New guy needs info

[SV_Dude]

I tried to search and couldn't find much info on the nitty gritty. I am on my 2nd battery and am now using what I guess is called a mod. My first battery was an E-go twist 9 hour battery. I used it for a week and wasn't very happy with it. The hits were inconsistent and I wasn't happy with the battery life. I recently got a new E-go variable voltage and am liking how the hits are at least consistent. My question is on adjusting the voltage and wattage. From what I understand, increasing the voltage will make the coil hotter and give a stronger hit (or more vapor). What does adjusting the wattage do?

If you need info on my setup I am using a dual tank setup. I don't remember the name of the maker but it has a top and bottom tank with wicks. The E-go is telling me that it is a 1.9Ohm resistance cartomiser.

Also, I would like to report good success so far in vaping. My wife and I both got into this in order to kick the nasty habit of smoking. My wife has been smoke free for over a week now and I am smoking 1-2 per day and finding smoking cigarettes to be very unpleasant as each day goes on.

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi and welcome!

I want to make sure I understand what device you are using. Does it look like this?

 

[The Ocelot]

I just reread your post. Do you have a link to what your battery looks like? Either the vendor name or a picture? Google images is fine, you don't have to take a picture.

 

[SV_Dude]

eGo Variable Voltage Variable Wattage APV Vamo K

This is the mod that I am using. The pic you posted was the first one that I used.

 

[The Ocelot]

eGo Variable Voltage Variable Wattage APV Vamo K

This is the mod that I am using. The pic you posted was the first one that I used.

Okay, gotcha. What you have is a Vamo. I know the listing calls it an eGo-whatever, but if you call it that people will get confused.

I need to reread your question again now that I know what we are talking about. I have a learning disorder, so it can take me awhile to figure things out.

 

[SV_Dude]

It's all good, thanks! I'll post a pic if it helps.

 

[dagrasso91]

I hope you didn't pay $80 for it!?! I got my vamo v3 full kit for $53. Think of the voltage as the power that's going to the coil; it needs to be adjusted to suit the coil. Wattage, however, think of as the heat that the coil is producing; so the vamo will adjust the voltage to each atomizer, etc... you put on it when in wattage mode. Like myself, I vape at around 11 watts: this is the vape I like and depending on the atomizer I put on it the vape is always the same. In other words, you set it and forget it so to speak; you find a vape you like (i.e. the wattage that produces the vape you like) and 90% of the time you don't need to adjust it when changing attys. I hope you get what I mean lol.

 

[The Ocelot]

This is a copy and paste from my files, so it reads a bit stilted and/or may need to be further editing if I missed something.


Variable Voltage/Variable Wattage allows the user to increase or decrease the amount of power (watts) used by the heating element to vaporize the liquid; this affects temperature, throat hit and taste. Some juice may taste burnt at high levels, while others may seem less flavorful at low levels. It can also affect the amount of vapor produced, although the pg/vg ratio of a juice can be more important.

Volts are a measurement of input, ohms are a measurement of resistance and watts are a measure of output.

In the Variable Voltage setting you manually set the voltage level (input) based on the resistance (ohms) of the delivery device to produce the desired output level of power (watts).

The Variable Wattage seems to be the preferred setting for Vamo users. You set the device at the power level you prefer (for example 8w) and the device will measure the resistance (ohms) of the attached delivery system and automatically adjust the voltage to produce the wattage it was set at. (For example, if the delivery system has 2.0ohms resistance, the device will adjust to 4v to produce 8w; if the resistance is 3.0ohms, it will adjust to 4.9v to produce 8w). VW devices also have a VV mode, which you can switch to if you choose.

For example, I have cartos with resistances of 2.0ohms, 2.50hms and 3.0ohms. I like all of my juices at 8w. No matter which carto I put on the VW device, it will detect the resistance and automatically adjust the voltage to get to 8w.

From the product description, it looks like you have a V2, which can be set in AVG or RMS mode.

RMS is recommended for non-veteran users. You want to make sure it's in this mode!

Hold either the negative or positive button for 10 seconds to toggle between modes.

RMS mode = N02 displayed
AVG mode = N01 displayed

 

[The Ocelot]

In real language...

Vaping is all about taste. There are charts and mathematical formulae around to give you a general level at which to start, but then you increase or decrease the power until it taste good to you. Too hot, turn it down; too cool, turn it up.*

ETA: Here is a link to one of the popular charts. Keep in mind that the charts only give you a rough place to start:

http://www.ecigadvanced.com/community/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/power.jpg

*ETA: This is true no matter if the device is set in VV or VW mode.

 

[SonHouse]

Volts are the measure of potential to do work. The amount of work they do depends on the resistance they encounter when they flow. The amount of work done is the wattage. So, you have to vary the voltage depending if the resistance changes to accomplish the same amount of work. In our application, the work being done is heating a wire resistor.

