New Member Here and I Brought Some Questions...

[Cat_in_the_Playground]

AAARGGh! I typed up this whole response but when I went to post it the forum was too busy and it deleted my whole message. *sigh*

I am so glad that I'm not the only one that this was happening to late last night (err, early this morning??? LOL) It was driving me batty!

 

[Cat_in_the_Playground]

Thanks for the info...I wish I could find out for SURE if the one I have is the KR808. Guess I may just have to do it by trial/error and order cartomizers that are compatible with the 808 and see if it works.

I take it that the 510 is the most popular and highest recommended? KR808 is second?

Can you refer a respectable website that sells the 510? There have been a few sites posted in this thread already, but being new to this whole thing it still seems foreign...I'm sure I'll eventually get it all down, though. LOL

If anyone didn't get the link to the main site of the one I bought, here it is again:
Cig2o.com
...maybe someone can look at it and understand something I wouldn't be able to and be able to tell me if it is indeed the 808.

It seems like the one you have is a KR808D1. I would place a small order and make sure the items you order are compatible. I think MyVaporStore.com has great prices. Definitely cheaper than Vapor4Life. They have great customer service as well. You can purchase a manual battery for $10.95, a pass through for $12.99 and a 5 pack of cartomizers for $7.25. I have nothing against V4L - I have ordered from them before as well and they do have good customer service. But, given that MVS has excellent customer service and fast shipping as well, it comes down to price and MVS is much cheaper.

I started with a 510 model and then got my KR808. I still prefer my KR808, but I suppose it is just a matter of personal preference. If you want to try a 510, you can order a starter kit from MVS for $43.99 (which is high, IMO). But you can order a manual battery +USB charger (you can use the same USB AC adapter from your current ecig with it) and a pack of either cartomizers and/or and atomizer and cartridges for cheaper than their starter kit price.

From your description, you sound like you would prefer an automatic battery (that activates when you inhale). But, I highly recommend changing to a manual battery. They are less prone to problems, they are sealed (you don't have to worry about juice leaking into the battery and killing it) and you can kind of "pre-heat" the juice, which gives a better hit (instead of having to take a primer puff from an auto). When I ordered my first starter kit, I was able to order 1 auto and 1 manual - but I was convinced I would prefer the auto (wanting it to work like I was smoking a cigarette). My friend thought the same thing. But - with use, we both soon realized that hitting the button was not annoying, especially for the improved performance.

You can also get thread adapters so you can use a 510 cartomizer on an 808 battery and vice versa. They are typically quite inexpensive.

 

[Cat_in_the_Playground]

regarding the nicotine: Nicotine by itself (outside of tobacco use) is not significantly addictive. It's only when you use it with the tobacco products that it becomes extremely addictive. Even if you use a lot more nicotine when you start vaping, you will end up less addicted to it then you ever were before. This is just from my observations and personal experience over the last year of vaping and reading on ECF. Plus this: Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

quote:
"Technically, nicotine is not significantly addictive, as nicotine administered alone does not produce significant reinforcing properties. However, after coadministration with an MAOI, such as those found in tobacco, nicotine produces significant behavioral sensitization, a measure of addiction potential. This is similar in effect to amphetamine."

Thank you so much for sharing this. I had no idea! I think it helps explain why I had such a difficult time quitting analogs completely. My body was craving those extra chemicals that created those changes in my brain. There was a time when I was feeling like a failure for not being able to put down the analogs with the first use of my PV like it seems so many others were able to.

THX!

 

[Cat_in_the_Playground]

regarding the nicotine: Nicotine by itself (outside of tobacco use) is not significantly addictive. It's only when you use it with the tobacco products that it becomes extremely addictive. Even if you use a lot more nicotine when you start vaping, you will end up less addicted to it then you ever were before. This is just from my observations and personal experience over the last year of vaping and reading on ECF. Plus this: Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

quote:
"Technically, nicotine is not significantly addictive, as nicotine administered alone does not produce significant reinforcing properties. However, after coadministration with an MAOI, such as those found in tobacco, nicotine produces significant behavioral sensitization, a measure of addiction potential. This is similar in effect to amphetamine."

Rosa, thanks for sharing this! I had no idea! I think it helps explain why I had such a difficult time quitting analogs completely. My body was craving those extra chemicals that created those changes in my brain. There was a time when I was feeling like a failure for not being able to put down the analogs with the first use of my PV like it seems so many others were able to.

THX! (and the busy server just happened again to me when I tried to post this. Fortunately I saw it thinking for a long time and copied my message so I wouldn't have to retype it)

 

[Big Steve]

Alright, so if I have the 808 then I should be able to buy the following, right?

