New in to E - Cigarretes

[AJYURH]

"New into E - Cigarretes"

Hi, i was wondering if u guys could help me.

I want to buy a electronic cigarrete(my first one), but i do not know wich one, i want a cigarrete that can be refilled trough drops, black, normal cigarrete size, usb recharger and, if possible, not too expansive, do you guys have any sugestions? by the way, i live in brazil, so i need one site that have shipping to here

thx for the help.

 

[dormouse]

Joye 510 is the smallest decent ecigarette. Small though so it is short battery life like all other small ecigs. The standard Joye 510 battery is 180mah so about 2 hours of moderate vaping, less if vaped heavily, more if vaped less often.

It is a bit thicker than a cigarette. I use it with Boge cartomizer blanks. recommend you choose MANUAL batteries - sealed on the threaded end so they are hard to kill with juice leaks, Won't turn on accidentally from wind or vibration. More control of your hit.

Boge cartomizer blanks (standard resistance is needed for 510) would be an added continuing expense if you decide to use them. If I use thin eliquid a Boge will last a week or more if I keep it damp.

Can you get Boge cartomizers in your country? If not then you could use the 510 with the atomizers and carts that come with the 510. If you buy a kit you need at least 2 batteries, 2 atomizers, one charger for each place you want to charge (I have a charger at work and at home). And juice and a pack of cartridges.

 

[jj2]

Gave up on normal size a long time ago but I'm sure you will get some great suggestions.
Just wanted to say hi and welcome.

 

[wv2win]

Rule of Thumb: the more it looks like the real thing, the worse the performance.

Liberty Flights ships everywhere from what I've been told. I would suggest you get a PV (personal vapoizer) with a little larger battery so you won't be too frustrated with short battery life. The Riva 510 or 901 is the size of a slim cigar:

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Riva 510

And I would suggest starting out with some 24mg nicotine strength eliquid.

Good Luck

 

[txtumbleweed]

If I was going to buy a small PV it would be the volt from smokeless image. They have an awesome automatic battery and very good cartos that don't leak so there isn't any problem with leaking into the battery. They are not turned on by wind or vibrations.

 

[earthpig]

Volt is a KR808D-1 and a very good unit (at least the model is,,,cant speak for the country).
Their batteries are superior to a 510, but the cartomizers are better in 510 format..

Both excellent choices.
I've used and sold both for a year now.
I don't like the bigger units and will remain with cig size. The automatics can be held in the mouth like a cig and vaped hands free , but they are heavier than a cig. Can't possibly do that with a cigar sized unit.

Oh, and all cartomizers will leak if overfilled. Beauty is they leak very little if at all if filled right.

 

[unsure]

Rule of Thumb: the more it looks like the real thing, the worse the performance.

A excellent rule of thumb.

 

[AJYURH]

Thx a lot guys, plz continue giving me sugestions, up to right now i am more tempted to the Joye 510 one, i do not intend to stay away from a source of power for too long, so the battery is not exactly a problem, i want one with a good visual and a good efect, i am not exactly addicted to tobbaco, i smoke i few cigarretes a little while ago and then when i wanted to stop i just keep wanting then, all i want is something to keep my mouth busy, i not even sure if i will use the nicotina refil.

on another words:

i want a cig size, dont care about the weight and easy to refil trough dropping, and plz continue to reply me, u guys are helping a lot ^^ Ps: i really liked the joye 510 so if u guys know of any more or less like him, sugest me, if possible send also a link of where i can buy

Thx again

 

[earthpig]

Ypou either want a cig size or you don't.
Don't fall for the bigger is better routine.
With a 510 dual coil, I can vape em out unless they are running high volts, and fancy equipment.
One thing for sure, a cig size set up right will throw more vapor than a cig can throw smoke. Plain and simple.

 

[swedishfish]

Thx a lot guys, plz continue giving me sugestions, up to right now i am more tempted to the Joye 510 one, i do not intend to stay away from a source of power for too long, so the battery is not exactly a problem, i want one with a good visual and a good efect, i am not exactly addicted to tobbaco, i smoke i few cigarretes a little while ago and then when i wanted to stop i just keep wanting then, all i want is something to keep my mouth busy, i not even sure if i will use the nicotina refil.

on another words:

i want a cig size, dont care about the weight and easy to refil trough dropping, and plz continue to reply me, u guys are helping a lot ^^ Ps: i really liked the joye 510 so if u guys know of any more or less like him, sugest me, if possible send also a link of where i can buy

Thx again

The 510 is a great pv if you don't care about battery length.

wv2win posted a link to Liberty Flights. Click on the 20% discount code. I'd get an extra battery or a pcc and a box of Boge cartomizers. They are much easier to use than the carts/atty. You will also need at least 30 ml of juice to start. I'd get sample sizes or small sizes in different nicotine levels. I'd order from a juice vendor.

Vapor Bomb ships intl. and you can chose nicotine level and pg/vg ratio

VaporBomb.com

 

[Saintscruiser]

I have a Joye 510 and I'm happy with it, however I do go through 4 changes of batteries a day. I got all of mine at Cignot.com. Since I'm disabled, it's no big deal to change the battery. I have one for the computer and a wall battery charger. The important thing to remember is to get extra batteries....just a couple. That way, you'll never run out of charged batteries. You will be drinking more fluids as vaping kind of dries you out, but that's no big deal unless you are crossing the Sahara Desert.

