HotRod19579, what you think? Overreaction? Maybe dissillusion, lol... No, I'm just havin' one heck of a Nicotine fit, lol
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Been a long night shift. Anyway we all know if your going to used the whole Nicotine mix to cut from the supplier, ya won't have to fret over the density of the Nicotine Base; if ya use the whole vat, jug, or jar.
Best close before burn out, thanks for any input into this matter.
Why not get technical!
When you acquire your Nicotine base; of say for instances, 60 mg @ 75% PG. Correct me if in error; ya (you) have by volume 6% Nicotine, 70.5% PG, and 23.5% VG.
Now... Adjust your density based on your percentages.
All is fine not needing the correct density; IF you use all the said base.
Now, you realize the program as "ejuice Me Up" figures right, but now, go start using weight from a 55 gl. barrel and your best to know your density.
Now, maybe you understand what I ask. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm the only one in years to come, to question.
When you acquire your Nicotine base; of say for instances, 60 mg @ 75% PG. Correct me if in error; ya (you) have by volume 6% Nicotine, 70.5% PG, and 23.5% VG.
Now... Adjust your density based on your percentages.
All is fine not needing the correct density; IF you use all the said base.
Now, you realize the program as "ejuice Me Up" figures right, but now, go start using weight from a 55 gl. barrel and your best to know your density.
Now, maybe you understand what I ask. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm the only one in years to come, to question.
Have you diluted any Nicotine base from your suppliers base by method of weight? Do you know the accurate density based on what you started with and your final mix. If you don't? Why the hail not!
Now, can you figure how much your off on your Nicotine strength in your mix, if any? Is it a noticeable amount of +- .5 mg.?
You may say, "Overreaction to a slight amount."
Final: Adjust the Dilute Nicotine section of your program to reflect the true density based on the set densities of each product.
Now, can you figure how much your off on your Nicotine strength in your mix, if any? Is it a noticeable amount of +- .5 mg.?
You may say, "Overreaction to a slight amount."
Final: Adjust the Dilute Nicotine section of your program to reflect the true density based on the set densities of each product.
I like the Cream reference in the DIY section of the forum. Very humorous on a number of levels.
It occurred to me that perhaps you could write your own program whereby you could set the densities to whatsoever you choose, for any and all products. That's at least another option.
It occurred to me that perhaps you could write your own program whereby you could set the densities to whatsoever you choose, for any and all products. That's at least another option.
Yes, the accuracy is only as good as the use deems. It's a nice program and to look into fine tuning or removing some margins of human error won't hurt.
This is not a bad sentiment.
I sometimes read things in the wrong tone on forums. For instance, as an outsider looking in to the series of recent posts, it appeared somewhat badgering toward the the programmer.
I apologize if that wasn't your intended tone for that is how I read it and what prompted my last response.
However, I did/do very much enjoy the Cream reference and was imagining an entire line of flavors based on Ginger Baker, his drumming style and some of their songs, covers and live performances.
Just to clear the air… Prior to my vaping device ever arriving, my E-juice was in the works. I looked at the savings of putting away my tobacco use. Knowing the cost of premixed/flavored nicotine would make a dent at my expected savings, the option of mixing my own seemed the best option.
I was posed with the hassle of trying to have the VG flow completely from the glass. Easing that process was assisted by first measured out the PG, then used to assist in rinsing the VG from the granulation cylinders. Using the method of counting drops wasn't going to happen.
The method of using weight had cross my mind. Yet, being posed with my lacking knowledge of the methods involved at converting ml. of all variables of the products made that overwhelming.
I’m in a state of awe, in finding this program posted near 17 months later of my questioning weight as an option. I’m very grateful that a member of this forum (HotRod19579) cleared my questions from the past.
Anyone using this program needs to realize their acquired nicotine of variable amounts of PG/VG effects the nicotine density by each product involved before they start cutting it. You decide how much it matters.
I find it hard to keep my personal aspects of my traits, such as being nit-picking over finer details out of posting. I have a tolerant wife that does well understanding my moods.
I’ll rest now and fade away…
I was posed with the hassle of trying to have the VG flow completely from the glass. Easing that process was assisted by first measured out the PG, then used to assist in rinsing the VG from the granulation cylinders. Using the method of counting drops wasn't going to happen.
The method of using weight had cross my mind. Yet, being posed with my lacking knowledge of the methods involved at converting ml. of all variables of the products made that overwhelming.
I’m in a state of awe, in finding this program posted near 17 months later of my questioning weight as an option. I’m very grateful that a member of this forum (HotRod19579) cleared my questions from the past.
Anyone using this program needs to realize their acquired nicotine of variable amounts of PG/VG effects the nicotine density by each product involved before they start cutting it. You decide how much it matters.
I find it hard to keep my personal aspects of my traits, such as being nit-picking over finer details out of posting. I have a tolerant wife that does well understanding my moods.
I’ll rest now and fade away…
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Reason for concern over a small amount of a incorrect density.
Production of 24 mg juice of 100 % VG (density = 1.2364) in making a 30 ml. bottle from 100 mg of nicotine compared to using
100% PG (density = 1.0339) from 100 mg your going to end up with >28.7 mg making the same 30 ml., if your don't recompute the correct density.
These density's were firgured by:
Nicotine density = 1.015
Propylene Glycol density = 1.036
Vegetable Glycerin density = 1.261
Production of 24 mg juice of 100 % VG (density = 1.2364) in making a 30 ml. bottle from 100 mg of nicotine compared to using
100% PG (density = 1.0339) from 100 mg your going to end up with >28.7 mg making the same 30 ml., if your don't recompute the correct density.
