Burnt taste from Pheonix bottom coil
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I think the main thing is just filling them SLOWLY. When filling the air inside needs to be released through the coil end. If it's full or all gunked up that could prevent some of the air escaping, then after filling you would actually end up with a pressurized vessel. I believe that pressure buildup is what will start the leaking. Sometimes I'll purposely leave an air gap in the syringe. If there is still fluid at the coil end as you are filling it upside down, you will see it move around until that air you are introducing has an escape route. Once that path is open you are home free. I have only had one out of 14 leak on me and that was in the very beginning.
Quite possibly. I had two go from my first 3 boxes but that was from me doing overly enthusiastic dry burns . Got though the burn OK, I thought. But when I filled them ... nothing.
If you have a different battery try that. Sometimes the center post on the cart goes in a bit and will lose contact with the battery contact. (You can pull that post out a bit sometimes) Batteries vary slightly and I have had some carts that will fire on one but not the other. I have a Pro-Vari with a built in Ohm checker and that's how I get my final determination.
If you have a different battery try that. Sometimes the center post on the cart goes in a bit and will lose contact with the battery contact. (You can pull that post out a bit sometimes) Batteries vary slightly and I have had some carts that will fire on one but not the other. I have a Pro-Vari with a built in Ohm checker and that's how I get my final determination.
Tried it in my kgo and vtube , plus pulled contact out a bit still nothing. I think its toast .SOB . Glad I ordered 10 on to the next one .
Bottom coil units have very short leads and I do mean short as most coils are sodered right to the center pin and outer ground, I have had the coil break at the center pin if that center pin turns when screwing the carto on . Have you ever screwed a fluxo on and the wires were straight but after you screw it down the wires are wound around the center tube ?
I've had problems with the 510 version of the BC. I bought three packs hoping that these would be problem free. They weren't. Of the first five I tried from pack one, four tasted burnt from the get go. I had to take dry puffs every other draw to get good flavor. This is just an unacceptable way to vape. Three of these stopped working (wouldn't fire) after less than a day. They also got very hot to the touch at the base. One is working perfectly...vaping nirvana. Why shouldn't they all work this way??
Well, I've got two packs left and I'm hoping that these will be better. If anyone has any solutions to these problems, please let me know.
Thanks
Well, I've got two packs left and I'm hoping that these will be better. If anyone has any solutions to these problems, please let me know.
Thanks
I have more than a dozen of these filled with different flavors and did not have a major issue with any until yesterday. I filled a new one and had the same dry hits you are describing. I was shocked since these have been pretty much flawless for me. They are my main vape. Priming worked for one puff and that was it. Dry again. I took it apart and looked closely at the coil. Two things struck me. This coil was sitting very low in the cup and it was twisted quite a bit out of line with the wick notches. To the point that they were scrunched so bad I could understand them not wicking right. I took my trusty small diameter tiny hook paperclip and lifted the coil up more in line with the height of the wick grooves. Bear in mind if there is no slack in the attached wire it may not come up and there is a chance you can actually pull a connection off. Did that once. After raising the coil I took a small very pointy needle nose plier and turned the wick so it is in line with the wick grooves. Now it's as straight, height wise and rotation wise as I could get it. Reassembled and it works perfecty. The biggest problem I'm sure was the rotation being off. It was like crimping the wick. Easy to understand why it wasn't pulling juice.
Hope this helps resolve your problem. But like I said, this is not a common issue for me. 99.9% have been working flawlessly no matter what juice I throw in them.
Thanks for help and will give it a look. I did try the squeeze but it only worked for a puff or two. Its fustrating when you have to correct poor workmanship yourself and pay for the opportunity. I suppose its better than smoking the real thing. I do wish that gotvapes could get a handle on these quality issues.
I really think Dan and Chris are going above and beyond pushing for higher quality. And I think it's showing. Got to remember these are produced in China where the only goal in the beginning was to produce everything as quickly and cheaply as they could. That may never totally change but they are at least looking at the quality aspect a little harder. I think they are finally getting a clue that it's good to have buyers returning to them after the first purchase. I applaud Dan and Chris for not throwing everything available on their site . There is still a lot of crap being sold that other vendors will still pick up for a song and pass it on.
ME TOO!!!-lol-on the burnt vape that is.... & 2 SEPERATE TYPE of "BURNT TASTE", on 2 seperate phoenix's. The first, I believe I burnt the wicks. As it is NOT that "dry burnt" strong, evident "dry vape" taste. More like a more subtle(but still revolting!) "something is ACTUALLY Burnt" taste-lol. Strangly enough it doesnt occur immediatally though. It takes a few succesive "pulls/vapes" before it happens. This probably happened with a unsucessful "dry burn", I attempted after switching from a STRONG e-juice flav. Unfortunatally, I liked the phoenix quite a bit(before this happened of course) so I purchased another. Feeling that it was my fault, the 1st one was ruined. BUT, (this is the "unfortunatally")- as soon as it arrived i filled it, primed it, & went to vaping. After maybe 3-4pulls; "DRY BURN". Soooo I primed again, using a priming pull, and alittle "bubble squeeze", & AGAIN; 2-3pulls="Dry VAPE", ugh!!!! & so it continues. This IS though ONLY the FIRST HOUR OR SO INTO VAPING THE SECOND PHOENIX. Im REALLY hopeing its just "breaking in", & this wont continue on. As the 1st phoenix I purchased didnt have any problems until I DID a "dry burn" on it. Anyone with similar experiences PLEASE comment, & anyone with a possible solution, PLEASE post aswell! Id GREATLY APPRETIATE ANY FURTHER RESPONSE! THANX! & KEEP VAPING!-(Well, maybe not with a phoenix-lol)- SOOO unfortunate, because I REEALLY LIKED them! Atleast up until NOW!!-(2phoenix's=2 bad experiences :-(..)- Could this 2nd problem be the device just breaking in????