Cartomizers:
KR808D1- 5 Pack Cartomizer

Carry Charge Case:
KR808D1 Portable Charger Case (PCC)

Pass-thru adapter:
KR808D1 Manual USB Passthrough

And Cat, I'd definitely like to try the manual battery...is this the one you refer to:
KR808D1 Battery

I'll likely buy a little at a time just to make sure it IS compatible with mine. I actually may end returning my kit completely as it seems one of the batteries doesn't function properly. I REALLY have to suck on it to get anything out.

Thanks again, everyone, for all the advice!

 

[Cat_in_the_Playground]

Alright, so if I have the 808 then I should be able to buy the following, right?

Cartomizers:
KR808D1- 5 Pack Cartomizer

Carry Charge Case:
KR808D1 Portable Charger Case (PCC)

Pass-thru adapter:
KR808D1 Manual USB Passthrough

And Cat, I'd definitely like to try the manual battery...is this the one you refer to:
KR808D1 Battery

I'll likely buy a little at a time just to make sure it IS compatible with mine. I actually may end returning my kit completely as it seems one of the batteries doesn't function properly. I REALLY have to suck on it to get anything out.

Thanks again, everyone, for all the advice!

Those are all correct if you indeed have the KR808D1. The only thing to revisit is the cartomizer link. Those are pre-filled cartomizers - not the blank ones. If you want to order a bottle of juice and refill your own, you will need to order blank cartomizers with a bottle of juice. As far as Juice, from MVS, I have ordered the US made Cola, Tiramisu and Coffee espresso. The cola, I think is very good. The coffee espresso is too potent for me - way too heavy on the espresso. But- my friend loves it. The verdict is still out on the tiramisu - it tasted great using in a cartridge with my 510 atty (I have the adapter that lets you use 510 attys and cartomizers with an 808 battery - 510 supplies are not compatible with the 808 w/o an adapter). But when I loaded the tiramisu in a cartomizer, it tastes horrid. I'm thinking it might be a bum cartomizer b/c the taste is just SO bad, but it tasted SO good in the cartridge. So, that flavor is still up in the air.

If you decided to order a manual battery, blank cartomizers, juice and a pass through, you should be set if it is compatible with what you have.

To make you feel better about this order and the risk that it may not be compatible with your current ecig - If you find out that it is not compatible, you will still be able to use the 808 cartomizers with the pass through and the battery (assuming the one they send is fully charged) until it dies. The only additional item you would need to order is a USB charging cable and there you go - a fully functional KR808D1! And between the PT, the 5 cartomizers, juice and 1 battery, that should be enough to tide you over until you could get a USB charging cable. I happen to like the KR808 - I even prefer it to my 510.

If you are not sure that what you have is an 808 and are concerned about buying stuff, you might want to hold off on ordering the pcc. That is a more expensive accessory and if you definitely want to stay with the original model you bought, then this might be money down the drain (unless you love the KR808 and decided to go with that and ditch your original model). As others on the forum have stated, in todays electronic age, we're generally not very far from a power source. But, if you work out in the field and don't have access to power, then you might want to consider it.

I have two other options -
1) if you are not in a hurry to order supplies and you have enough to last you a week or so, I will mail you an old/dead cartomizer for the 808. You can see if it fits or not, then you'll have your answer as to whether what you have is a KR808D1 or not.
2) If you decide you just want to scrap the whole project of trying to match what you bought previously and go with a new starter kit, such as the 510. The one nice thing about the 510 as the starter kit is that it is one of the most common thread patterns. So, if you decide later you want bigger batteries, you can use all your 510 stuff with something like an eGo.

Hmmm. I think if I were in your position -
If you aren't in a hurry and really want to know if you have an 808 or not, wait for me to mail you a cartomizer and test it.
If you are like me and prefer instant gratification, I would go ahead an order the 808 supplies. Like I said, even worst case scenario if it isn't compatible, all you will need to have basically built your own KR808d1 starter kit is a USB charging cable - and the PT, the one charged battery and your original kit should be able to hold you over until it arrives.

If you are interested in having me send you an old 808 cartomizer, just send me a PM.

I really feel for people that purchase a starter kit and cannot figure out what model it is. I was fortunate that the rebranded 510 I bought (it was called a Vx2) said that it was a 510 on their website. I just got lucky. I thought I had done my research, but I really had not. I just got lucky. Hopefully you did too and ended up with an 808.

 

[Rosa]

My only caution: I've tasted both the V4L cartos and the MVS cartos. The V4L cartos taste good to me but the MVS cartos IMO are nasty tasting.

 

[Cat_in_the_Playground]

My only caution: I've tasted both the V4L cartos and the MVS cartos. The V4L cartos taste good to me but the MVS cartos IMO are nasty tasting.

