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Yes I agree that the extra money into e cig will help the cause. But the cigarette companies are the ones making the cancer sticks, still putting in all the crap that isn't good for us. If they wanted to really help why haven't they changed anything in the last how ever many years, instead of acquiring companies that were really trying. If you look at their annual report last year, they lost in the last quarter which is when they acquired blu, I'm wondering if they thought e cigs could be a new trend and up their loss for the next year.
Yes I agree that the extra money into e cig will help the cause. But the cigarette companies are the ones making the cancer sticks, still putting in all the crap that isn't good for us. If they wanted to really help why haven't they changed anything in the last how ever many years, instead of acquiring companies that were really trying. If you look at their annual report last year, they lost in the last quarter which is when they acquired blu, I'm wondering if they thought e cigs could be a new trend and up their loss for the next year.
meli- thats EXACTLY what I was thinking. thats why i think its cool!
phreaky- hahaha i think i may have to get me and the girl I'm crushing on a couple of these packs
nep- I have to agree with vsummer, while I may not want to buy a big tobacco corp's products because I'd like to "stick it to the man" I still think that big tobacco USING e-cigs to make money, will vicariously drive people to learn more about e-cigs, mods, and all of the great new products coming out. This is why I think I fully support Blu. I commented on a couple of the videos on youtube saying that while I do think the blu 510 is a good quality 510 kit, I hope that Blu, will in the future, embrace the fact that there are a lot of great innovations coming about with larger battery mods with more voltage, new low resistance cartomizers/atomizers (the vaporizing unit) and tanks that can hold 2-3 days worth of juice, the fact that there are thousands of flavors and thousands of juice producers here in the united states, and that there are even variable voltage devices. I said all of this in my comment hoping that a couple people using blu, or people thinking about buying blu, will not only buy that blu, but after buying it, they will hopefully keep my comment in the back of their minds and search out the innovating companies and devices/accessories...
So while I do genuinely like the Blu 510 batts, I hope they will branch out into eGo style bats, mods, new low res cartos, and i hope that they will choose to, rather than monopolize, to educate. I highly doubt they will willingly choose to lose money by educating vaporer prospective customers about the more powerful devices and accessories of other companies, but at the very least, I hope to see them branching out into bigger bat mods and different accessories themselves...
phreaky- hahaha i think i may have to get me and the girl I'm crushing on a couple of these packs
nep- I have to agree with vsummer, while I may not want to buy a big tobacco corp's products because I'd like to "stick it to the man" I still think that big tobacco USING e-cigs to make money, will vicariously drive people to learn more about e-cigs, mods, and all of the great new products coming out. This is why I think I fully support Blu. I commented on a couple of the videos on youtube saying that while I do think the blu 510 is a good quality 510 kit, I hope that Blu, will in the future, embrace the fact that there are a lot of great innovations coming about with larger battery mods with more voltage, new low resistance cartomizers/atomizers (the vaporizing unit) and tanks that can hold 2-3 days worth of juice, the fact that there are thousands of flavors and thousands of juice producers here in the united states, and that there are even variable voltage devices. I said all of this in my comment hoping that a couple people using blu, or people thinking about buying blu, will not only buy that blu, but after buying it, they will hopefully keep my comment in the back of their minds and search out the innovating companies and devices/accessories...
So while I do genuinely like the Blu 510 batts, I hope they will branch out into eGo style bats, mods, new low res cartos, and i hope that they will choose to, rather than monopolize, to educate. I highly doubt they will willingly choose to lose money by educating vaporer prospective customers about the more powerful devices and accessories of other companies, but at the very least, I hope to see them branching out into bigger bat mods and different accessories themselves...
we have to face it... We are the minority. The forum changes 510 cig style device users into hobbyists. But we ARE the minority I think. So obviously Blu and companies like blue are not only going to want to keep their customer's coming back to them, keep them dumb, but we may actually see proprietary products coming out from Big Tobacco corporations. The new Blu cig style devices have a propritary 510 to battery connection that allows the user to just drop it into the charge case to initiate charging rather than screwing it in. whether or not that has any ramifications on what can be used with the battery is unknown to me right now.
I can see how this can benefit the community by giving ecigs more publicity, BUT personally...Lorillard/Blu can go to ____. I can see them scheming in their boardrooms trying to come up with ways to doctor eliquid. Y'all know how much crap they put in to cigs, you think they won't add a little extra to the PG/VG? I'd rather vape clorox. I spent enough of my teen/young adult years paying them to kill me slowly. I won't make that mistake again.
