New member, I need help :(

[KattMamma]

I have a love/hate relationship with my subtank mini. First one was defective (although from what I've seen that's pretty rare). Second one is good, but now I realize how inconsistent the stock coils for it are. When I finally got a good 5pk of coils, I almost couldn't believe it - that's when I was really in hog heaven!

To be fair, maybe I got so many bad coils in such a short time because of one bad batch, or maybe cuz of Chinese new year... dunno.

But a good reason to go for the st mini is because there are TONS of people on this site that have it and love it. So the numbers mean I was just really unlucky, plus it also means it should be easy to find help here when you need it.

 

[wheelie]

Nothing wrong with your tanks. 25 watts is pretty high for stock built coils. I find they like nothing over 15 or 16 watts unless you go to subohm coils. Turn the heat down for your daily vape and you can get a high watt subtank for the clouds. Blow big clouds all the time what do you move up to next to be satisfied? Two or three coils a weeks not bad. I change out my wife's coils every second tankful because the juice turns black. CHEERS!

 

[ReedJr]

There is no secret combination or setup.
What works best for one may not work very good at all for another.

Tanks and coils along with their wicking performance have to be appreciated for what they are... some are better than others for different reasons... accepting the pros and cons of each is essential. Not all tanks can wick high VG juice very well. Personally I find most of the off the shelf coils and tanks vape 50/50 VG/PG very well. Going higher than 50VG and certainly above 70VG will definitely start to give some tanks problems, especially if chain vaping.

You don't need a high power box or a special tank to have a nice vape.
I strongly believe a mod that can provide 30W is quite sufficient, in most cases.

A good set up for a chain vaper will be different than the major majority are looking for, imho. This requires tanks that can wick very very quickly.

I when I vape, I chain vape for about two minutes at a time.
My setups all provide a different vaping experience, but are also to my liking and work for me. I have come to terms with how they operate (coil and wicking performance) and respect that asking for more will provide poor results.

Below are my off the shelf setup/combinations I use along with the settings I use.
* Kangertech Aerotank V2, MVP2.0. Airflow wide open, 1.2Ohm coil, 9 Watts.
* Kangertech Aerotank V2, Itaste134, Airflow wide open, 1.2Ohm coil, 10 Watts.
* Aspire Mini-Nautilus, MVP2.0. Airflow wide open, 1.8Ohm coil, 10 Watts.
* Aspire Mini-Nautilus, Itaste134, Airflow wide open, 1.2Ohm coil, 12 Watts.
* With the above noted four setups I often find I have to wait for the wick to catch up, preventing me from a true chain vape experience. I really like these setups when I'm around the house... a vape here, a vape there, here-a-vape, there-a-vape... lol. I find no advantage to vaping these tanks above 12Watts since I will get dry hits more often than I like. These setups also have a very tough time with high VG juice.
My go-to set ups when out and about are below. They are customized for me and my vaping style.
** Kangertech Subtank (RBA mode) drilled and slotted, Eleaf 30W Istick, Airflow wide open, custom 30awg three wire twisted 0.8Ohm coil, 18.6Watts.
** Kangertech Subtank-Mini (RBA mode) drilled and slotted, Eleaf 30W Istick, Airflow wide open, custom 30awg three wire twisted 0.6Ohm coil, 20.7Watts.
** I intentionally modified (drilled and slotted) my Subtank and my Subtank-Mini to allow for maximum juice flow to the wicks. The modified RBA mode have allowed me to use high VG juice and has allowed me to truly chain vape the way I like.

As you can see there is no real easy answer for your question and concern.
If another purchase is a definite thing I think it might be good to consider a RTA. Building your own coils and wicks in a RTA maybe the solution.

Good luck.
Happy vaping.

So you with the subtank mini you can comfortably chains vape? Is it hard to build the coils for the rba? Looks small lol

 

[Yozhik]

So you with the subtank mini you can comfortably chains vape? Is it hard to build the coils for the rba? Looks small lol

It's not the most spacious deck to work on, but the connection points for a coil are right where they need to be, so it's actually easier in some ways over other RBAs. Also, over time it's fairly common for most vapers to own several tanks for different things. I use a Magma clone RDA by Infinite for sampling juices (great to learn building on btw), a Nautilus Mini for high nicotine juices, and the Subtank Mini and Lemo II for sub-ohm.

