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MarkyD

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Thanks for a nice calculator that lets me mix by weight. My previous calculator (e juice me up) let me print a handy recipe card for use at the mixing table. I think it treated all paper sizes as if they were a 4x6 recipe card, which was nice because both cards and full-size sheets worked. In other words, printing to an actual 4x6 card results in the recipe filling the card, while printing to a full-size sheet results in a 4x6 corner of the sheet being filled. With recipe calculator it prints 10 or more cards (of the same thing) in an oversize font. Not sure whats up with that, keep up the great work.
 

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I have made a new version available, V3.1.0.2, which includes the ability to print "recipe labels". Please be patient with me on this change and provide me with your input. This is my first cut at it. You can access the print label option by selecting the "File->Print Label" option. There are a few things you should be aware of:

  1. I found some templates for popular label sheets that are sold and loaded those templates however I was only able to test the two that I had available. You may need to do some adjustments to the values in the templates.
  2. One of the values in the label templates is the “left margin”. I learned that I had to adjust this value. The template was set to 0.33 inches for the margin. On one of my printers I had to change it to 0.25 inches in order to align the printing of the label. On another printer I had to adjust it to 0.20 inches. Note that on the “print label” window, there is a button labeled “Manage types” that will allow you to adjust the values in a template and/or create new templates.
  3. If you don’t find a preloaded template for the paper that you have and you create a template, please send me the information. Include the manufacturer, model and the various paper dimensions. I will load it into the predefined templates for future versions.

The printing of labels is a work-in-progress. I will welcome your feedback on changes.
 

HotRod19579

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Thanks for a nice calculator that lets me mix by weight. My previous calculator (e juice me up) let me print a handy recipe card for use at the mixing table. I think it treated all paper sizes as if they were a 4x6 recipe card, which was nice because both cards and full-size sheets worked. In other words, printing to an actual 4x6 card results in the recipe filling the card, while printing to a full-size sheet results in a 4x6 corner of the sheet being filled. With recipe calculator it prints 10 or more cards (of the same thing) in an oversize font. Not sure whats up with that, keep up the great work.
I will look into creating recipe cards and see what I can come up with.
 

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I had a situation the other day that I wondered about...

I wanted to bump up a percentage on one of the flavor ingredients. It was 4%, but I wanted it to be 4.5%. I noticed when I entered that into the box, the milliliters and grams didn't change for that flavor. Am I missing something, or are the ingredients just measured in one millileter increments?
 

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I had a situation the other day that I wondered about...

I wanted to bump up a percentage on one of the flavor ingredients. It was 4%, but I wanted it to be 4.5%. I noticed when I entered that into the box, the milliliters and grams didn't change for that flavor. Am I missing something, or are the ingredients just measured in one millileter increments?

When entering numbers in the box it is not a live update, so to say, your cursor must leave the box for the program to recognize the changes, and it does change.
 

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I had a situation the other day that I wondered about...

I wanted to bump up a percentage on one of the flavor ingredients. It was 4%, but I wanted it to be 4.5%. I noticed when I entered that into the box, the milliliters and grams didn't change for that flavor. Am I missing something, or are the ingredients just measured in one millileter increments?
Like MarkyD stated, the re-calculations occur after you either hit the enter key or when you exit the field by hitting the tab key or clicking in another field on the screen.
If that is not the case, please PM me the details of your recipe so that I can replicate the issue and see what is going on.
 

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Nice job on the label printing option thanks for adding it, I was thinking of what fields were needed and I think you have it covered with what you have (date important) (nic level important ) and recipe name should work to identify all other ingredients. At first I was thinking it should list them out but there is no need you could just look it up in the data base. I printed labels with graphics and other text and resized and moved details from your software so it would fit, it looks very nice when I get some time I will post a picture.
Thanks for taking the time to develop this software which is extremely helpful for me especially the label printing which should help me be more organized which is something I need
Walt
 
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Just Me

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HotRod, one thing you might want to look at...