No disrespect to any of you who still smoke ciggs in addition to vaping, I just feel very suspicious and very strongly against this.
No disrespect to any of you who still smoke ciggs in addition to vaping, I just feel very suspicious and very strongly against this.
It's a cool commercial. They will be coming out with more of them soon. As far as the social networking aspect/bluetooth feature, you can turn it off, if you don't wish to participate. It will also alert you whenever you are within so many feet of a Blu retailer. Actually, I think it is a very clever marketing and demographically genius idea, even though I am an old person.
While I really like my Twist and gizmos for at home, I genuinely love my Blu Premium 100 kit the most for work and out and about. The PCC is the bomb. I have 4 batteries I rotate in and out. Cartomizers are my favorite delivery system for flavor and portability and the mini batteries are more natural feeling and stealth. Taste is subjective - I love Blu's flavors, but I also fill my own cartos, too.
I do know that Blu is working on even longer life batteries - the current Premium 100's are 236 maH each. I'm not sure the maH on the PCC but I've never run it completely out of juice within a day, even rotating my batteries through it. I doubt they will ever get into the really big batteries or loose juice stuff. It's just not their thing. I know they are not against loose juice, it's just not what they want to market. Believe me the world of vaping is big enough for both types of vendors. I saw an estimate of over 8 million customers currently using ecigs in the U.S., alone and rising rapidly.
While I really like my Twist and gizmos for at home, I genuinely love my Blu Premium 100 kit the most for work and out and about. The PCC is the bomb. I have 4 batteries I rotate in and out. Cartomizers are my favorite delivery system for flavor and portability and the mini batteries are more natural feeling and stealth. Taste is subjective - I love Blu's flavors, but I also fill my own cartos, too.
I do know that Blu is working on even longer life batteries - the current Premium 100's are 236 maH each. I'm not sure the maH on the PCC but I've never run it completely out of juice within a day, even rotating my batteries through it. I doubt they will ever get into the really big batteries or loose juice stuff. It's just not their thing. I know they are not against loose juice, it's just not what they want to market. Believe me the world of vaping is big enough for both types of vendors. I saw an estimate of over 8 million customers currently using ecigs in the U.S., alone and rising rapidly.
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I can use any standard resistance cartomizer on my Blu cig battery. You don't have to screw it into the PCC - that was a nice improvement over the original system. But, the USB charger that also comes with it is a screw in type charger.
Exactly. I started vaping with disposable Blu e-cigs about 18 months ago. I really enjoyed the tobacco flavor, but the quality of the units was always hit or miss. Some would last and hour or two, some half a day, some didn't work at all straight out of the packaging. Luckily, however, it lead me to other devices, and I've still been off the tobacco cigs ever since. For that much I'm grateful to Blu. Now Lorillard, get your R&D department on improving the friggin' device's main function and forget all the gimmicks.
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Blu is on the right track. They are trying to mainstream vaping. For that I am greatful. All of the bells and whistles can wait. Let's get vaping into the mainstream and then make it social. I am happy to wait for a meet or something like Vapercon to happen so I can meet fellow vapers. We will all be in a comfortable environment with people who share our passion at that point. I do NOT want someone to approach me in a bar or restaurant simply because their PCC pointed out that I am a vaper. There is a time and place for everything and I feel that FB and Twitter blur the line betweeen enough info and too much info.
R&D and quality control could be better with all of these vendors, though. Wouldn't you agree? I see so many failures of all sorts of equipment in this industry. In my first week on these forums alone, I saw 4 different posts of ego type devices venting. I myself have purchased poorly functioning cartomizers, stardusts and other clearos and atomizers that prematurely failed or leaked and a bunch of juice that tasted like crap. In all this time I've only had 2 bad cartomizers from Blu and they happily replaced them for me. I've had no problems (yet) with my Blu batteries, the pack or the chargers and if I do, they are under warranty for a year. I already have one genuine Ego that is going bad and I have hardly used it.
