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tmcase

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Welcome to ECF. The 510 is a good choice but keep in mind that the batteries only last maybe a couple hours depending on how you vape. The extended battery version would be the best choice.

About Liberty Flights...there customer service is excellent and they ship fast. I would call or email them and ask about shipping to Brazil. They are very helpful and will probably respond to your email in less than 24 hrs.
 

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Rule of Thumb: the more it looks like the real thing, the worse the performance.

Liberty Flights ships everywhere from what I've been told. I would suggest you get a PV (personal vapoizer) with a little larger battery so you won't be too frustrated with short battery life. The Riva 510 or 901 is the size of a slim cigar:

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Riva 510

And I would suggest starting out with some 24mg nicotine strength eliquid.

Good Luck

This is not a rule. You may find you like a mod like that later but most are perfectly happy with smaller e-cigs for a while, and it helps with the transition. Rule of thumb: If someone makes a blanket statement on something that is an opinion, you dont need to listen.
 

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Joye 510 is the smallest decent ecigarette. Small though so it is short battery life like all other small ecigs. The standard Joye 510 battery is 180mah so about 2 hours of moderate vaping, less if vaped heavily, more if vaped less often.

It is a bit thicker than a cigarette. I use it with Boge cartomizer blanks. recommend you choose MANUAL batteries - sealed on the threaded end so they are hard to kill with juice leaks, Won't turn on accidentally from wind or vibration. More control of your hit.

Boge cartomizer blanks (standard resistance is needed for 510) would be an added continuing expense if you decide to use them. If I use thin eliquid a Boge will last a week or more if I keep it damp.

Can you get Boge cartomizers in your country? If not then you could use the 510 with the atomizers and carts that come with the 510. If you buy a kit you need at least 2 batteries, 2 atomizers, one charger for each place you want to charge (I have a charger at work and at home). And juice and a pack of cartridges.

I second this recommendation- I have had this model for a few days and love it so far, it's been great battery-wise but then again, I don't smoke it a whole lot, just when I have cravings- and that's one lonnnnnnggggg drag, then i'm good.

510 Manual Battery Carto Kit

Pretty small in size, but good enough to pass for a pen if it's something you'd need to be descrete about, lol. JK but it's small enough to fit in the pocket anyhow. Sample juice is great, takes some getting used to, but has good enough kick to curb cravings. By the way i was a 5x a day cig smoker so that gives you an idea of how far they go with kicks.

Good luck finding something.
 

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Here's a rule of thumb that's true: You ask a question like "Which e-cig should I get?", you're going to get a LOT of opinions. :)

And, as opinions, none of them are wrong... or, necessarily, right for you.

The problem with the "field" of vaping gear/hardware is that there's so much of it that it's hard to make the best first choice for you on your own... And everyone who currently uses any of it will point up what's great about the stuff they're using, so you will hear good things from someone about everything that's out there. Which puts you right back at square one.

A lot of us have been on that bandwagon. I started out with a mid-range 510 "mod" (battery module for 510 atomizers/cartomizers), picked up another mid-range 510 mod, picked up some 510 cig-style batteries, shifted to tank systems and have recently tried both Bloog and Volt (and there are others who sell pretty much the same systems un-branded or as house brands), thus managing to squeeze about a year's worth of experience (and cost!) into a month-and-a-half.

All of these systems were different. And all of these systems worked. But some worked better for me than others.

I have to admit, had I known about the Bloog/Volt systems (relatively recently re-engineered 808 batteries and cartomizers) and happened to buy those first, I probably would have tried one mod just to see what it was like, but gone back, saved a LOT of money and not have so much gear floating around. Oh, I'll use up my remaining 510 cartomizers and use Bloog/Volt cartomizers with adapters for the 510 batteries until they're dead, and after that probably stick with Bloog/Volt for a while (or at least until the next greatest-vape-on-the-planet comes out). The gear won't go to waste and I don't really regret anything, but it's been a more expensive trip than it needed to be.

Since I've got your ear/eyes, here's my opinion: Start with a system like a Bloog or Volt kit. It may or may not be "the best" but it's very good and very simple. DO get a kit with a PCC (charging case for the batteries for when out & about), get a couple of spare batteries and extra sample packs of cartomizer flavors (tobacco and non-tobacco flavors).

Don't be in a rush to get off cigs just yet. Find the carto flavors you like first, then order at least a couple of carto 5-packs of each of your favorites. Once they arrive start your transition. Figure on going through 2 to 4 cartos a day at first, then tweak that based on your actual use.

During the switch to vaping, filling cartos can seem labor-intensive compared to what you're used to (grabbing a pack & a lighter). If you start with just pre-filled cartos, you eliminate a big part of the learning curve -- just screw on a new carto as you use them up (but save old cartos in a zip-lock, don't throw them away, yet). That makes it bit more expensive perhaps, but probably no more than smoking is, and increasing ease-of-use and reducing the learning curve is critical, IMO.

