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Hunter1

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Hey All:

I got into vaping about a years ago and then upgraded to sub-ohming and cloud chasing over the last 8 months or so.

My current primary rig is an Eleaf Istick 50w mod with an Aspire Atlantis 2 tank running 0.3 ohm coils. I also run a DOVPO E-LVT 30w mod with an Aspire Atlantis 1 tank running 0.3 ohm coils as a secondary.

Although very interested, I haven't gotten into mechanical mods yet because, honestly, I don't think I have the necessary technical skills to be able to use these without blowing myself up.

I vape a wide variety of 12 mg juices.

I really dig cloud chasing and I'm looking forward to learning from the Vape Wizards that frequent these boards.

Cheers,

Hunter1
 

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Hey, welcome!

Sounds like you are happy with your current devices and tanks. A lot of the equipment coming out is really user friendly, no need to jump into mechanical devices just yet. However if you are interested, we can point you in the right direction of mechanical usage, maintenance, and battery safety if you want to get into it. Good to hear you are cautious about it though.
 

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Hi Hunter i think the only thing i would upgrade is the i stick 50 to an i stick 100 watt if you want more power. The i stick 50 watt will probably be my next upgrade when my defender 36 watt dies . hope to get a few more months out of it though . I like the idea of built in batteries nothing to mess with use until it doesn't work anymore and into the bin. Then upgrade. I use my defender at full power all day every day and so far it's doing really well , had it 11 weeks now . Anyway enjoy your vaping and have a nice day.
 

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Hi Hunter i think the only thing i would upgrade is the i stick 50 to an i stick 100 watt if you want more power. The i stick 50 watt will probably be my next upgrade when my defender 36 watt dies . hope to get a few more months out of it though . I like the idea of built in batteries nothing to mess with use until it doesn't work anymore and into the bin. Then upgrade. I use my defender at full power all day every day and so far it's doing really well , had it 11 weeks now . Anyway enjoy your vaping and have a nice day.
How long do regulated mods generally last? Scary thought to have my subox die on me with only my emow mega as backup.
 

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Hey All:

I got into vaping about a years ago and then upgraded to sub-ohming and cloud chasing over the last 8 months or so.

My current primary rig is an Eleaf Istick 50w mod with an Aspire Atlantis 2 tank running 0.3 ohm coils. I also run a DOVPO E-LVT 30w mod with an Aspire Atlantis 1 tank running 0.3 ohm coils as a secondary.

Although very interested, I haven't gotten into mechanical mods yet because, honestly, I don't think I have the necessary technical skills to be able to use these without blowing myself up.

I vape a wide variety of 12 mg juices.

I really dig cloud chasing and I'm looking forward to learning from the Vape Wizards that frequent these boards.

Cheers,

Hunter1

Hi! Welcome! Amigo..... There is not much difference just two IMO

1. Mechs hit true and hits hard and fast
2. Mechs looks much more awesome and feels awesome and chicks dig it.

Regulated mods have about .5-1 sec of lag time before firing because it has a chip that calculates and decides wether to fire or not to fire. Thats why they are safer but u are limited to the clouds u wanna make as well. It doesnt burn as quality as a mech would. Regulated mods also are limited to the lower ohms u go. Cloud chasing is always about super sub ohming because the bigger surface area touching ur juice the more vapor production. The more airflow more vapor. More dense. Hence cloud chasing. TBH u can cloud chase with a regulated its just a minuscule difference that some might not even bat an eye. Basically mechs are much more risky if you mess up ur calculations and there is no safety switch. Once u fire, it fires.



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Hunter1

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Thanks so much for your reply.

You're absolutely right that I am happy with my current rigs. However, I've always felt that the mech mod - dripping set ups were the Holy Grail of cloud chasing. Am I right or is this just a relative newbie / wannabe phenomenon?

I'd really value your opinion on what the real advantages of going to a mech - dripping system might be.

