New here and having issues with vaping

[dmwalker24]

This thread is like the perfect snapshot of why I love these forums. Someone has an issue and immediately there are polite helpful posts with great information and even those attempting to give advice are gracious with each other.

On topic though I get some serious sinus condensation with high VG juices which can be quite annoying like having a cold with a runny nose, but it has never made me short of breath. Maybe my lungs are just happy it isn't tar.

 

[Nimaz]

I am not sure this will help but... Cigarettes are not such a bad thing, like wine when it's used occasionally and reasonably it can be beneficial. It may take decades of relatively heavy smoking to get sick... One or two glass of wine even daily is excellent for the heath. It all depends what you mean by occasionally and if you can stick with such pattern. I know now that I cannot so I am drinking very occasionally (rarely reasonably) and I am vaping instead.

 

[AndriaD]

This thread is like the perfect snapshot of why I love these forums. Someone has an issue and immediately there are polite helpful posts with great information and even those attempting to give advice are gracious with each other.

On topic though I get some serious sinus condensation with high VG juices which can be quite annoying like having a cold with a runny nose, but it has never made me short of breath. Maybe my lungs are just happy it isn't tar.

Yeah, the problems with VG are somewhat less common, but there definitely are some of us who just can't handle much of it; there are even more who find PG so irritating that they can't vape it at all -- fortunately, I don't think I've yet seen anyone who can't find some compromise between them, even though there may be a few like me who have to basically balance on a knife edge between irritation and breathing problems.

It's really a perfect illustration of how vaping really isn't, and can't be, a "one size fits all" solution, no matter what stupid ideas our gov't may have in that direction. Just look how many brands of cigarettes there are! And they all do the same thing! Millions and millions of people smoke, probably for many different reasons, and quitting it seems to have just as many reasons, and just as many ways of making it happen -- vaping is just one of those ways, even if it's the most effective -- and maybe it's the most effective because not only does it approximate many of the sensations and behaviors of smoking, but it can be tailored so personally, for each person's comfort and satisfaction.

Our benighted gov't is never going to be able to understand something so personal and so complex.

Andria

 

[jaba62]

I do 50/50 now, used to do 80vg/20pg. Got the same heaviness in my chest. much better with 50/50. I don't sub-ohm, so 45w would be way too high for me.

 

[Mattster]

Quite happy with the responses I got out of this forum. Very imformative and got me the answer I needed.
Still today my lungs feel great. Not winded even the slightest bit and lovin the .... out my root beer flavour juice. Damn it's tasty!

 

[BreadVape]

To be honest I think there's an art to how to vape rather than when you smoke cigarettes, when I started vaping a couple of friends who had tried it but not liked it because they were winded was because they weren't inhaling correctly, as has been said it is different to how you would puff on a cigarette, also start low.....I had to start on about 30w and after 2 months I'm now up to 70-80w, your lungs need to acclimatise to vaping rather than smokin

 

[BreadVape]

Oh and another thing I found that more pg gave you more of a "throat hit" but I do agree that more vg does make the vapour thicker, personally I enjoy the thicker stuff and it only becomes uncomfortable when I have had a day of heavy vaping, some flavours will even make me wheeze by the evening

 

[AndriaD]

To be honest I think there's an art to how to vape rather than when you smoke cigarettes, when I started vaping a couple of friends who had tried it but not liked it because they were winded was because they weren't inhaling correctly, as has been said it is different to how you would puff on a cigarette, also start low.....I had to start on about 30w and after 2 months I'm now up to 70-80w, your lungs need to acclimatise to vaping rather than smokin

Umm... 30w is not "low".... I've never vaped over 10.5w since I started vaping in early 2014. Normally I vape at 9w, and there are plenty who vape at 6-7-8 watts. THAT is "low".

Andria

 

[BreadVape]

Umm... 30w is not "low".... I've never vaped over 10.5w since I started vaping in early 2014. Normally I vape at 9w, and there are plenty who vape at 6-7-8 watts. THAT is "low".

Andria

Ahh I didn't realise, everyone's different I suppose, personally I don't really get anything from going so low so I just assumed 30w was pretty low in itself, I must admit I'm still learning maybe it's just because I used to be a heavy smoker which is why to me 30w is low.....but it's good to know so thanks for clearing that up

 

[Mattster]

The vape that comes out with my 50/50 is just as thick as straight VG.
I'm comfortable at 30 watts right now. No issues even with a huge hit.

 

[David Wolf]

Your correct about vg being thicker thus taking longer for the lungs to eliminate it.
But,
Propylene glycol is known as ahygroscopic substance, a substance that absorbs and holds in water molecules, preventing them from being absorbed by the body. This is the reason vapers complain of being thirsty all the time, or of having dry mouth, and even the cause of dark circles under the eyes.

Yes. But that's not "winded" or tight chest or short of breath, those symptoms are more likely caused by high vg unless someone has a true allergy to pg which is possible.