So, if you vary the voltage over the same resistance, you change the number of watts of work done. If you keep the Ohms fixed across different resistances, you need to vary the voltage which is something your device does automatically. The advantage to watts mode is that I can pull one device off, put on another that has a different resistance and the amount the coil is heated remains the same. If I was keeping the voltage fixed, the amount of work done would vary and therefore the amount of heating.

 

[InTheShade]

I hope you didn't pay $80 for it!?! I got my vamo v3 full kit for $53. Think of the voltage as the power that's going to the coil; it needs to be adjusted to suit the coil. Wattage, however, think of as the heat that the coil is producing; so the vamo will adjust the voltage to each atomizer, etc... you put on it when in wattage mode. Like myself, I vape at around 11 watts: this is the vape I like and depending on the atomizer I put on it the vape is always the same. In other words, you set it and forget it so to speak; you find a vape you like (i.e. the wattage that produces the vape you like) and 90% of the time you don't need to adjust it when changing attys. I hope you get what I mean lol.

It's OK if the OP paid $80 for it - I did for my 'bamboo mod' that is actually a Vamo V2. If it keeps us off the stinkies it's all good. I know now we can get them cheaper, I also know if I didn't buy the 'bamboo' at that particular time in my vaping journey, I may well have bought a carton of Malboro's instead. So $80 value is relative.

Also, 11 watts is on the high side - unless you are using a dual coil setup (like the OP, and I guess you are using). Go ahead and screw in single coil device and I almost guarantee that 11 watts will burn the juice and may cause a kitten to be harmed in Outer Mongolia.
Your eyeballs may also bleed and I think it may make a butterfly flap its wings in Brazil that will cause a tree to fall silently in Oregon.

 

[SV_Dude]

Thanks for all the help guys! Lets not talk about the price, I got it at a local store in Colorado Springs and come to find out, they aren't the cheapest and I probably will do my shopping online from now on.

edit: till the help of you guys, I was unaware that the voltage setting automatically adjusts the wattages and vice versa. I like using the wattage setting more because you can fine tune the taste/hit better than the voltage setting.

 

[The Ocelot]

It's OK if the OP paid $80 for it - I did for my 'bamboo mod' that is actually a Vamo V2. If it keeps us off the stinkies it's all good. I know now we can get them cheaper, I also know if I didn't buy the 'bamboo' at that particular time in my vaping journey, I may well have bought a carton of Malboro's instead. So $80 value is relative.

Also, 11 watts is on the high side - unless you are using a dual coil setup (like the OP, and I guess you are using). Go ahead and screw in single coil device and I almost guarantee that 11 watts will burn the juice and may cause a kitten to be harmed in Outer Mongolia.
Your eyeballs may also bleed and I think it may make a butterfly flap its wings in Brazil that will cause a tree to fall silently in Oregon.

Leave the kittens alone.

I didn't draw this, but I plan on drawing something similar that shows watts too. Watts would be how much of the top half of the amps guy is passed the resistant point.

 

[The Ocelot]

Thanks for all the help guys! Lets not talk about the price, I got it at a local store in Colorado Springs and come to find out, they aren't the cheapest and I probably will do my shopping online from now on.

edit: till the help of you guys, I was unaware that the voltage setting automatically adjusts the wattages and vice versa. I like using the wattage setting more because you can fine tune the taste/hit better than the voltage setting.

You can fine tune from either setting, but VW seems to be easier for beginners to grasp - and the Vamo is very popular right now, so you will get a lot of advice.

ETA: Just to clarify (in case it isn't)

If you change the voltage, the wattage will change; and if you change the wattage, the voltage will change. But only in the wattage setting will the device measure the resistance of the topper screwed onto it and automatically adjust the voltage.

 

[InTheShade]

Leave the kittens alone.

I didn't draw this, but I plan on drawing something similar that shows watts too. Watts would be how much of the top half of the amps guy is passed the resistant point.

I just think it looks dirty - but I like it.

 

[The Ocelot]

I don't like this one (monkeys scare me), but might it illustrate the concept better to some people. Again it doesn't show watts for some reason. Pretend the monkey is blowing into a balloon instead of a straw. Watts would be how big the balloon is.

ETA: Watts would be the amount of water in the river at the bottom of the waterfall.

 

[SV_Dude]

Thanks for the help. I'm now finding myself looking around at different tank setups, different coils, etc. there's so much out there for these things!

 

[Train2]

$0.02
Yep, that's a VAMO, and SO many people are pleased with it, that I think you're on the right track thinking about trying different "juice delivery systems" as the next step for you.
A lot of folks love the Protank, a lot of folks love the EVOD, etc...those are easy to find and use.

 

[hvac999]

I have a Vamo V2 and I use a ProTank. I hve it se at 7.5w-8w and it works great. I tried 10w on the ProTank and I was burning heads. So, try 7.5w-8w if you get a ProTank. I also like EVODs at the same wattage.

 

[Steven Pye]

just ordered a VAMO myself and found this very enlightening