cigarettes and the known story of guy from USA which all his face blowed up.

Im not sure which cigarette he have used so i tried to search : "ego cigarette exploded" and found here some story about EGO that exploded while was charged.


The though that my product will get exploded in someone face terrify me and im ready to invest some money in order to make my company safe for my customers.

There is a long way till iwi ll be able to manage company like this since i need to know the cigarette structure and how its work perfectly, to be able to diagnose problems and solve it on time.

I have read this thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...61-exploding-mods-update-february-2012-a.html

Here my questions:

1. Advanced Personal Vaporizers- What that exactly mean? and why its related to the explosition?
Quote from the thread:
"This unfortunately shows that the situation is not improving, probably simply because the number of APVs being sold is increasing dramatically."

2. metal tubemods- What is actualy tubemods? tried to search and dont know what is the meaning.
Is that mean that the cigarette is made of metal materiels instead of plastic?

3. two batteries in series- Two batteries in series mean there is two batteries in the "Battery home" of the cigarette? is EGO series has 2 batteies in series or 1?

4. Full electronic control metal tube vs Only mechanical and basic electric metal tubemods- What is "Full electronic control metal tube" and what the differences from only mechanical ?

5. meltdown and explosion- How to know if the EGO battries are meltdown or explosion? which iguess meltdown is better cause its do not cause injury in case of technical problem with battery.

6. Gas vents- What actualy output these gases? is that the gas of the flavours? if not where these gas come from?



Im not expecting to get "personal" answer for each question, you can forward me to any thread which explain what i have asked.

Thanks alot for your time and your help!

Marco.

 

[DaveP]

First of all, thanks for your wonderful forum which help everyone!

Im new here and i have reached this forum in order to check out EGO series safety.
Im not a smoker but i would like to establish a big company in my country for electonic cigarette based on EGO series.

I have heard alot of times about exploding cigarettes and the known story of guy from USA which all his face blowed up.

Stacked mods, which have been responsible for most of the few explosions that have occurred are similar to a flashlight where you install two batteries connected in series. Series connection means that the batteries are connected negative (-) to positive (+) in an ecig. If the batteries are unequally charged, one can discharge into the other rapidly. Lithium ion batteries like a nice slow charge, not rapid. Heat results and the case of the battery becomes pressurized. There are vents on Li-ion batteries that are designed to release pressure. If the pressure rises too fast and the case of the device has no vent or a vent that is too small, an explosion can occur.

Im not sure which cigarette he have used so i tried to search : "ego cigarette exploded" and found here some story about EGO that exploded while was charged.

Those are usually associated with a charger failure or an internal electronics failure that presents a short to the charger.


The though that my product will get exploded in someone face terrify me and im ready to invest some money in order to make my company safe for my customers.

There is a long way till iwi ll be able to manage company like this since i need to know the cigarette structure and how its work perfectly, to be able to diagnose problems and solve it on time.

Concentrate on single battery devices and instruct your customers in the proper use and charging of ecigs and batteries. IMR technology is inherently safer than Li-ion. IMR batteries fail in a high heat mode, but generally don't vent or explode.

Make sure that the device you sell that uses replaceable batteries has a good vent and the customers know to use a battery that you recommend and that you have sufficient technical data to support your recommendation. This will require some study on your part and competent legal assistance.

I have read this thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...61-exploding-mods-update-february-2012-a.html

Here my questions:

1. Advanced Personal Vaporizers- What that exactly mean? and why its related to the explosition?
Quote from the thread:
"This unfortunately shows that the situation is not improving, probably simply because the number of APVs being sold is increasing dramatically."

Education is key. People are too trusting when they buy advanced personal vaporizers. They expect the vendor to tell them everything they need to know. That doesn't always happen.

2. metal tubemods- What is actualy tubemods? tried to search and dont know what is the meaning.
Is that mean that the cigarette is made of metal materiels instead of plastic?

A tube mod is a tube containing a battery or batteries, a switch and/or electronics that control it, and a threaded end that accepts an atomizer. Construction is similar to a flashlight, but with an atomizer instead of an LED or bulb, and electronic controls.

3. two batteries in series- Two batteries in series mean there is two batteries in the "Battery home" of the cigarette? is EGO series has 2 batteies in series or 1?

An eGo is a single, enclosed battery in a tube. It's not a mod per se, but a self contained battery complete with electronics and a thread for a particular atomizer. When it dies, you throw it away and buy a new battery. A tube mod has replaceable batteries. The safest tube mod is a single battery mod. Be aware that some batteries are protected and other aren't. Some batteries are also safer than others. IMR batteries are safer than Li-ion batteries.