I think I would agree that V4L cartos are better. But I've also had a V4L carto that wasn't good. Granted your odds of getting a dud are probably lower with V4L, but you can get duds from anyone. I have never ordered prefilled cartos from MVS - just the blanks. I know that the batteries I got from MVS were much better than the ones I got from V4L. I got my 808 PT from MVS -and it worked great until my cat chewed the cord into 7 pieces.

I think also putting myself in his position, not knowing, and my own tendancy for 1-stop-shopping, that is probably why I would say to go with MVS. But, that is my preference.

I am still relatively new to vaping and thought i would prefer the convenience of cartomizers - disposable, no cleaning (unless you want to - I tried and failed miserably, not one of them worked after that whole process), 1 piece, etc. But, now that I have had the cartomizers with my 510 and 808, I think i finally figured out I much prefer the taste of using an atty and cart. Especially my 510 atty on my 808 batt. After vaping that, all my cartos don't taste as good as that. ... but I digress...

 

[Cat_in_the_Playground]

I forgot to mention, if you do decide to order from MVS, enter "ECF5" for a 5% discount on your order. Not much, but it helps.

 

[Big Steve]

Just an update...I still haven't had a regular Cigarette since Sunday and I actually feel GREAT!

I've also ordered a manual battery and some cartomizers from one of the websites that I'm hoping to receive sometime early next week. Every now and then, when sucking on this auto e-cig, I seem to forget how to do it correctly; lol. Sometimes I'll be sucking in too hard and get a lot of air and plastic taste while other times I'll take a slow and soft inhale, the way it seems that it's supposed to be, and get too much vapor. I haven't quite balanced out the technique, I don't guess.....but, the important thing is, I haven't had a real cig!

 

[Cat_in_the_Playground]

Congrats Steve! It took me a while to quit analogs. About a month, month and a half. I wish I could have put them down as soon as I started vaping. I found that once I made it past the first week of just vaping that the cravings for analogs were much less.

And yes, it is just trial and error to find that sweet drag that gives just enough vapor, not too much air/ick taste. I hope you find that everything you ordered is compatible with what you have.

Happy vaping!

 

[Big Steve]

Well, I got my shipment in today from MyVaporStore.com...I'm glad to say that it works with the kit that I bought so, I'm assuming that means I have the 808. The cartomizers I bought work with the existing battery and the battery I bought works with my existing cartomizers and charger. I can now order some more cartomizers and accessories!

I bought the "Kamel" cartomizers and, while they produce a hell of a lot more vapor than the cartomizers I already have (store bought), the taste isn't quite as good. It's good enough to save $5 a package, though...but, I may end up trying some of the other cartomizers that they have.

I've actually gotten used to the automatic batteries and no longer have the problem I was having. That said, the manual battery that I ordered will end up being useless to me now

 

[Cat_in_the_Playground]

B. Steve ..

I'm happy to hear that everything was compatible with your previous kit. Always nice when things like that work out and you're not stuck w/useless supplies.

You might want to try with the manual battery. I started with autos - thinking I would like it, being more similar to an analog. But, as it turns out, I prefer the manual. Since the very process of vaping is different than smoking (drag wise - short, hard drag with analogs, vs a light, long, 3-5 sec drag when vaping), it was nice to be able to pre-heat the juice before starting my drag. It was just too annoying to have to do the primer puff on an auto battery. There are some autos out now that don't require the primer puff, but I still find the manuals and pre-heating seem to work better and provide a more satisfying vape. So, don't write off your manual battery just yet. Give it time with both and see how it goes.

I'm guessing you got pre-filled cartos. You might want to consider getting blanks and buying your own juice to (re)fill. It is a lot cheaper (IMO). I have cartos I have been using for more than 2 weeks by continuously topping them off. If I didn't have juice to top them off, I know I would dry vape several cartos dry in one day. If you don't like the juice that came in your pre-filled cartos, there are several methods to clean out your cartos so you can refill them with a new flavor juice. I have tried the boil and bake method and none of mine survived. But, there is a turkey baster/spin method that I'm going to try next.

I'm just glad everything worked with MVS. I have bought 3 juices from them. 1 I liked (cola) and 2 I didn't (coffee espresso and tiramisu. I thought they were way too heavy in espresso flavor, but my friend likes them). I would recommend getting some sample packs of juice to figure out what you like and what you don't. Velvet Vapors and FreedomSmokeUSA have nice small sample sizes available. I'm sure other companies do as well, but those are the only ones I have experience with. I love FSUSAs juices (any of their butterscotch flavored juices and RY4 are my favorites from them and Velvet Vanilla from Velvet Vapors).

Just glad to hear that everything worked out. I love my KR808d1 and hope you will love yours too! Happy vaping!

EDIT: I forgot to mention Vapor4Life (V4L). Their products are all KR808D1 as well and they have great customer service and most people love their juces. Their WOW cartos are excellent quality. While they do not have sample size juices, they do offer some sampler carto packs.