Finally, if you're using up coils that quickly, my guess is that you may not be giving them time to wick with high VG juice. VG has a high viscosity, which means it can be much slower when it comes to wicking. If you're doing high VG, you may want to wait for the Subox Mini, which is a new Kanger Product coming out. It's a Subtank Mini, but with a different RBA that has much larger holes for wicking than the Subtank Mini.

 

[jseah]

So you with the subtank mini you can comfortably chains vape? Is it hard to build the coils for the rba? Looks small lol

I tend to chain vape, and I have no problems with the Subtank Mini wicking, and I use 60VG/40PG and 70VG/30VG juices. However, I never go above 25 watts (currently I am vaping it at 20 watts). This is with the OCC coils (I haven't tried using the RBA yet). From what I hear, the RBA doesn't wick as well as the OCC unless you widen the juice channels.

 

[lozzaine]

I use a melo and a istick 30w and I am without a doubt, a chain vaper. My coils last about a week but eventually I'm going to try to rebuild them myself cause it doesn't seem that hard. (Vapor Hut has a really good video). I tend to vape at 20 watts though. I've also purchased an iSub by innokin that hasn't got here yet. I think it also might depend on the flavors? I tend to stay with cereals, fruits, and creams. But since the thing burns juice like a ...., I refill twice a day roughly unless I work then about once. How much juice are you going through before it burns up?

 

[ReedJr]

I use a melo and a istick 30w and I am without a doubt, a chain vaper. My coils last about a week but eventually I'm going to try to rebuild them myself cause it doesn't seem that hard. (Vapor Hut has a really good video). I tend to vape at 20 watts though. I've also purchased an iSub by innokin that hasn't got here yet. I think it also might depend on the flavors? I tend to stay with cereals, fruits, and creams. But since the thing burns juice like a ...., I refill twice a day roughly unless I work then about once. How much juice are you going through before it burns up?

Wow, that would be awesome lol. 1 coil a week would be awesome. I usually go through 3 tanks a day and most of the time half of the third tank is wasted when changing out coils. I like to clean my tank every time I refill.

 

[Bunnykiller]

ahhh looking for the clouds... maybe you should consider getting an RDA ( dripper) and look into building your own coils... making your own coils will save you quite a bit of cash... even if you buy wire from a shop

 

[Caro123]

You talking about an RDA? I was told they wouldn't work on my 30w istick

I think you may have been told incorrectly I just tested my little dripper on my Istick 20 watts and it works fine I currently happen to have a 2ohm coil on it and it vaped at 15 watts and while I would hardly say I am a cloud chaser the bigger clouds, the lower nic and most importantly to me the flavour is lovely. I am far from an expert on coils or rda but I believe it has to do with the ohm of the coil ( if your coil is not adequate the Istick won't fire) after making the first couple coils they are quite easy to make ( not to make beautiful-but functionable)

 

[lozzaine]

Wow, that would be awesome lol. 1 coil a week would be awesome. I usually go through 3 tanks a day and most of the time half of the third tank is wasted when changing out coils. I like to clean my tank every time I refill.

If you pull the drip tip off, the thing sits flat so you can easily swap out a coil without spilling juice? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding. But the only time I rinse out my tank is if I'm purposely dumping juice because I hate it and I just can't stand it anymore. Otherwise, I just mix the flavors a little bit as the old flavor works it's way out of the coil. But sounds like you're vaping a little bit more than I do. I bought a second tank to spread the 'burden' off of just the one so my one and only tank doesn't get abused days in a row...maybe that would help? I'll let you know how the isub works out if you're interested. It's even cheaper than the melo.

