New Liquid Causes Short

[Psycho67]

Hi,

I've been vaping for a few months now. Recently I purchased a new liquid. At the shop they told me that it had a higher VG/PG ratio. Whenever I load it into my 1.5 ohm KangerTech clearomizer, it seems to cause a short with my Vision Spinner II battery. I've tried it with two different coils, both seem to have this problem. I switched back to my old liquid with a third new coil, and it works perfectly. Why could this new liquid be causing me these problems?

I'd like to get to the bottom of this. The new liquid cost me a good amount and has a killer mountain dew flavor, really don't want it to go to waste.

Thanks!

 

[InTheShade]

Welcome to the forum Psycho67.

I feel your frustration, getting a new liquid that doesn't work right is the worst.

Thing is, an e-liquid cannot cause a short - even if it was as thick as ice cream. It could cause dry scratchy burnt hits, but not a short.

When you say a short, can you describe what behavior you are getting from the battery please?

 

[EBates]

Welcome aboard

 

[Psycho67]

Welcome to the forum Psycho67.

I feel your frustration, getting a new liquid that doesn't work right is the worst.

Thing is, an e-liquid cannot cause a short - even if it was as thick as ice cream. It could cause dry scratchy burnt hits, but not a short.

When you say a short, can you describe what behavior you are getting from the battery please?

When I vape with the Spinner battery, the indicator light remains illuminated white which indicates >60% charge remaining. When I attempt to vape the new liquid, it illuminates white for less than one second before flashing a violet color and shuts off. According to the owner's manual, this occurs as a result of a short circuit prevention mechanism.

I'm currently vaping the old liquid with no problems. If you require more information, I will switch the liquid momentarily and attempt to troubleshoot the problem.

 

[InTheShade]

Thanks for the great description.

OK, so it has to be something else, because I can categorically say it's not the e-liquid. Well, I suppose if the e-liquid is conducting electricity then it's possible... but, nah, it's not the liquid.

So more questions, let's try to figure this out for you with a process of elimination.

The topper (or atomizer) that the e-liquid is in, have you used that successfully with another e-liquid since it started behaving this way with your new e-liquid?

Have you tried this topper and e-liquid combination on another battery and had the same behavior?

 

[MrStik]

try your old juice on one of the coils that you tried the new juice on. If it doesn't work, then the coils may be bad.

 

[lamarrk]

Definitely sounds like a blown coil. Replace the coil (or put the juice into a new coil) and give it a try.


ETA: Or the coil you have may be sub-ohm and won't fire on the batteries you have.

 

[Psycho67]

Thanks for the great description.

OK, so it has to be something else, because I can categorically say it's not the e-liquid. Well, I suppose if the e-liquid is conducting electricity then it's possible... but, nah, it's not the liquid.

So more questions, let's try to figure this out for you with a process of elimination.

The topper (or atomizer) that the e-liquid is in, have you used that successfully with another e-liquid since it started behaving this way with your new e-liquid?

Have you tried this topper and e-liquid combination on another battery and had the same behavior?

I'm currently using the same topper with my old e-liquid with a new coil.

I have not attempted using the topper and e-liquid combination on another battery because I only own one battery right now.

try your old juice on one of the coils that you tried the new juice on. If it doesn't work, then the coils may be bad.

I haven't tried the old juice on one of the coils that I've tried the new juice on; I've simply replaced the coil after each failed attempt. I've currently got a new coil working with the old liquid though, so I might try the new liquid with a coil that I know works. I'll do this and report the results.

 

[Psycho67]

I haven't tried the old juice on one of the coils that I've tried the new juice on; I've simply replaced the coil after each failed attempt. I've currently got a new coil working with the old liquid though, so I might try the new liquid with a coil that I know works. I'll do this and report the results.

I am currently using a coil that has worked with the old liquid with the new liquid. The new liquid seems to be working just fine now, leading me to believe that I had two bad coils in a row before finding a coil that works. How could it be that two brand new coils didn't work with the new fluid and a third finally works? Is it possible that I didn't give the liquid enough time to soak the coil before vaping? VG is thicker, so would VG need more time to soak into the coil before firing, and would firing before the coil is completely saturated cause a short?

 

[MrStik]

I am currently using a coil that has worked with the old liquid with the new liquid. The new liquid seems to be working just fine now, leading me to believe that I had two bad coils in a row before finding a coil that works. How could it be that two brand new coils didn't work with the new fluid and a third finally works? Is it possible that I didn't give the liquid enough time to soak the coil before vaping? VG is thicker, so would VG need more time to soak into the coil before firing, and would firing before the coil is completely saturated cause a short?

That would seem odd. Try cleaning out those 2 coils and priming them up with again and see what happens. You may even try thinner juice first and see what happens.

 

[sharpie24l]

Its just really crappy luck honestly sometimes coils are hit or miss. I've had two occasions where back to back coils were bad right out of the package. Something to check is on those coils look at the bottom of the coil itself and see if there is a metal leg sticking out of the rubber grommet at the bottom. If its sticking out too far it can be causing a short. Other than that I'd buy coils elsewhere if that continues to be a problem.

 

[SupplyDaddy]

I am currently using a coil that has worked with the old liquid with the new liquid. The new liquid seems to be working just fine now, leading me to believe that I had two bad coils in a row before finding a coil that works. How could it be that two brand new coils didn't work with the new fluid and a third finally works? Is it possible that I didn't give the liquid enough time to soak the coil before vaping? VG is thicker, so would VG need more time to soak into the coil before firing, and would firing before the coil is completely saturated cause a short?

Quality Control in China (where your coils were no doubt made) is questionable at all times. But then again, you're talking about an item about the size of a dime with 2 to 4 wire ends sticking into and through an insulator and 2 pieces of metal. A slight over-pressure of the twist onto the top of a battery system could be all that is needed to mess the deal up.

 

[InTheShade]

I am currently using a coil that has worked with the old liquid with the new liquid. The new liquid seems to be working just fine now, leading me to believe that I had two bad coils in a row before finding a coil that works. How could it be that two brand new coils didn't work with the new fluid and a third finally works? Is it possible that I didn't give the liquid enough time to soak the coil before vaping? VG is thicker, so would VG need more time to soak into the coil before firing, and would firing before the coil is completely saturated cause a short?

As SD said, it's the luck of the draw. Coil heads have notoriously poor quality control and getting two in a row that are bad is not unheard of - if that is indeed what happened. Try them again after giving them a rinse in hot water, reinstall and make sure everything is snugged down but not too tight to your battery.

I'd also go with maybe finding another vendor to buy from if they turn out to be bad.

Firing before the coil is saturated will not cause a short. It will cause a dry scratchy 'dry hit' but will not damage the coil itself in any way. As your coil is wicked silica, it wouldn't damage the wicking either.

Glad you got it to work, sucks if you had two bad coils in a row...

 

[skoony]

depending on how old your spinner is they along with older ego's
were very touchy below 2 ohms even though they were rated to go lower.
regards
mike