After a couple of weeks or whenever you're nice and comfy with the concepts, you may have quit smoking cigs completely (!) and might become interested in saving a bit over pre-filled cartos and trying new flavors. At this point it's less overwhelming and you're ready to learn more... So look into some e-liquids and learn to clean and refill your old cartomizers (you did keep them, right?).

And really, if you're happy with your experience that may be as far as you have to go. Good, simple, well-engineered two-piece systems like Bloog/Volt may be your "good enough".

After that, if you want to get into vaping as bit more of a hobby, is the time to explore some "mods" and such. But trust me, not all mods guarantee anything better... Though to avoid seeming anti-mod, I MUST note that many can and do provide a great vaping experience, when used properly (see references to "learning curve" above).

Jumping from system to system early on can be exciting! But it can also make vaping more expensive and/or more difficult than it has to be. And it isn't necessarily going to find the magic bullet right away... and it can end up as quite a hit to the wallet... But it's all up to you and how you manage it.

Regardless of which way you jump, the single real piece of advice I think we can all agree on is to jump! Seriously, just do it -- any move is better than not moving at all. Be patient, give it time, do research THEN ask questions, and don't give up. The switch to vaping is definitely worth it.

Welcome to the Vaptrix. :)
 
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This is not a rule. You may find you like a mod like that later but most are perfectly happy with smaller e-cigs for a while, and it helps with the transition. Rule of thumb: If someone makes a blanket statement on something that is an opinion, you dont need to listen.

Maybe you should try "reading" more or possibly expanding your education so you could actually understand what a "Rule of Thumb" means before you type. It definitely does not mean: "blanket statement" that covers all possibilities.

For some, a small, weak, inconsistent, auto battery analog sized PV may be needed to first try vaping due to the belief that appearance is more important that function. Unfortunately for many, they assume that all PV's function the same and when they get frustrated that their analog PV is not capable of simulating a full bodied cigarette, they go back to smoking. I would rather a new vaper try one that better simulates the "inhaled feel" of an analog and then step "down" to a smaller one if that is what they prefer than get too frustrated with a mini PV and give up.
 
Vapian
Good common sense post.
I especially appreciate the KISS Method thinking (Keep It Simple, Stupid).
2 piece w/prefilled is about as easy as it gets, and may not always meet the needs but you find out as you go. Not enough battery life? We find out as we go, and stock up with more batteries if that's the direction we want to go. Price on using a basic 2 piece w/prefilled is about 1/2 of what cigs are after a few weeks (at least around here) of paying off equipment.
We don't come from complexity. At least most do not. Most didn't "roll their own" so messing with stuff can be frustrating as well as discouraging.

I like your methodology.

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The Riva 510 - Special Edition is a great set up from Liberty Flights and you can get it for 20% off,[/URL] Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Riva 510. Scroll down the page a little to find it. You get 2 PV's so one battery can be charging. I've ordered 2 of these and their customer phone support is fabulous.
 

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Liberty Flights is quite reliable and well supported on ECF. In my experience, they stand behind what they sell.

I ordered a Riva 510 SE kit and forgot to hit the 20% discount. I emailed my mistake in ordering and Abe immediately gave me credit of $10 towards my next order. Two hours later I was contacted by Ty to see if he could help. They are on top of things and very customer oriented.
 
The 510 is a great start. You can drip or use carts , almost every website sells kits or parts for them so they remain affordable and competitive. You should never be without options with this choice.
I would also recommend as other members did , to purchase more than you think you need. I have had batteries die on me and have upped my usage of analogs while waiting for new bats or carts. I also like having a charger with me at all times - car, USB,wall and Pcc. Good luck in your search
 

AJYURH

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Sorry Guys, Reaally sorry for my abscence.

okay the thing is, if made my mind into buying a joey 510, but that site u gave me(libert flights) no longer have those in stock, do you guys know when they will re-stock it?

anyway thx for all the answers, an d i hope i doing the best choise with the joye 510, btw wich is the difference between joye 510 and joye 510-t?

once again thx a lot, i will gave you guys one other when i start hitting :vapor: ( i not saying that my next one will be when i start hitting ok^^)
 

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The difference is the 510-t has a tank atomizer and small tanks that you fill with juice and place on your atomizers. Then you place the atomizer & tank on your battery. (3 piece)

A standard 510 usually comes with cartridges and an atomizers. Inside the cartridge is a small piece of filling. You drip juice on this and place it back in the cartridge and attach it to your atomizer. (3 piece)

You can also purchase cartomizers- a cartridge and atomizer already combined. You remove the end cap, drip juice inside and place it on your battery. Less messy and holds more juice.

Because the tank has a tendency to leak and needs to be cleaned and adjusted, I recommend new people just try the 510 (or Ego- even better) with cartomizers first and adjust to vaping. Then at a later time you can always buy the tank and tank atomizer.
 
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