I agree a million percent, Buggs...R&D along with quality control are way behind where they should be. As this industry has begun to mature, I think that will turn around. I remember just 17 months ago getting an eGo T original system and having all kinds of issues with it, which caused me to move to cartos within a week. I've had all kinds of issues with cartos as well, like you mention. Then a few days ago, on a whim, I picked up a 510T atty and pack of tanks just to see where that design had evolved to and I was amazed. While the little tank only holds about .5 ml, the damn thing produces as much flavor and vapor as dripping (which is what the idea behind the eGo T design was all about but never achieved with the original). I studied the new 510T atty and an old eGo T atty I still have in a drawer and saw a couple of differences right off the bat. The spike plate air passage cutouts are larger and the spike is also much larger in diameter. So far the little bugger hasn't leaked or misbehaved in any way. In fact, I just did a 3 second toot of a PG juice that produced enough vapor to totally obscure my monitor screen.
Here's hoping the improvements keep on coming!
Here's hoping the improvements keep on coming!
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I am all for improvements as well. But let's keep it to the actual function of the product. More vapor, less leaking, less dry hits, better flavor, etc. I do not want a self-aware PV that points out who is vaping near me, where I can buy my next bottle of juice or where Grimmgreen is currently located. I just want great flavor and great vapor.
EDIT - I love and respect Nick. I was simply using that as an example.
EDIT - I love and respect Nick. I was simply using that as an example.
I hope so, Jazzbo. I had such bad luck with the ego c attys and tanks. I loved them, when they worked. But cripes, at about $25 for 5 atty's when 2 of the 5 are bad right off the bat, it ticks me off and none of them lasted a whole week. I gave up after the first refill pack of atty's. My friend still uses them and has the same issue with the atty's.
I see Janty is marketing an Ego X tank system now in Europe. It has a cleanable/replaceable coil. It looks like the tanks may be improved, as well.
I see Janty is marketing an Ego X tank system now in Europe. It has a cleanable/replaceable coil. It looks like the tanks may be improved, as well.
It IS kinda creepy in a way, innit? New wave stalking...
LOL!! Yeah, it's not for me either, and I just keep that feature turned off. It doesn't hurt to have potentially fun features there, though. We already carry cell phones, which if we chose, we could let it check in our location at all times. We seriously live in a tuned in world. We can hardly escape it. Maybe we will be vaping our cell phones, soon.
Now *there's* an idea...a small dongle that you can plug an atty in one end and your cell phone into the other. As if cell phone battery life wasn't bad enough as it is.
I never tried the various eGo T "upgrades...I was always so leery after my horrid experience with the original. Maybe there is a size factor that doesn't work well beyond the size of this 510T thing...the atty is standard 510 size with the spike instead of the bridge and the tank appears to have been redesigned as well with larger air channels to accommodate the larger spike plate cutouts. Since this atty and a pack tanks was only about $12, I thought if it sucked bad I wasn't out much. But maybe they've finally hiot the right design -- at least with this 510 version. I'm gonna have to take a look at the X.... Thanks for the heads up!
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And therein lies my issue. We have enough devices that we carry that can track our every move. Do we really need another? How about a Blu app for our smart phone that tracks who is vaping, where I can buy carts, etc? Why do I need yet another device that is aware of what is going on around me and also relates that info back to the company I bought it from? Do you really think vendors do not track the info our smart devices send off?
It is disguised as a way for you to make new friends, keep up with old friends, etc. but it is actually a way for vendors to track what you do and where you do it. I do not need that in my life. I am fully capable of walking up to someone I find interesting and starting a converstaion with them without some device I am carrying alerting me to their presence.
And therein lies my issue. We have enough devices that we carry that can track our every move. Do we really need another? How about a Blu app for our smart phone that tracks who is vaping, where I can buy carts, etc? Why do I need yet another device that is aware of what is going on around me and also relates that info back to the company I bought it from? Do you really think vendors do not track the info our smart devices send off?
It is disguised as a way for you to make new friends, keep up with old friends, etc. but it is actually a way for vendors to track what you do and where you do it. I do not need that in my life. I am fully capable of walking up to someone I find interesting and starting a converstaion with them without some device I am carrying alerting me to their presence.
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Useless gimmick, IMO. The first thing I ever tried was three Blu disposables. The batteries died very quickly. I called them, and they sent me three free replacements. Same thing, the batteries died in about one hour of vaping. It almost turned me off to the vaping world.
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That is surprising. I started with Blu disposables on July 26th. They always lasted me for over 24 hrs of hitting them hard. Matter of fact, I had one I opened about 4 weeks ago for some friends to try. It sat on my desk all this time and last week I picked it up and puffed it and it was still working. I puffed it all the way home.
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