New Fluxomiser - Burnt atty taste +70% of the time

[Debian Dog]

A friend gave me the old style fluxo and it seemed like when it worked it worked well but most times it didn't but I loved the idea. When I saw the new ones come out with the big FAT wicks and the redesign I was excited. I went ahead and ordered a 2.4-2.6 and a 3.0-3.2 set.

Fast forward to today. I received some nice Swedish Fish 60/35/5 juice and my boxes of fluxo's from GotVapes. I open up one of each kind and as a control I opened up a new GoGo carto then filled them all with the Swedish Fish making sure to put in .8ml leaving a visible bubble at the top. Replaced the inter ring divot side up and loaded one on my eGo and the other on my VV Infinity. Dialed the Infinity down to it's lowest setting 3.02v.

Mucked with them trying both on either device at every voltage I could stand to try. I got to the point I thought I hated Swedish Fish! If I was LUCKY enough to get a hit off these things they taste terrible, tainted with atty... every now and again I will get a clean hit and I feel like I won the lottery or something! I have tried both on all types of voltages but as I ramp it up it just GETS WORSE. I have tried re-wetting the wick via direct drip (that works for a pull or two) then right back to dry burnt atty taste.

PLEASE tell me I am missing something painfully obvious I WANT these to WORK. If not, you will see these things for free in the PIF section tomorrow. Excuse me while I hit my GoGo a few times to get this horrible taste out of my mouth.

 

[DMF]

you may have to gently pull the fill cap up just slightly.*fill cap NOT donut* (I use a dental tool prying on the open ends of the cup). Certain liquids also do better at half a carto full. Apparently they need that air or something I haven't figure out the signifigance. I found that many of the ce2 cartos had issues with the fill cap actually touching the coil causing burning flavor/plasticy flavor nothing nice. In some I have actually had to trim the inner ring of the fill cap slightly to get that flavor to go away. I had one carto that no matter what gave a burnt flavor. I threw it away. There had to have been something not right about the coil or the wicking within it.

 

[Debian Dog]

well believe it or not, I have suffered though vaping these thing so they are now about 1/2 full. My tongue is not happy and I am sure I am going to have atomizer taste nightmares. I tried resetting the cap and for the hell of it I set a few mm space between the doughnut and the coil (I have an 'L' shaped thick straight pin I have bent). Same results.

 

[harmonic]

Ok here is a little bit of info I found could be the direct cause of this. Sometime there is just a little tiny bit of the coil wire NOT touching the wick somewhere. When you take a hit this little peice of wire gets much hotter causing the burnt taste. Sometimes if you turn out all the lights and fire it in the dark you will see a tiny little spot of the wire start to glow. If you can find this spot and push the wire so it touches the wick again it could fix the problem. Sometimes it is very apparent because the wire will light up. Also it is easier to see when checking for this by taking out the seals first. I hope this helps.

 

[Debian Dog]

Well I dialed up the Infinity to 5.5v turned off the lights and ignited it. Did not see anything abnormal.

Beamed from my DroidX

 

[pineappledan]

kinda a dumb question but isn't the divot side supposed to face down and gently hug the wick? otherwise it might just flatten the wick and not allow the juice to make it to the coil? I could be mistaken but worth a try.

 

[harmonic]

yes your right but when you put it in upsidedown (the fill cap) then the seal stops at the top of the ceramic cup and the wicks just lay in the slots of the cup and nothing pushing on them. I haven't tried this myself since my stuff takes some abuse and I would expect to get small leaks around the wick. If you keep it right side up all the time then you could even remove the caps and leave it all open and vape it that way. Mine are all xl and have to be tipped a lot when they are not full all the way.
I'm not really sure what else could be the problem. I have still had new ones that tasted bad for the first fill or so and then got better. They say the wicks are cleaned and burned now but I still torch mine first and it seems some do still have some residue of some kind on the wick.

 

[pineappledan]

ok sorry but I'm not picking up what you're laying down. is the first few minutes of this still hold water?

 

[harmonic]

Yea - great vid lol . What I was talking about is if you never tip it over you could leave ALL the silicone parts out and fill it up and vape away. Some people put the fill cap in upside down (with the divots up) to make it easier to get back out but for me that left a little gap above the wick in the slit in the ceramic cup and would leak just a tiny bit into the cup when tipped over.
I never really had to 'fluf' the wick like chris does in the vid. Maybe doing something like that will help.
Also he burns the wick in the vid but doesn't really heat it up. When I torch mine I usually see some green in the flame at first and I keep the torch on it for a few seconds until the wick glows.

