New member + smokers tongue

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Danny55

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Hi folks, new here. :) 54 and smoking since I was 16. Never been a pack a day smoker though, and in fact, I often go whole days with no smoking, but I have to smoke by the end of the day as I can only hold off the craving for so long.

I just decided to try and quit rollup cigarettes which I've smoked for many years (and ready mades before that) and I've bought an EVOD starter kit and a few juices last night, which hopefully will arrive in the next couple of days. Currently I'm vaping on a Nicolite 16mg e-cigarette. It's 'ok' and takes the edge off the craving but not totally satisfying. So I'm looking forward to seeing how much better the experience will be with the EVOD, I'm hoping the bigger nicotine hit will sate my cravings completely. I've bought some 10ml bottles, some are 18mg and a couple are 24mg as I don't know yet what strength will give me that head to toe relaxed feeling. I feel the e-cig I'm drawing on doesn't really give that. Anyway, I shall let you know my findings. :)

I have a question separate to vaping, and it's addressed to ex analogue cigarette smokers. My tongue currently has a couple of large exposed red patches on the surface, to the left of the tongue, where the papillae has scrubbed away. The sensation on my tongue is like that mild soreness when you've burnt your tongue on food. I've had this for probably a couple of years or so, and it's always looked basically the same. I've never bothered to get it checked out, it never really worried me as it looks superficial. Sometimes the patches look bigger or smaller. I put this down to letting the rollups hang from my mouth, always on the left side. It's as though the heat from the rollups might have caused the top layer of my tongue to burn away.

My dentist pointed it out to me on friday, he asked if I'd like him to refer me to the specialist clinic at the local hospital, and I said ok. He said he wasn't worried about it and I shouldn't lose any sleep, it didn't look 'sinister' to him but it's worth checking out. Well, you do lose a bit of sleep don't you when someone points something out like this!

I went to the doctor today for another opinion who inspected my mouth and said it's probably nothing carcinogenic (although there's always the possibility it could be pre-cancerous) but she also wants me to go to the hospital to get it checked out, possibly even for a biopsy. A biopsy, in the tongue! :( I hope they can scrape off what they need without an injection. So she's now making the referral.

Anyway, I've since googled it and all the pictures that come up that look exactly like my tongue, are under the symptom of 'geographic tongue' which is benign and goes away by itself. The doctor never mentioned it, but it really looks like geographic tongue to me. Doesn't look like that other thing, Leukoplakia, to me. She said it looks a little bit ulcerated. Has anyone ever had a similar experience on their tongue from smoking, or letting their cigarettes hang from one side of their mouth? I'm obviously worried as I don't want it to be oral cancer. Thing is, geographic tongue doesn't really seem to be related to smoking. Although I think smoking can worsen it. I've taken a picture of my tongue if anyone wants to see it for comparison :p. I would love them to say it's Geographic tongue, but now it's the waiting game, waiting for the appointment in a few days, then waiting for the results. So I feel a bit anxious and now I need a cigarette! Lol, no I'm gonna try and stick with the e-cig for now.
 
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patkin

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Sorry to hear. Hope you aren't using an irritating mouth wash... like Listerine. Go to Walgreens and get Closys... pricey but you don't use as much. Feels no different than water on your tongue if you don't use the enclosed little vial of mint in it. Swish with it right before bed and don't eat or drink til the next morning. This was recommended to me by a professional. I'm not one of those.
 

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As a self-proclaimed doctor (if anyone wants to debate this I will direct you to the website I printed my diploma off of)

Remember that vaping will dehydrate you some also so this aspect may irritate it some also. Remember to hydrate more than you use to with water (not coffee, not soda - water)

otherwise if you have good insurance by all means see your local health professionals and get it checked for piece(sp) peace of mind

(nobody seems to be answering my free breast exam ads on craigs list - it seems they are not taking my PDH from WyoTech very seriously)
 

Danny55

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As a self-proclaimed doctor (if anyone wants to debate this I will direct you to the website I printed my diploma off of)

Remember that vaping will dehydrate you some also so this aspect may irritate it some also. Remember to hydrate more than you use to with water (not coffee, not soda - water)

otherwise if you have good insurance by all means see your local health professionals and get it checked for piece(sp) peace of mind

(nobody seems to be answering my free breast exam ads on craigs list - it seems they are not taking my PDH from WyoTech very seriously)

Hi Jim. Based on my description about my tongue, do you think it's likely to be just superficial, ie, the top layer of my tongue has been affected by smoking and it'll just recover by abstainance of smoking the roll ups?

I'm desperately awaiting arrival of my starter kit which I hope arrives tomorrow so I can try it out. Yesterday I vaped on the nicolite and had just one rollup in the evening because the Nicolite isn't giving me the full relaxed feeling/nicotine hit that I get from rollups. Today I've done the same, and just now smoked a rollup, the only rollup I'll have today. Can anyone tell me if the EVOD and the 18 and 24mg juice I've ordered will give me the same head and body rush/relaxed feeling I get from my tobacco? Maybe I'll need 36mg? My tobacco is Cutter's Choice, which is strong but not quite as strong (on the throat hit I mean) as something like Golden Virginia. I did a search on here earlier and one person said "I smoke Cutter's Choice, finally got my first kit today, ordered 36 mg BM2 RY4, seems to hit the spot vapour and taste-wise." So maybe I'll need the highest strength, but I'll have to wait and see.
 
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