These density's were firgured by:
Nicotine density = 1.015
Propylene Glycol density = 1.036
Vegetable Glycerin density = 1.261
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Strangebrew, not sure if you saw this post http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/43988-simple-easy-diy-test-mg-ml-nicotine-follow-up-dvaps-method.html but I found it very helpful. Unfortunately I had already purchased a kit from Wizard Labs here: Nicotine Test Kit before I found the post and I'm sure I paid more than I should have. (Though in truth, I don't mind.)
Being new to mixing, I thought it prudent to go ahead and test my results. Fwiw, I have my own concerns about densitiy. I'm waiting for my scientist boyfriend to get home next week to go over everything with him just to make sure I'm not missing something before I include nicotine into my solutions. I appreciate your concerns and was wondering, would you consider creating a new post in the DIY section specifically about density questions? I know I'm interested and figured others might be also. That way we can explore the entire topic on its own merit. Just a thought. If you do post, would you PM the link to me or post it here? Thanks!
Being new to mixing, I thought it prudent to go ahead and test my results. Fwiw, I have my own concerns about densitiy. I'm waiting for my scientist boyfriend to get home next week to go over everything with him just to make sure I'm not missing something before I include nicotine into my solutions. I appreciate your concerns and was wondering, would you consider creating a new post in the DIY section specifically about density questions? I know I'm interested and figured others might be also. That way we can explore the entire topic on its own merit. Just a thought. If you do post, would you PM the link to me or post it here? Thanks!
Yes, Thank you and I also acquired the kit which has been used in the past.
I'm not 100% sure of my calculations and do welcome any input to a better method than using more equipment such as hydrometers.
I want to be sure of myself and expect a near accurate mix.
I don't intend to use the program due to it seeming complex. In no way I'm I trying to cause havoc and/or stress to anyone and that includes the programmer. Opening the additional folders (such a flavors) haven't even been attempted, due to completely understanding how much an error can lay in the incorrect density entered from the user. I have seen the post of estimates from another forum member stating various density of portions of PG/VG. Yet, I ever have cause within my own judgement to consider them inaccurate to various calculations.
An excel program has been completed for my own use and is accurate beyond a hundredth. I would rather be sure of my own calculations which are based on the density of each product effecting the nicotine than to assume another has.
I made some significant changes to the JuiceCalculator and have posted a new version, V3.0.0.4. The primary focus of this update was to provide the ability to identify the manufacturer of your ingredients. A summary of the changes:
- Added a window to create and maintain a list of manufacturers such as TFA, Hangsen, etc This window is launched by clicking the Edit->Maintain manufacturer list. In this window you can create the names you want to use for your manufacturers.
- Due to importing of recipes from other people I had a lot of ingredients with names such as RY4 (TFA), (TFA) 555, RY4 (Hangsen), etc. I wanted to provide a way to update these ingredients and associate them with the appropriate manufacture. On the window used to maintain manufacturers I added a tool that allows you to search for a string and associate all ingredients that contain that string to a manufacturer. Here is how it works:
a. Select (or create) the manufacturer TFA.
b. For the Search ingredient for value box, enter (TFA).
c. Click the Search button.
d. The ingredients in my example will be renamed from (TFA) RY4 to "RY4" and (TFA) 555 to 555 and associated with the manufacturer TFA. - When the ingredients are displayed the manufacture name will be displayed along with the ingredient name. You can choose how to display the manufacturer by using the View->Display ingredient/manufacturer as option.
- When you are building a new ingredient in the Manage Ingredients window you can select a manufacturer to associate the ingredient with (must be done before clicking the create button).
- Unrelated to manufacturers; I added a check box to the Find and replace window. When finding and replacing ingredients you now have the option to delete the original ingredient after the find/replace operation is completed.
- I discovered that when an ingredient was renamed the list of ingredients (when displayed) was not being resorted in alphabetical order. Fixed.
- Provide an option to select how ingredients will be sorted in the dropdown lists (View->Sort Ingredients).
HotRod,
I've been using your calculator exclusively in the last month. Bought a scale just for that purpose. Love mixing by weight.
I want to thank you for making such a great piece of software available. You're giving it away to all vapers and keep providing excellent updates. Kudos sir!
Happy Holidays!!!
I've been using your calculator exclusively in the last month. Bought a scale just for that purpose. Love mixing by weight.
I want to thank you for making such a great piece of software available. You're giving it away to all vapers and keep providing excellent updates. Kudos sir!
Happy Holidays!!!
Afternoon & Happy Holidays!
Was messing around last night and today and noticed when choosing Maintain Manufacturer List:
Whatever term/value is used for the search (words, letters, integers) once you choose Yes to associate it with the manufacturer, the term/value is automatically removed from the ingredient's name.
Was messing around last night and today and noticed when choosing Maintain Manufacturer List:
Whatever term/value is used for the search (words, letters, integers) once you choose Yes to associate it with the manufacturer, the term/value is automatically removed from the ingredient's name.
Yes. I figured that would have been the goal for most. Should I not remove it? Maybe I should have added a checkbox to allow you to choose to remove it.
If you do the search using the word Peach, for example, once you click Yes to associate a new manufacturer, Peach disappears from the ingredient's name. And so, if it was Peach (TFA) and you wanted to change it to Peach (LOR) it is now just (LOR).
Edit: Oh goodness, I just now saw your note about the search string being removed.
Edit: Oh goodness, I just now saw your note about the search string being removed.
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If you do the search using the word Peach, for example, once you click Yes to associate a new manufacturer, Peach disappears from the ingredient's name. And so, if it was Peach (TFA) and you wanted to change it to Peach (LOR) it is now just (LOR).
Edit: Oh goodness, I just now saw your note about the search string being removed.
The intent wasn't to search single ingredients by name. The intent was to search ingredient names for an embedded manufacturer name and associate all matching ingredients to the manufacturer.
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