 

[MickeyRat]

I've actually gotten used to the automatic batteries and no longer have the problem I was having. That said, the manual battery that I ordered will end up being useless to me now

Probably not. Sooner or later, you're going to get tired either of the expense or the cost of those pre-filles cartos and get some liquid and start refilling. When you do you will eventually overfill and short out one of your auto batteries. The manual will come in handy then.

 

[badnam]

Thanks for the info...I wish I could find out for SURE if the one I have is the KR808. Guess I may just have to do it by trial/error and order cartomizers that are compatible with the 808 and see if it works.

I take it that the 510 is the most popular and highest recommended? KR808 is second?

Can you refer a respectable website that sells the 510? There have been a few sites posted in this thread already, but being new to this whole thing it still seems foreign...I'm sure I'll eventually get it all down, though. LOL

If anyone didn't get the link to the main site of the one I bought, here it is again:
Cig2o.com
...maybe someone can look at it and understand something I wouldn't be able to and be able to tell me if it is indeed the 808.

Hey Big Steve, i am new to vaping also, i purchased my 510 kit from cignot.com, right now they are running a special for 2 batteries, 2 atomizers, 5 carts, and a charger for $35 with no box, now i have read a lot of forums on here that a lot of people like Libertyflights.com also, so check out both.

 

[Big Steve]

Wow! MVS is super fast in their shipping! I'm loving it!! Got my portable charger, an extra wall charger, and 50ml of e-liquid in today and ordered on the 28th.

Just a quick question...anyone know the average refills a particular amount of e-liquid can make? Or, how many ml an empty cartomizer holds?

 

[Rosa]

Wow! MVS is super fast in their shipping! I'm loving it!! Got my portable charger, an extra wall charger, and 50ml of e-liquid in today and ordered on the 28th.

Just a quick question...anyone know the average refills a particular amount of e-liquid can make? Or, how many ml an empty cartomizer holds?

I think those kr808d-1 cartos hold 1ml, but it's a good idea to re-fill before you need to (top off, top off, top off) because if you run them dry the filler inside will singe and nothing you do will get the burned taste out. So even though they hold 1ml, you only get to use about 1/2 of it or so before you need to top off.

fyi: 1ml is about 20 drops

 

[sherid]

Interestingly, you can buy it here Cig2O Electronic Cigarettes - Rocky's Cigars for $20 less than on the company's web site.

 

[Big Steve]

Cool, thanks for the info. I've been watching various videos and reading tips about how to fill them, but none really say how to tell if/when a carto is full.

I've been using the method of just popping off the mouth piece and putting drops down into it around the swab.

I tried the method of using the "carto condom" by filling it 3/4 full and putting the carto into it threaded end first but ended up making a huge mess. They made it look SO easy in the videos! Plus, I don't see how it's safe doing it that way considering the threads are getting wet and then reattach to the battery.

What's an easy way to tell when it's full if filling half-way through the use of a pre-filled carto?

 

[Cat_in_the_Playground]

I've been using the method of just popping off the mouth piece and putting drops down into it around the swab.

I tried the method of using the "carto condom" by filling it 3/4 full and putting the carto into it threaded end first but ended up making a huge mess. They made it look SO easy in the videos! Plus, I don't see how it's safe doing it that way considering the threads are getting wet and then reattach to the battery.

What's an easy way to tell when it's full if filling half-way through the use of a pre-filled carto?

I was just thinking about you this afternoon and hoping that things were going well with your new supplies. I hope you are enjoying it and found some good juices.

I use the method you do - pop off the cap and drip liquid around the edges. I've seen the condom method (it sure does look easy in the videos, doesn't it??? But haven't tried it yet). You can do the condom method from either end. If you are using auto batteries, then I would suggest doing the condom from the mouthpiece side, as any juice in your auto will fry it. You would do it the same as you did on the battery end, except insert the mouthpiece end (cap on). Press gently until you see the liquid just pop up through the battery end (and especially if you are using auto batts, don't let a lot of liquid get on the battery end and in the threads).

If you are using auto batt, you can hold the carto up to light and you should be able to see through it. If not, give a blow through the battery end to clear any liquid that might be there and check again.

I may try the condom method from the mouthpiece side (it did look so easy). But thus far, I just drip along the sides after removing the mouthpiece cap. Filling an empty carto is about 10-15 drops. So, if I'm topping off a carto, I'll add 5 drop and see how it looks. Maybe add 7 drops. You don't want juice standing on top of the fill material. Even if you add too much (either you can see it or you get juice in your mouth when you take a drag), pop off the cap and use a paper towel to wick up the excess. How much you add also depends on how much you have vaped that carto. You just don't want them to get dry or they will burn.