I wish you well!

 

[earthpig]

In the 510's, you can also get the longer batteries (same diameter) which have a ~100mah more power, and will last a good 1/3 longer in time. I use both lengths
I also use KR808D-1's and they seem to last longer than the 510's and put out a slight bit higher voltage as well (1/2v higher)

Both are fine units, and meet my "cig size" requirements.
I carry 6 to 8 with me, and never run short. All 8 with carto's attached take less space than a pack of cigs but a shade longer.

 

[MattZuke]

i want a cig size, dont care about the weight and easy to refil trough dropping, and plz continue to reply me, u guys are helping a lot ^^ Ps: i really liked the joye 510 so if u guys know of any more or less like him, sugest me, if possible send also a link of where i can buy

As long as you accept the reality of the situation, groovy. A joye 510 is typically 180mAh to 280mah. If you burn though 900mAh/day this represents 5 to 3.2 charge cycles. You're limit is going to be about 300 charge cycles/battery, thus a battery every 2-3 months.

Supermini l88/306 ~ $10/month + in cost
Mini 510 / KR808D ~ $4.80-$5/month + in cost
Riva 510 eGo style ~ $2.75/month including in cost
E-power ego / NoEgo 1050 mAh ~ $2.14/month for 700 days, 52c/month each additional including the in cost.

It doesn't sound like you're in the 900mAh/day class.

I'm not sure what you mean by good visual effect. Looks like a cig, or looks stylish.

Liberty Flights Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Joye 510 is a good option for a 510

Vapor4life.com has some very good options for KR808D-1 that are quite stylish. The 808 typically uses cartomizers, which can be refilled. They are a little thicker than the 510, but still mini sized.

 

[earthpig]

For me it's size, not style.
I don't like big and bulky. The 510's and KR808D-1's are actually heavier and larger than I prefer, but workable over a few smaller units out there.
But from a style standpoint, some of the 510's I own are downright beautiful in finish (808's as well). One has a red/maroon finish and is very well done. High quality paint. Another is a high quality gold, but they (at least from my supplier) come in 8 colors. Even the metallic and black aren't bad. I gravitate to the red/maroon.
And I pay $9.00 for them , retail.

I hear they are mistaken for real cigs quite often. Never had that happen, unless I use a white battery with a red light, and I vape everywhere and often.

It comes down to choice. I personally don't like button power and would rather (on occasion) hang it in my mouth hands free when I'm busy with my hands like now. Bulk is also annoying to me.

Now, don't get me wrong. I LOVE all the differing and large models, as well as Mods. They're GREAT!. Just not practical for me personally. And I'm not new to the game. Been at it for a year, and even sold em for a living for 6 months (including I-Go type units for 808's)
90% of all sales were cig sized. It's what the general public is comfortable with, and some complain "It's not as light and thin as my Virginia Slims !" ( I don't know how many times I've heard that and similar complaints).

Just sayin.
Even the cost is incidental, since the customers are coming from paying $6.oo+ for real cigs. So to them, the cost is a cake walk by comparison and a non issue and at $3.oo a carto they are thrilled., except for the initial hardware, (but we charge excessively for it).

Pig

 

[AJYURH]

Hello, first of all i want to say thanks for the tips, second i want to say that i've decided to buy the joye 510 after all...

only one more question, this website "http://www.liberty-flights.com" is really reliable? anyone here did buy something there already? anyone who's not from USA?

once again thanks

see ya ^^

 

[Rickajho]

Hey all

In support of this new member I did some google searching on ecf. I see a lot of posts from South America, and a lot of posts specifically coming from Brasil too. There are legislation issues, international shipping concerns, new suppliers trying to get businesses of the ground there... All with questions specific to South American issues. Isn't it time South America got a forum for support?

If it's already on ecf please excuse me - I couldn't find it.

Rick

 

[wv2win]

Hello, first of all i want to say thanks for the tips, second i want to say that i've decided to buy the joye 510 after all...

only one more question, this website "http://www.liberty-flights.com" is really reliable? anyone here did buy something there already? anyone who's not from USA?

once again thanks

see ya ^^

Liberty Flights is quite reliable and well supported on ECF. In my experience, they stand behind what they sell.

 

[stown]

If I was going to buy a small PV it would be the volt from smokeless image. They have an awesome automatic battery and very good cartos that don't leak so there isn't any problem with leaking into the battery. They are not turned on by wind or vibrations.

If you have not seen Steel Jan's review of the Volt, it's worth watching. I am sure it can be found here with a search. As a newbie, I am thinking of adding the Volt to my supplies.

 

[phonedude]

You have been given lots of good advice. I would just like to say hello and welcome.

Best wishes on you vaping journey.

 

[tmcase]

Rule of Thumb: the more it looks like the real thing, the worse the performance.

Liberty Flights ships everywhere from what I've been told. I would suggest you get a PV (personal vapoizer) with a little larger battery so you won't be too frustrated with short battery life. The Riva 510 or 901 is the size of a slim cigar:

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Riva 510

And I would suggest starting out with some 24mg nicotine strength eliquid.

Good Luck

I love that rule of thumb title. It is SO true. I learned the hard way.