New guy, Tons of Vapor and a Bit of Throat Hit

[Gomtuu]

Hi all!

(This is my first post. It took me several minutes to get here.)

I've been vaping for about a month, and I have not had a craving for an analog in that whole time.

What I've learned is that I want massive vapor, just tons and tons of it, and a medium amount of throat hit.

I've been using Green Smoke and Blu...I know, I know... but it's what I was hipped to (by myself) when I first starting researching all this lovely e-cig stuff, before I discovered this wonderful forum. I find that the Green Smoke is better, especially when it comes to battery life. But now I want to get into more involved vaping...

And what I want is voluminous vapor and a bit of a throat hit. In the month I've been experimenting with vaping, I've found that I need a little throat hit, but not so much that I'm all dried out and itchy down there. I've also found that I want a lot of vapor, and I mean a lot. It seems that I should mix my own e-juice, and that I should use more VG than PG, if I want more vapor than throat hit (if one can quantify such things, and I bet that one can). I've done a lot of reading on this site, but there are thousands of posts on every vaping topic imaginable, so I've gotten a little lost here and there....and I don't even know if I'm in the right place to post this question. (And this question has turned into a rambling monologue).

Can someone give me the magical formula for this massive vapor and medium throat hit need? I'm talking about hardware (batteries, atomizers, etc.) as well as software (juice). Dude, I'm afraid that I'll spend too much money before I figure it out on my own.

If anyone responds to this, I thank you in advance. Vaping has kept me from smoking, and I'm so excited about it that...I don't know what. My 4-year-old daughter is excited, too. She's never seen me vape, as I don't want to confuse her, but I'm sure a bunch of you have kids and you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Whew. What a long-winded newbie.

 

[bp400]

anywhere from 70vg/ 30 pg to 100% vg. Maybe 6-12mg for juice

hardware I guess 6v would be the way to go, which means stacking batteries. You can do this with a Silver Bullet from Altsmoke I believe and a number of other mods. Someone will need to chime in with the type of batteries cuz I forgot
You can also get a ton of vapor at 5-6 volts with a vv device like provari, vw darwin, box mods or others

And for max vapor a nice atty is probably the way to go like i06 or HH.357 something or other (these also aren't familiar to me I use carto tanks)

Yea but any upgrade will surprise you compared to what you have been using

 

[Endweaver]

Well for me I guess I would go for a 901LR Atty by smoktech or ikenvape's i06 powered by a Silver Bullet or any other tube mod enhanced with the Kick (by evolvapor) to 9 watts and loaded with a VG based ejuice.

 

[Gomtuu]

Thanks, guys! I didn't realize anyone had responded to my post (I guess I need to figure out how to use this site). I'm gonna look into that Silver Bullet. I wish there was a vaping shop in my area, as that would make it easy to go physically look at some of this stuff. But that's what this forum is for, huh?

Thanks again!

 

[bushmasterar15]

Welcome to the ECF. There is E-Cig over in Laguna Beach might make a nice weekend trip.

 

[bushmasterar15]

Forgot to give you the website so you would have a number and address for them.
E-Cig City

 

[705techno]

Im liking the large amount of vapour thing as well, another newbie two weeks in, rockin an ego-c one week old and love it

 

[sailorman]

Thanks, guys! I didn't realize anyone had responded to my post (I guess I need to figure out how to use this site). I'm gonna look into that Silver Bullet. I wish there was a vaping shop in my area, as that would make it easy to go physically look at some of this stuff. But that's what this forum is for, huh?

Thanks again!

Can't really beat the Silver Bullet for a moderately priced fixed voltage PV. The thing is built like a tank and will likely outlast you and your grandchildren. It's not advisable to stack batteries to get 6V or 7.4V, but if you just must, do it in a Silver Bullet. A couple people have stacked unprotected batteries and caused an explosion. All it did was displace the switch a fraction of an inch. A lesser mod would have shattered like a fragmentation grenade or launched the carto into the vaper's face. Even the switch is a commercial quality unit, designed for public abuse on ATMs and public intercoms. It's supposed to be good for about half a million cycles. Mine is more than halfway there and still working like new.

Several factors combine to get you what you want, lots of vapor and med. throat hit.

High throat hit results from one or more of the following: High PG, high wattages (meaning high voltage and low resistance), high nicotine content and the addition of pure grain alcohol.

High vapor production results from: High VG and high wattage.

Some of these factors are self-cancelling, so you have to do a balancing act.

 

[Deathnote4U]

I also love the eGo C, if you change over to a low resistance atty and 18 mg of nicotine strength you get a nice throught hit with a bit of warmth. The vapour amount I have always found high and noticably more so with clear juices, Higher vg amounts will raise this as well. If you don't want to spend a ton of cash and like something more portable and easy to refill, I would reccomend the eGo C. To be honest with you vaping is fun and a lifestyle, you will always be buying differant toys and new mods even if what you already have is perfectly fine. It is fun to collect and use differant PV's along the way, so....You most likely wont be finding just one more device and stick with it.

 

[Gomtuu]

Thanks, I am definitely going to check out that spot. Laguna Beach...boy, do I have memories of that place. I haven't been there in years. I wonder what it's like now?

 

[Gomtuu]

@705techno: Welcome, fellow new vaper! You got a good setup pretty quickly, it sounds like. I'm still waiting for my 510 VV to arrive in the mail. But what is the "C" in "eGo-C?"

 

[Gomtuu]

@sailorman and Endweaver: That really is a deep recommendation for the Silver Bullet. Thank you. I looked it up, and I want to get something exactly like that, when I'm financially a little more secure...