Oh, & when it comes down to "Gotvapes"-good people!!!! The ONLY site I order equipment from!-even if I see it for$1-or 2 less somewhere else(which DOES NOT HAPPEN OFTEN, AS THEIR PRICES ARE ALWAYS GOOD). I Though, have yet to return, or call them about ANY of THESE(or other) products in which Ive had a problem with... I probably should, because contrary to what I OFTEN HEAR(& IT DRIVES ME MAD!!!) $10-15 for a clearo', or carto tank, IS NOT pocket change!!!!!!! When I spend $30 on 2 phoenix's that dont work, Its not something I can CASUALLY "brush off"!!!!! I DO think Im going to give them a call in the morning following this botched phoenix, as it was something that arrived problematic. & I BET!;- "gotvapes" will handle it professionally, just like the way they handle ALL OTHER aspects, that I have come to love them for!...-I hope
Oh, & THESE problems ARE NOT, derived, or represented by "Gotvapes"! Nor do I blame them, for a product they DO NOT build, or have any control(other than to stop carrying the product) over these problems. & I DO NOT want them to stop carrying them altogether, because out of the multiple-thousands of them produced, my experience is STILL, ONLY A 100 of a %, or something like that... I coulda just had a fluke, of a prob.!! Thanx Gotvapes!!-you guys HAVE been GREAT to me!!! Keep it up!
Rofl!! Happy days.... Well, now BOTH phoenix's are working great, & vaping w/o any burnt taste, no matter how fast, or long I vape on them. The older one, I gave several STRONG dry pulls, and a great big bubble "blurped" up!! & NO more burnt taste. The new one, I did the same with, until alittle liquid was heard in the center(drawing tube)-kinda' flooding it like.... & it too now works PERFECT!!! ANYONE, with the "burnt taste" problem, keep @ it!!!! I tried priming both MANY times, and MANY different ways. The ONE THING THAT HELPED MOST!-WAS putting the outter black sleeve on, and blocking any of the other places for air to be drawn in from; thus pulling directly, and strongly, from inside the tube, & the wicking mech!!! So MAKE sure your LEAVING THE outter black "skirt" on, & possibly even try plugging any other venting places, or the putting your thumb under the bottom(where it connects to the battery) BEFORE YOU DO A PRIMING DRAW/PULL!!!! If it worked for me(after trying dozens of times, and dozens of ways before) it should work for you too!!! Look,and listen for that BIG BUBBLE, & FLOODING SOUND!
But then don't you get a mouth full of liquid and then leaks?
That's what happens to me when I get a gurgle.
That's what happens to me when I get a gurgle.
There are several products with Phoenix in the title.
I assume you are talking about Phoenix XL where when he states a $30 price tag for 2....he may be talking about the Phoenix tank.
It gets confusing.
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Well I hope this clarifies it. I was speaking of the 1.5ml bottom coil clearo' units. The ones with the black skirt/cover, that slips over the tiny tank(if u can even call it a tank-lol)! Also it has a black "pen like" top screw on piece. But!!!- I have since STOPPED USING THIS PRODUCT!! It ended up having waay to short of a lifespan, and too much hassle, & burnt/dry hits!!! The problem appears to be with the tiny "puffed wicks", and the VEERY TINY holes which the wicks draw the liquid in from the tank. After usually just 1-2 refills, it seems these holes start getting clogged/plugged up by the viscous liquid, THUS CAUSING THE DRY/BURNT HITS which plague this device. I have tried MAANY DIFF. LIQUIDS, of varying viscosity, and ALWAYS sooner or later(usually sooner!) After little usage_Burnt NASTINeSS!!! Sooo, Id do some "dry, priming hits", & Eventually(sometimes it would take20-30 tries even!!) it would start performing oh so good again!!! Unfortunatally it was NEVER LASTED LONG. & IF it DIDNT HAVE SUCH AN AMAZING VAPE, it wouldnt be such a sad truth, or BE SOOO HARD TO GIVE UP ON!! Finally the "piece de resistaunce",- Every UNIT I have had ALSO sooner or later "blew a HARDCORE LEAk", when the glue holding the top piece, and plug "gave". It would be a Complete LEAK/FAILURE(meaning the ENTIRE CONTENTS would be expeled from the unit). & it would happen at the strangest times. Almost ALWAYS at night, when they were neither attached to a battery, nor set on their side, or upside down(always right side up, where the failure point was ABOVE the liquid. I couldnt figure it out for quite sometime, until I remembered its a "pressurized tank". Also, It only seemed to happen when the outter "black slip-over skirt", & cap were on.(thus plugging the air vents at the bottom of the tank, which(when on) the "black slip" covers up, and the pen cap blocks the last place for air, or liquid in this case to escape. Thus pushing up the metal cap just enough for the liquid to COMPLETELLY EVACUATE/ESCAPE inbetween the plastic tank, and the metal cap!!! Wow, hope you got ALL OF THAT, cause' I dont think Im going to be "spelling" that out again, any time soon!!!!-ROFLMAO!!! WELL, I REEEALLY HOPE people in question get a chance to read this, cause I dont think ill be posting again any time soon!!!!-lol!! Good luck, and I hope this helps at very least one questioning soul
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