4. Full electronic control metal tube vs Only mechanical and basic electric metal tubemods- What is "Full electronic control metal tube" and what the differences from only mechanical ?

See above. Also, a mechanical mod has only wiring, a case, and a switch with a connector for an atomizer. An electronic mod has control circuitry that provides various features.

5. meltdown and explosion- How to know if the EGO battries are meltdown or explosion? which iguess meltdown is better cause its do not cause injury in case of technical problem with battery.

IMR batteries melt down with high heat, but don't explode. Lithium ion batteries heat up so quickly that the resultant pressure can cause an explosion if it isn't relieved by a venting system. Li-ion batteries can also swell and block the tube and make the situational pressure greater. When that happens, the atomizer end can explode in your face. A tube mod should be sufficiently larger than the battery to prevent swelling from creating that situation.

6. Gas vents- What actualy output these gases? is that the gas of the flavours? if not where these gas come from?

The gases come from pressurized hot chemicals inside the battery itself when it fails.

Im not expecting to get "personal" answer for each question, you can forward me to any thread which explain what i have asked.

Thanks alot for your time and your help!

Marco.

You have a lot to learn about ecigs. ECF is a good place to start. Use the search feature (above right) to do keyword searches for what you are looking for. You will find many conversations with knowledgeable contributors.

It also helps to understand the product if you actually use it. You don't have to vape nicotine to use the product. There are various levels of nicotine available, including zero nic, just flavors.

 

[MyLibary]

You have a lot to learn about ecigs. ECF is a good place to start. Use the search feature (above right) to do keyword searches for what you are looking for. You will find many conversations with knowledgeable contributors.

It also helps to understand the product if you actually use it. You don't have to vape nicotine to use the product. There are various levels of nicotine available, including zero nic, just flavors.

Lovely help, dont have much time right now to read this, will read when i will be back home.

Thanks alot for your kindness and if i will have more questions i will keep posting here aside with reading here.

Thanks alot!

 

[MyLibary]

May i ask if there is any way to feel that your battery going to explode?

For example i guide my customers to feel the battery, if they feel the battery is hot they should stop smoking and give it to me.

When the battery expllode its take some time or its exploded in few seconds from the second it became hot?

 

[DaveP]

There's usually not much warning when that happens. A few seconds, hopefully enough time to toss it away, is all you get. So far, the ones that have exploded have been dual battery mods. There are some stories about eGo class batteries popping off in the charger and sending parts across the room. That's typically blamed on chargers failing to shut off when charging is through.

BTW, you might want to refer to ecig use as vaping. People get ecigs confused with being the same as cigarettes and we don't want the two to be compared unfairly.

 

[MyLibary]

Are you sure EGO cigarettes is only 1 cell?

In the DHL order form i got this:

"Lithium ion batteries not restricted as per PI967, containing no more than 2 batteries and 4 cells"

Or its just a setence to help me in custom process?

 

[Renzuli]

Welcome , The Ego is only one cell , but they havr exploded on several people , while charging them . There are Ego clones out there that are just as good , but are cheaper . But tube type mods , is another way to go . Check out Buzz , provari's , silver bullets , and the list goes on and on . The vent hole is for outgassing , if the battery lets go , otherwise , it would act like a little grenade . The only warning you might get , that a battery is about to go . It's gets real hot , hotter than they tend to get , just by using them . Some of the heat generated at the coil , is kind of passed down to the battery , sort of like a heat sink . So warm is normal . Hot is not . If it gets real hot while charging , unplug immediately . If you have it in your hand , either drop the battery out , or just get rid of it ( throw it on the ground ) The vents holes are to allow the battery gasses to vent out ( usually at the bottom ) so won't blow up in your face . I personally think , you need to do a lot more research , before attempting to operate some sort of store . And being in Israel , you have a lot of pv's / mods that are made over in your neck of the woods , that might serve you better than the Ego's . But then that's just my opinion . Good luck.

 

[MyLibary]

My cigareete is also EGO clone:
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It is actualy ego cigarette but not by sinca.

I have guide my customers if the battery is hot after charging give it straight to me and stop smoking.
Also guided to do not over charge the battery to prevent explosition.


As we are talking i do not own a comapny and in order to open a "company" i will absolutley create custom parts in order to prevent explosition such as: charger when no need to charge anymore its stop to charge and look after nice ideas to promotoe vents.

Thanks alot for your time and i will absolutley will keep using this forum to learn much more.