new dna40 no "lock atty"?
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I did not realize this thread is still going. wait a couple more weeks or get yihi lol. temp control was the next logical step for us. I guess it is not perfect but berserk screen is another matter. hope they fix it this time. I am getting dry hits at way more power than I should be using. no fix for stupid.
yeah but if you just set out to push it beyond it's limits you will get dry hits. I wanted to se how far I could push temp reg. pretty far in fact before it fails to do what it is supposed to. either way it can't fix stupidity. I did it on purpose though. just max it out and back off if you like clouds and flavor.
why would you deliberately misuse it? that said, it's even easier to do with the sx350j so ... /shrug
Nic_fix, could you be so kind and post here again when you get the DNA40 big screen mod back with the upcoming firmware?
Also do you know what the issue is with the latest "no atty lock" version? Always good to know the details.
Thanks
Also do you know what the issue is with the latest "no atty lock" version? Always good to know the details.
Thanks
Just so I understand this: Are you saying that if the resistance is fluctuating, that will trigger the DNA40 chip to go into refinement mode?
Is there any info about how and when refinement mode does it's thing? Thanks!
I don't actually believe it's refinement causing this, I think it's seeing it as an atty connect/disconnect.
I was not really trying to deliberately misuse it per se. I was trying to see how much I could throw at my atty to get the max clouds, not necessarily flavor. I found out rather quickly too. I know I talked about specifically abusing it but that is not what I set out to do. there is no manual for all this because there are too many variables. you just have to find out what suits you. I wanted max clouds. I discovered that if you push it far enough for a given coil the temp control will not save you. you are also correct that it is easier to cause it to be "overloaded" on the 350j than the dna40. there are only two circumstances where this would occur. if you intentionally abused it or where trying to push the performance to the wall. I was doing the later of course. for most people they could be very happy with out ever encountering this scenario. I, in fact did not just crank everything all the way. I went the opposite direction, up. at this moment I feel it is maxed to where temp control will work 100% of the time while still extracting the most possible performance. kind of like tuning a race car. most people don't have one but those that do at some point will deflate the tires to save weight! it depends if you are a performance fanatic. it is certainly not necessary. I can promise you I can't see my hand right now! you can get there with less effort but never know the absolute max. I am just nuts okay but plenty others came before and will after me. of course you could go way further without temp control but I do not like inhaling burnt material. I am pretty happy without that. that is why I backed off just until temp control functioned without fault. this is a good setup and I am happy with it.
yes indeed. I will report back when I get the new big screen. that is if they stand by their promise. I bet they will as they tend to always do so. on the other hand I will be surprised if it is fixed or something else is not broken. I really don't know what the story with this is. the hardware is rather simple in the computer world and the programming can be done by an 8 year old. not rocket science. I just do not understand what went on and probably will never know. all I want is all my $200+ mods to work correctly or come out of their comas. the lock atty feature is not a huge deal. it just signifies as of right now you have the latest chip which supposedly does not go bananas or fail entirely. I can unfortunately confirm that is not true. I hate to say this but if you want to be safe there is only the sx mini as of right now. it's a darn shame. seriously I wish for evolve to do well and prosper. I am not even mad.
yes indeed. I will report back when I get the new big screen. that is if they stand by their promise. I bet they will as they tend to always do so. on the other hand I will be surprised if it is fixed or something else is not broken. I really don't know what the story with this is. the hardware is rather simple in the computer world and the programming can be done by an 8 year old. not rocket science. I just do not understand what went on and probably will never know. all I want is all my $200+ mods to work correctly or come out of their comas. the lock atty feature is not a huge deal. it just signifies as of right now you have the latest chip which supposedly does not go bananas or fail entirely. I can unfortunately confirm that is not true. I hate to say this but if you want to be safe there is only the sx mini as of right now. it's a darn shame. seriously I wish for evolve to do well and prosper. I am not even mad.
i have more or less torture tested the dna40 and found no such problem. temp control only "breaks" when there is a problem with the build in my experience.
the quality of the dna40s temperature control is an aspect i have always found impressive, as it is the first product to market using an entirely new paradigm.
especially now that i have tried a downright bad TC mod in the smok m80!
the quality of the dna40s temperature control is an aspect i have always found impressive, as it is the first product to market using an entirely new paradigm.
especially now that i have tried a downright bad TC mod in the smok m80!
it is entirely possible my build is bad I suppose. theoretically you are correct. it should function regardless of what you set. if you set it to 30w and that it kicks it to 20w it should do the same if you set it to 40w. then again this could also just be another one of my dud chips. I am not aware of that problem anywhere else but it seems as far as I am concerned anything goes. I think evolve personally hates me 
Yeah the kangxin DNA40 clone chip is terrible in comparison as well. I wasn't able to use titanium dual coils for some reason, it regulates the watts down even the temperature isn't reached yet. So hats off to evolve!