You have your recipe all done, and you want to change the PG/VG percentages. Let's say you have 50/50, and you click the PG up to 55. The VG goes down to 45, well and good. But if you take the PG back down, the VG doesn't go back up. The mls and grams on the right-hand side ingredients move, but the VG percentage box doesn't. It seems they correspond with each other just fine if the boxes are being ticked up, but not if they are ticked down.
 

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HotRod, one thing you might want to look at...

You have your recipe all done, and you want to change the PG/VG percentages. Let's say you have 50/50, and you click the PG up to 55. The VG goes down to 45, well and good. But if you take the PG back down, the VG doesn't go back up. The mls and grams on the right-hand side ingredients move, but the VG percentage box doesn't. It seems they correspond with each other just fine if the boxes are being ticked up, but not if they are ticked down.
Here is what I think is going on and please let me know if it is not the case and I will investigate.

In the Tools->Options you have the "Volume Calculation" checked. Uncheck it and I believe that you will see the PG/VG percentages act as you described above.
The story behind the "Volume Calculation":
Most people think that PG + VG must always equal 100% even if you have added ingredients that contain something other than PG/VG as their base. Most calculators compute your percentages this way. When the "Volume Calculation" is unchecked, this calculator will calculate your recipe in the manner described. In this scenario the PG/VG values will always adjust themselves to be 100%.
Other people (I am one of them) want to know the actual percentages of PG and VG in their recipe. It is possible that you are adding 45% PG, 45% VG and 10% of other stuff. So... The PG/VG values will only adjust when they go above 100%. Also, the "Precedence" value of PG/VG comes into play. After adding your percentage of ingredient values along with the needed nicotine and PG/VG percentages, if more volume needs to be added to the recipe the PG/VG precedence value will be looked at and it will add the "Precedence" ingredient to bring the recipe up to the needed volume. Does that make sense?

One last note: The "Results" area of the recipe will show you a total of 100% PG+VG if the "Volume calculation" is not checked. If it is checked, the PG + VG may not equal 100%. It will calculate the actual percentages of PG and VG.​
 

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Add or update ingredients: Dislike, due to having to input “Grams per ml”. No one should have to enter grams per ml.
Nicotine has a set density, as does PG & VG. “Grams per ml” should automatically adjust the density due to the amount of PG/VG.
It’s simple mathematics so why does your program fall short of being accurate for them that don’t understand?!
 

Just Me

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Here is what I think is going on and please let me know if it is not the case and I will investigate.

In the Tools->Options you have the "Volume Calculation" checked. Uncheck it and I believe that you will see the PG/VG percentages act as you described above.
The story behind the "Volume Calculation":
Most people think that PG + VG must always equal 100% even if you have added ingredients that contain something other than PG/VG as their base. Most calculators compute your percentages this way. When the "Volume Calculation" is unchecked, this calculator will calculate your recipe in the manner described. In this scenario the PG/VG values will always adjust themselves to be 100%.
Other people (I am one of them) want to know the actual percentages of PG and VG in their recipe. It is possible that you are adding 45% PG, 45% VG and 10% of other stuff. So... The PG/VG values will only adjust when they go above 100%. Also, the "Precedence" value of PG/VG comes into play. After adding your percentage of ingredient values along with the needed nicotine and PG/VG percentages, if more volume needs to be added to the recipe the PG/VG precedence value will be looked at and it will add the "Precedence" ingredient to bring the recipe up to the needed volume. Does that make sense?

One last note: The "Results" area of the recipe will show you a total of 100% PG+VG if the "Volume calculation" is not checked. If it is checked, the PG + VG may not equal 100%. It will calculate the actual percentages of PG and VG.​

Thank you! I guess it would help if I would learn how to use the program! :laugh:
 

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Nevermind... Brew you should chill a bit, Hotrod isn't being paid to do this.. It is also a work in progress. maybe you should check out some of the other calculators.
It's not work in the progress! It's the basic information needed to obtain the correct nicotine level!
 
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