Debian Dog you said you left space between the coil and 'doughnut'. If by that you mean the little flat washer looking seal then that's not the problem one. Try pulling the 'cap' partway off or just take it out all together and see if that helps. Of course don't tip the ce2 with the caps out or you'll pour your juice out lol

 

[pineappledan]

Yea - great vid lol . What I was talking about is if you never tip it over you could leave ALL the silicone parts out and fill it up and vape away. Some people put the fill cap in upside down (with the divots up) to make it easier to get back out but for me that left a little gap above the wick in the slit in the ceramic cup and would leak just a tiny bit into the cup when tipped over.
I never really had to 'fluf' the wick like chris does in the vid. Maybe doing something like that will help.
Also he burns the wick in the vid but doesn't really heat it up. When I torch mine I usually see some green in the flame at first and I keep the torch on it for a few seconds until the wick glows.

Debian Dog you said you left space between the coil and 'doughnut'. If by that you mean the little flat washer looking seal then that's not the problem one. Try pulling the 'cap' partway off or just take it out all together and see if that helps. Of course don't tip the ce2 with the caps out or you'll pour your juice out lol

awesome tip thanks. I have my first ever ce2s on the way so I got confused about the gaskets.

 

[hairball]

Remove the ceramic cup silicon cap. Take a pair of small pointy scissors and clip the wick openings a little bigger. Replace it, fill, and try it. Sounds as though they aren't wicking fast enough (typical problem with them). However, I only ever used the 3.0-3.2 fluxes so that I could turn the voltage up if I wanted too. Very rarely did I get a burnt taste.

 

[Debian Dog]

kinda a dumb question but isn't the divot side supposed to face down and gently hug the wick? otherwise it might just flatten the wick and not allow the juice to make it to the coil? I could be mistaken but worth a try.

I put them back together as they were when I opened them.

Remove the ceramic cup silicon cap. Take a pair of small pointy scissors and clip the wick openings a little bigger. Replace it, fill, and try it. Sounds as though they aren't wicking fast enough (typical problem with them). However, I only ever used the 3.0-3.2 fluxes so that I could turn the voltage up if I wanted too. Very rarely did I get a burnt taste.

I will see but this seems like a lot of effort just to make something "work". The 3.0-3.2 is what I have.

 

[emus]

I've got some in the mail.
I plan to start w/ thinner 100% PG (flavorless); perhaps it will wick better.
I also plan to hold upside down to saturate wick much as possible; as mentioned.
I plan to assist wicking w/ DD like you did.

Did you try 100% PG w/o flavor?

 

[Debian Dog]

Actual now i am sitting here with both the doughnut and the mouthpiece stopper out taking some drags. It is "better" but there is some nasty taste that is in these things that I just can't seem to get over.

I gave a friend my filled ones to try on her eGo and she handed them back to me. I forced her to take one back in the hopes she would stumble upon the "secret". She hesitantly took it.

 

[Debian Dog]

You know what. I am done screwing with these. You want them?

(4) CE-2 X clear no tint 510 REG 1ml 2.4-2.6 ohm
(4) CE-2 X clear no tint 510 REG 1ml 3.0-3.2 ohm
(one missing per box 5-1=4)

PM me for my e-mail address, then PayPal me $10 and I will ship them to you Tuesday morning. CONUS only.

 

[jkoppk]

These revised ones do have issues.I think the tube being thicker squeezes the wick preventing good juice flow.The reason I think this is they were all terrible in their tubes.I needed a replacement ce2 for my storm tank so I took one and cut the tub in half then used it in my tank and it works great.

 

[badkolo]

thats actually not true, the new ones have no black sleeve around the cup and now there is more room between the cup and the tube then before.

 

[jkoppk]

thats actually not true, the new ones have no black sleeve around the cup and now there is more room between the cup and the tube then before.

Sure deleting the black tube gives more room but that room is lost by the thicker tube and the wicks.Thats why map tanks work so well because the wicks hang free.I can look at all mine and see clearly that the wicks are smashed between the tube and ceramic causing wicking problems.And they work perfect when put in a tank,no dry hits at all.These things would be a winner if the tube diameter was slightly increased or the ceramic decreased to allow the wick to hang free.Oh well at least I have 15 2.4-2.6 ohm replacements for my Storm Tank until you guys revise to a combo that works.

 

[timothy]

just search for the syrenge mod works great and if you use vv or 5 v use the 3.0 3.2 ohm ones the 2.6 will give you burnt taste quite often look here

 

[jkoppk]

just search for the syrenge mod works great and if you use vv or 5 v use the 3.0 3.2 ohm ones the 2.6 will give you burnt taste quite often look here

I would but i'm just gonna use them in my storm tank so no need for a syringe mod.But still the 2.6 should have no burn issues out of the pack at 3.7 volts which I use them at.