@nic_fix if you want to push more vapor you need to make a coil with more surface area. Surface area is most important for vapor. For example really thin nickel wire and triple twist it. Or thicker titanium wire or something like 0.29mm / AWG 29 titanium wire triple twisted.
I haven't tested the Yihi SX350J yet but I hope they will add special modes for titanium grade 1 and 2 and also stainless steel 316L wire (e.g. G-Plat).
@nic_fix if you want to push more vapor you need to make a coil with more surface area. Surface area is most important for vapor. For example really thin nickel wire and triple twist it. Or thicker titanium wire or something like 0.29mm / AWG 29 titanium wire triple twisted.
I haven't tested the Yihi SX350J yet but I hope they will add special modes for titanium grade 1 and 2 and also stainless steel 316L wire (e.g. G-Plat).
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it is entirely possible my build is bad I suppose. theoretically you are correct. it should function regardless of what you set. if you set it to 30w and that it kicks it to 20w it should do the same if you set it to 40w. then again this could also just be another one of my dud chips. I am not aware of that problem anywhere else but it seems as far as I am concerned anything goes. I think evolve personally hates me
I am always a little curious about people who have so many sequential problems with the DNAs. I have had a great track record with them since literally before day 1. I have dealt with enough to see the prevalence of issues, so for the same person to keep having issues just seems unlikely to be random. In any event there is also the issue that some outfits QC better than others.
Alot of folks claim dud chips when it is really something else....no problem here since last September...with many, many dna40's and 25's...but will type the letters sx in my post as you like to do....yep I'm gonna test one J board for myself...
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i will be the first to admit i have very bad luck. don't touch the lottery. i don't see how scrambled screens and flat dead can be something else though? i mean it's possible but i don't know what. i never reversed polarity i am sure of that. you know i am not a troll because i in fact wish them well. i just don't know what wrong with mine. other than bad luck. if you have some ideas to fix them please tell me.
dejay, i did not know that! i can't build them due to disability but have people who help me out. i will ask for what you say. still, people that are filling the room i am pretty sure use more than 40 watts on a subohm build. i really like the temp control though. as i said i am not unhappy with anything at all. just relaying my experiences.
dejay, i did not know that! i can't build them due to disability but have people who help me out. i will ask for what you say. still, people that are filling the room i am pretty sure use more than 40 watts on a subohm build. i really like the temp control though. as i said i am not unhappy with anything at all. just relaying my experiences.
maybe you have crystals in your bloodstream that deliver static charge to sensitive electronics
but yeah, the qc issue, IMO if a device is a replacement for an issue it might be a good idea to doublecheck that it doesn't have the same issue. i don't think certain manufacturers do that.
one thing i think people don't really get is VS is a lower-market US manufacturer while Yihi is at the high end of the China market.
but yeah, the qc issue, IMO if a device is a replacement for an issue it might be a good idea to doublecheck that it doesn't have the same issue. i don't think certain manufacturers do that.
one thing i think people don't really get is VS is a lower-market US manufacturer while Yihi is at the high end of the China market.
it must be overpriced then. it is about the same money as hana. the other thing is money goes way further in china so yihi was American it would probably be double that.
I really liked the vs but it fell apart in a week. others said theirs did too. how ever my vapor flask is dead as a door knob now. I am sure it is just luck of which mine is not good. I am sure there are plenty of people that had no problems. amazingly all my yihi devices were flawless. that's pretty funny that they are Chinese. I mean the words china and quality are usually not spoken in the same sentence. I still hope it gets straightened out and I have unlimited patience. as the really high end mods are all dna. except proprietary stuff like variant.
I really liked the vs but it fell apart in a week. others said theirs did too. how ever my vapor flask is dead as a door knob now. I am sure it is just luck of which mine is not good. I am sure there are plenty of people that had no problems. amazingly all my yihi devices were flawless. that's pretty funny that they are Chinese. I mean the words china and quality are usually not spoken in the same sentence. I still hope it gets straightened out and I have unlimited patience. as the really high end mods are all dna. except proprietary stuff like variant.
Are there any news on the DNA40 firmware? I want to buy new DNA40 big screen chips but preferably with the latest and fixed "atty lock" firmware. Has this been released yet?
Thanks! Just to be clear, what I meant is a firmware revision for the big screen DNA40 AFTER the "no atty lock" version as mentioned here:
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