new mod, new atty, where's my cloud?!

[dgorman422]

So, based off of the videos i've watched recently (which I thought would make me a pro) I thought my current build would make me blow clouds of vape and would be awesome. Here's the build I have maybe someone can help me find the problem.

-- Nemesis mod
----ICR 18650 3400mAH 3.7V battery, fully charged
-- Patriot atomizer
---- 28awg dual microcoils w/ sterile cotton as a wick
---- 70pg/30vg juice picked up from my local shop

watching a video from rip trippers where he reviewed the patriot atty I saw he was using microcoils w/ 12 wraps.

I've got an iTaste MVP v2 that I was using as the tester and it says i've got .7 ohms? I'm not sure if that's accurate but I'm having trouble finding my multimeter.

I know it's working, my coils burn from the center towards the end, it does make vapor but it seems like the only time I get a decent hit is when I hear it popping, and then it seems way too hot to get a good hit.

I'll take any advice you guys can offer. Thank you.

 

[koriandjon]

I am not 100% sure I am just going off what I have read but I believe that the mvp isn't supposed to work at a sub ohm level or it can be very hit and miss. Something I do know though for the cloud chasers you are going to want something higher in vg than the 30% I would say try out some 50/50 that's what I am vaping with an evic and a kfl+ 1.5 ohm at 3.6v and I get great cloud production. Not as much as on the videos but more than I was getting before. Maybe someone else can jump in though about the sub ohm though that knows more there.

 

[koriandjon]

Oops I just saw it was a nemesis mod so never mind the mvp part I got confused don't mind my rambling on that part.

 

[dgorman422]

no problem man, it was just nice to see that somebody replied so quickly. the shop I usually go to only has 30vg juice, I might have to check out some of the other places around here.

 

[jwag1973]

One thing is the pg/vg ratio your using. Another could be the way the coil is built. I've personally found the build is the single most important factor in relation to performance. At .7 your gonna hear popping and cracking, its common. When sub-ohm vaping the vape is going to be much hotter than a higher resistance coil would be. Good luck.

Edit: When I really wanna blow clouds, I use 100% VG juice.

 

[skimmer02]

How long have you been building coils? The big clouds are usually all about the build. Requires a balance of heat, wicking, and air flow. Usually takes a little while to get good at it, but once you start, you're addicted.

 

[tmcase]

I can't address the clouds issue without a pic of your setup but I can tell you you are using the wrong batteries for sub ohms and for mech mods. You should be using IMR batts. They are safe chemistry and will vent rather than blow up in your face in case of a short.

 

[layman1141]

It may have something to do with how you have the cotton rolled. Like the density of the wick near the coil.

 

[skimmer02]

I can't address the clouds issue without a pic of your setup but I can tell you you are using the wrong batteries for sub ohms and for mech mods. You should be using IMR batts. They are safe chemistry and will vent rather than blow up in your face in case of a short.

Oooh, didn't pick up on that. I would pay attention to this^^^^. You can use what you like, but I personally would never use an ICR battery in a mech mod.

 

[dgorman422]

Thanks for the advice everybody, I've only been building coils for a few weeks now. I didn't even realize there were different types of batteries, the local shop I bought all my gear from only had these batteries. Looks like I've got an excuse to check out a couple different shops around here now.

 

[skimmer02]

If you vape with a regulated device, it will usually have protective circuits built in to keep you from screwing up too bad. If you vape with a mech mod, only you and your knowledge about battery safety stands between you and a thermal runaway. Take the time to do some research about Ohm's Law and battery safety. You'll be glad of it, and safer for it! Go Vols!

 

[Susan~S]

I've heard the Sony US18650VTC 3, 4, or 5 are good for sub-ohms. I think I saw a three pack of these advertised on ........'s earlier this week for $29.99. I've also seen them on Ebay for 2/$19.99. I believe all three of these are 30A High Drain Li-Ion

 

[rob33]

Here what I suggest to everyone who tries to start by jumping off the deep end:

Get where you can build a good coil its ok if its 1.8Ω its a really good starting point. When can build that coil, with a good wick, and its working for you, then move on. Why? Well you now have a starting point and some knowledge. If its not working you can figure what you are doing wrong. When you ask us we are just guessing most of time. It great that you are watching Rip blow them clouds or anyone else, but remember it's a video, most of the time they took many practice hits and takes to make it. Not saying you can't but don't expect it with your first try.

 

[69CamaroSS]

I second everything Rob said and want to add that on a video, there's many factors in the way a cloud looks...camera, contrast ratio, lighting, speed and type of exhale etc etc. Question to ask yourself....does your vape taste good and please you? Trying to emulate the best of the best using their best take on above equipment will inevitably have one forever chasing the (probably) unattainable. Enjoy what you're doing and, as always....Vape On!!!!

 

[zoog]

pg/vg blend, need way more vg. airholes, more airflow cooler, lager vape. the way you draw, lung hit like a mad man!

 

[DasBluCig]

I can't address the clouds issue without a pic of your setup but I can tell you you are using the wrong batteries for sub ohms and for mech mods. You should be using IMR batts. They are safe chemistry and will vent rather than blow up in your face in case of a short.

THIS!!!!!!!^ ^^ ^
My advice to the OP....STOP RIGHT NOW....and READ Baditude's blog (and a myriad of posts......!!) about BATTERY SAFETY!!!
The vaping community.....and your FACE....will thank you!!
Happy- and SAFE (vaping) Trails!

 

[MattyRetro]

Get yourself some IMR batteries ASAP