 

[Ohm Gnome]

First don't listen to people saying 25 watts is too high. The Atlantis coil works fine in the Melo also. They are rated for 20 to 30 watts. There is no problem with compatibility either. Lots of helpful people here but majority of vapers here don't sub ohm and most that do use Kanger Subtanks. So they aren't used to high watts. The Herakles is the best sub ohm' tanks I've found with pre built coils. They handle max vg and i've never got a bad Herakles coil. But you need more than 30 watts. With only 30 watts you're pretty limited in sub ohm tanks. The Subtank Mini is great but it's NOT a cloud machine. The original Atlantis or Atlantis 2 with the same .5 coil you're using now. A Arctic with a .5 coil will vape at 30 watts decent but you need at least 50 and really 80 watts to take advantage of the newer tanks that rival RDAs in vapor production

 

[Ohm Gnome]

And to be clear I didn't mean to be insulting in the previous post. I love all you tootle puffers. I was just trying to say that I'm in the minority. This is a Tootle Puffing world here . But I truly love this world in here

 

[OriVape]

The standard aspire coils aren't meant to be pushed at high wattage. I think 13-14 is max.
I was like you. Ended up spending a load of cash for the vaporsahrk rDNA40 with nickel coils. I push them at 40watts and the coils last a long time!
To me it sounds like you need to sub ohm. It will really make a difference for you. It did for me. I'm not a fan of the kanger tank, but people swear by them. I find they get too hot and they spit!

oh and if you start sub ohm, remember to drop the nicotine! No one warned me and I got dizzy!! ;-)

 

[edyle]

Sup everyone..I was seeking help for my little problem and ran across this forum so here I am. I started vaping about 2 months ago..I walked into a store to buy a starter pen and ended up getting the kangertech ipow 2 with the protank 2. 3 days later, I walked into another store and got talked into upgrading to an eleaf Istick 30w and the memo tank. I was very satisfied for a little while. My main juice was swirly pop menthol from mad scientist and it always worked fine. But any other juice I try seems to give me really burnt hits and the coils may (at best) last 2 days. I switched to the .5 ohm aspire coils and I get better taste but the coil still burns up just as quick. I've tried every combination of VG/PG and I just don't get it. Could it be anything other than the tank or the juice? Could the battery cause this at all? I'm a newb to this bare with me lol. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

You upgraded pretty fast from a 5-10 watt system to a 30 watt system.
Some things just need some time to get used to, and switching around things too fast might just leave you confused.

I'd stick to what works for a while; when you start low and move up in wattage, you can find the sweet spot for your vape, but if you start out to high, you burn something, and going lower isn't going to undo the damage.
Also if you chain vape, and your wicking can't keep up, you end up burning.

 

[Ohm Gnome]

The loop is sub ohming. A Melo is a sub ohm tank. The aspire coil in it is rated for 20to 30 watts

 

[edyle]

You talking about an RDA? I was told they wouldn't work on my 30w istick

An rda will work just fine on your 30w istick.
They work fine on my 15w vamo.

 

[Ohm Gnome]

I meant op not loop lol. auto correct

 

[Ohm Gnome]

If you put a RDA on it I suggest not even sub ohming. I'd build at least 1.0Ω

 

[Ohm Gnome]

If you put a RDA on it I suggest not even sub ohming. I'd build at least 1.0Ω

 

[ReedJr]

Yeah I am sub ohming. I'm thinking about just upgrading tanks for now. Maybe a tank that can run as low as 25w but higher so I can upgrade boxes later. And I upgraded fast because I could tell the day I started vaping that I wasn't going to be an average user. I was smoking 2 packs a day and honestly the best part about it was the relaxation I got from being swarmed in smoke lol. Sounds weird I guess but hey, that's what I like. So it only makes sense I went straight to cloud chasing. But I'm not really wanting to go as far as an RDA. Something in between an RDA and my sub ohm tank. That's why the sub ohm tanks with the rba sparked some interest. I don't know what move I'm gonna make yet. Vaping has already cost me so much (juice and coils, 55 a week) that I've almost went back to smoking but if I can find a cheap enough setup that works for me, I'd be the happiest vape nerd alive