Also, I'm looking forward to the "balancing act," believe it or not. I enjoy this kind of experimentation. Thanks again for the info. Concerning the wattage etc, there is a great post by forum member BiffRocko about high voltage vaping that is awesome and eye-opening. If I knew how to post links to other posts, I would do it, but for now: The thread is called "So what IS high voltage vaping all about? (Everything you've wanted to know plus a bit of electronic theory)." It's good!

 

[Gomtuu]

@sailorman: Your signature about not using the term "e-cig" is wonderful, it actually made me stop using the term in my own journalistic ramblings on 750words.com. That is not an advert for that site, it's just an acknowledgement of your subtlety. Thanks.

 

[Cloud Wizard]

I like your description. I don't want to scorch my throat, just lots of taste and vapor. For me, an IkenVape 901/1.8LR atty on 3.7v PigCig, dripping 50/50 PG/VG 18mg nic is the closest to ritual & satisfaction I used to get from lighting up. 3 drops gives the same 8-10 hits a smoke gave with lots of everything good (flavor, clouds, warmth).

 

[Gomtuu]

@Cloud Wizard: You get me, Wizard. That sounds like what I need.

I gotta say, there are at least as many different favorite batteries (and atomizers) on this site as there are users. It gets overwhelming. It looks like we joined at the same time, and now I'm just waiting to post my "how long since my last cigarette" banner; did you quit analogs around the beginning of February/end of January, too?

 

[Cloud Wizard]

@Gomtuu: today is day 60 (after 33 years of 1.5 packs/day Marlboro), 90 packs/1800 analogs avoided Although with all the experimenting with different stuff, I haven't broken even on costs yet. My log says It'll be cheaper around day 100, with a potential annual savings around $3k there after...

 

[Flying W]

This will do it . And a bottle of this.

Might as well invest in the good stuff.Its real easy to waste a lot of money starting out . Massive vapor comes from a great pv atty combination combined with the quality of nicotine and quanity thats in your eliquid.VG is known for making plumes of vapor so go heavy on the VG if you want a big cloud.

 

[pumasforpets]

anywhere from 70vg/ 30 pg to 100% vg. Maybe 6-12mg for juice

hardware I guess 6v would be the way to go, which means stacking batteries. You can do this with a Silver Bullet from Altsmoke I believe and a number of other mods. Someone will need to chime in with the type of batteries cuz I forgot
You can also get a ton of vapor at 5-6 volts with a vv device like provari, vw darwin, box mods or others

And for max vapor a nice atty is probably the way to go like i06 or HH.357 something or other (these also aren't familiar to me I use carto tanks)

Yea but any upgrade will surprise you compared to what you have been using

I created a thread discussing the ECF mod safety guidelines which has had a HUGE amount of response and debate about battery and mod safety. Please forgive me, but I have to be a bit harsh here.

I am a big proponent of personal responsibility, but please DO NOT suggest stacking to noobs. There is no reason for it and it could be considered reckless. The most common cause of PV explosions is a stacked battery configuration.

I'm sitting here vaping on a Don in single 3.7v P18650 configuration with a 1.7ohm atty with 60/40 juice and the amount of vapor is plentiful. WELL beyond that of the Blu which the OP stated was not enough. I threw in The Kick with an 18500 IMR and cranked it to 10W earlier just for the hell of it and damn near passed out...had to turn it down. What the hell does a noob need with 6v+?!

3.7v + 1.7ohm = 8.05W
6.0v + 4.5ohm = 8.00W

As you can see, with the suggested ohm atty for 6v, the power delivered to the coil is identical to a much safer configuration. If you go the IMR route (higher safe amperage draw) and switch to a 3.0 (1.5) or 3.2 (1.6) ohm DCC, you can rival the wattage and thus vapor production of even 7.4v without the added danger of stacking.

One of the major problems I see with suggesting stacking to noobs besides the fact that they are not likely to be checking the voltage of the batts religiously is this:

Who wants to bet a noob would stack 2x 4.2v unprotected Li-Ionn batts fresh of the charger using the same 1.5ohm DCCs he's heard so many good things about on ECF instantly running 5.60A @ 47.04W through his PV/batts? That's a recipe for disaster.



OP: My recommendation to you is to stick with a single high capacity battery PV with low resistance coils and a higher ratio of VG to PG juice.

I personally use a Megalodon with a single AW 18650 IMR or Protected 18650 battery and Smok Tech Mega Dual Coil Cartomizers on a regular basis with extremely favorable results.

Please steer clear of stacking until you feel you are fully informed on the dangers and the steps you need to take to lower the risk.

 

[Gomtuu]

@Cloud Wizard: Congrats, Wizard! Are you, like me, wondering why it took you so long to get to personal vaporizers?

I smoked a pack and a half of American Spirit Blues a day for the last few years, and before that it was a bag of Bali Shag Blue a day for at least a decade. I used to smoke a can a week of that stuff, which was cheaper than pre-rolled smokes, but no healthier, I'm sure.

I don't know about you, but for me two months without a cigarette is pretty impressive. I probably haven't broken even financially yet either, but I hope to get there soon. I know that the most important aspect of quitting tobacco is the lack of evil junk in your body, but it's hard to not think about the money part, as well. If you're using e-liquid instead of pre-filled cartomizers, I bet you'll be at that money-saving point any second now.

 

[Gomtuu]

@Flying W: Whoa, that thing looks like a German expressionist door/harp! Either the links aren't working, or I don't know how to click a mouse, but what is that battery called?!

I'm seriously considering using mostly or all VG, because I have a few concerns about PG, and on the more immediate tip: I just want clouds of vapor.

Thanks for your input!