Thanks.
 

Hunter1

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I find that my vapes seem to get a bit burnt tasting when I push past about 36 w even if the coils (0.3 ohm) are relatively new.

Can you give me any insight into what the secrets are about the higher voltages? I've heard that they yield better taste but, given that mine seem to get burnt-tasting past about 36 I'd really like to understand how I can get more taste from higher voltages without burning the juice.

Thanks.
 
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Well I think you're half onto something. In my opinion, RDA's are the "end-game" of vaping. If you wanna really chuck clouds, you'll be best suited to do it with a wide-open huge-deck RDA.

The part where I disagree with you is the bit about mech mods. About 2 years ago, it was necessary (if you wanted to chuck clouds, and subsequently build low ohms) that you use a mech mod, because for the longest time there were no devices capable of firing lower than 1.2 ohms. For me, it was never really about cloudchasing and more about just finding something that satisfied my craving for cigarettes. RDA's (and mech mods, at the time) did that.

But anyway, fast forward, about 8 months into officially being cigarette-free, I tried out my first "Duke" mod. It was a regulated dual-battery box mod, capable of adjusting voltage from 3-6V, max output of (I think) 100W. There was a period of time where custom-made box mods like the "Duke" were the only way to use a regulated mod and still vape low ohm builds.

Fast forward again, not very long after people started to catch on.. Regulated mods meant added safety features, longer battery life, and devices that were suited to fire a large range of resistances. Nowadays, the market is inundated with dual-battery regulated mods. I'm quite fond of the Sigelei 150W. High powered, low price, and it works great.

Anyway, I'm getting rambly. My point is this. I highly recommend skipping mech mods and picking up something like a Sig 150W and a nice open-airflow RDA. Unless you want it purely for aesthetic purposes, and you're willing to learn the many intricacies of battery safety (and mech mod safety), you should just stick with regulated devices. It greatly minimizes the room for user error, and it allows you to use a range of atomizers on top of a single versatile device.

So there's my advice in 330 words or less.
 
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HardCoil

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I find that my vapes seem to get a bit burnt tasting when I push past about 36 w even if the coils (0.3 ohm) are relatively new.

Can you give me any insight into what the secrets are about the higher voltages? I've heard that they yield better taste but, given that mine seem to get burnt-tasting past about 36 I'd really like to understand how I can get more taste from higher voltages without burning the juice.

Thanks.

Hey,
Well, i'll try to be as helpful as i can. If you have a VV mod it would be a game changer but if u don't a VW would suffice. Higher voltages is best applied for higher resistance coils such as 28g and above. Say about .75ohms and above if u have higher voltages the coils burn faster. Coils that are lesser resistance and broader in diameter tend to heat up faster because of more surface area touching the wick.

Burning tastes will never happen no matter how high wattages you set. Depends on your airflow and your wick. If your airflow is like the Kangertech Subtank, then..... U need to just let it be at about 3-3.5 volts will be fine to vape on. As for the wick u gotta wick it properly so that the cotton always well fed and wet. Assuming ur using cotton. If your airflow is massive, so massive that u can inhale like u breathe normaly, then u have the options to chug clouds and also not getting burnt tastes if u have higher wattages or voltages. The only reason why people go higher is because it burns way way faster and hotter so the coil just burn through your juice really really fast.. Why airflow is important because that is the only thing cooling the coil without it overheating and burns the wick and the juice instead. As you draw your actually cooling and slowing down the heating process for coils. So think about it.

Vaping is kinda a really versatile thing. U may get one thing but you might not always get the other.


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I second what nyiddle just said. Regulated is the best option. Just to add on though, the regulated just fires about .25-.5 secs slower than a mech mod. Coz the mod needs to think and calculate before it fires safely. And the mechs fire true voltages better than a regulated, but this doesnt matter anymore coz u have variable voltages and wattages.

So yup, regulated is the way....
 
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