 

[David Wolf]

So I got some different e juice a 50/50 PG VG blend and turned my watts down a bit. So far it's night and day difference. Way smoother. No coughing and so far not winded at all.

Consider trying 70pg/30vg or even higher pg if you continue to have issues, you were vaping 100% vg and obviously high vg doesn't suit you like it doesn't some of us.

 

[AndriaD]

Yes. But that's not "winded" or tight chest or short of breath, those symptoms are more likely caused by high vg unless someone has a true allergy to pg which is possible.

I had a lot of problems in 2014 with dehydration so bad my electrolytes got completely wonky (swollen ankles and painful swollen feet), had a big thread about that, and several of us were doing a lot of reading on the subject -- VG is just as hygroscopic as PG; it's the hygroscopic nature of both that makes them suitable for vaping, they draw moisture from our mucosa, or just the air itself, to make visible vapor -- but as I mentioned, VG has pretty good emollient properties, which makes it a good addition to lotions and moisturizing soaps and the like, and because of that, you don't notice the drying effect on your mucosa as much, so it's not as irritating. But as thick as it is, some of us just can't be breathing much of it, or it really plays hell with breathing. I tried diluting it with distilled water, which does help, but the water makes the vape pop a lot, which I find really unpleasant, so I just stick with high PG.

Andria

 

[Two_Bears]

Hey all from kelowna BC here. I'm new to vaping on my new mod that I just bought which is a Joytech Evic VTC. I used to smoke cigs occasionally mostly after a couple of drinks and usually a only one max two. So I wanted to vape instead for healthier living and smoke tricks.
Here's my issue. I've used the thing off and on for three days and I'm so bloody winded even from the smallest thing it's ridiculous. I've never had this before even after cigarettes. I'm no nicotine running 0mg's even. Is this coincidence or ... is going on?

What flavor is your ejuice. Is if a creamy or butterscotch flavor? Some juicd makers add Dyectl (SP) to get creamy buttery flavors.. This stuff is bad news for lungs.

If you are feeling winded you may have the wattage turned way too high and the vapor us so dense your lungs may have problems getting rid of the VG and PG.

A lot of people on you tube lime to make it look like people aren't a Vaper unless they are vaping at 80 watts.

I have been vaping Thick high VG JUICES like 70/30 or even 80/20, and I rarely ever go over 20 watts.

 

[Two_Bears]

I am not sure this will help but... Cigarettes are not such a bad thing, like wine when it's used occasionally and reasonably it can be beneficial. It may take decades of relatively heavy smoking to get sick... One or two glass of wine even daily is excellent for the heath. It all depends what you mean by occasionally and if you can stick with such pattern. I know now that I cannot so I am drinking very occasionally (rarely reasonably) and I am vaping instead.

Cigarettes not a bad thing? About 7,000 chemicals in cigarette smoke and most of them are carcinogens. Look up thr potassium nitrate effects on the lungs. Look up carbon monoxide.

I can't wait till I get to 0 nic.

 

[AndriaD]

I have to say that hearing someone is having problems breathing when they've been vaping 100% VG, and then thinking it's because of diacetyl, is like hearing hoofbeats and thinking "zebras" instead of "horses."

There is no proof whatever that diacetyl in ejuice is a hazard to anyone, considering that cigarettes have a ton more of it than any ejuice on the market. However many people do have breathing issues with high VG.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

Cigarettes not a bad thing? About 7,000 chemicals in cigarette smoke and most of them are carcinogens. Look up thr potassium nitrate effects on the lungs. Look up carbon monoxide.

I can't wait till I get to 0 nic.

Nicotine is probably the least offensive chemical in cigarettes... or even in vaping.

Andria

 

[Two_Bears]

I have to say that hearing someone is having problems breathing when they've been vaping 100% VG, and then thinking it's because of diacetyl, is like hearing hoofbeats and thinking "zebras" instead of "horses."

There is no proof whatever that diacetyl in ejuice is a hazard to anyone, considering that cigarettes have a ton more of it than any ejuice on the market. However many people do have breathing issues with high VG.

Andria

Diecytl is bad for the lungs.

Just bringing up possibilities.

 

[Two_Bears]

Nicotine is probably the least offensive chemical in cigarettes... or even in vaping.

Andria

Completely agree.

It all depends on the amount of nicotine. Nic in cigarettes is no more harmful than a cup of coffee in the morning.

Pure nicotine is a poison.

 

[AndriaD]

Diecytl is bad for the lungs.

Just bringing up possibilities.

"Diacetyl" may or may not be "bad for the lungs" -- there is no absolute proof of it, period -- only associations. Some of us may abstain from using liquids that contain it, for various reasons -- which may or may not have anything at all to do with its actual effect, or lack thereof.

But to throw diacetyl into the mix, when someone is clearly having quite-characteristic problems with 100% VG, is simply not warranted, and is totally irrelevant. It's like saying that sugar is bad for your teeth, when someone has athlete's foot.

Andria