New person wants to play too

[Sunshyn]

My husband Greg's DSE-901 came in today, and we were playing with it and some of the different flavors. He likes it ok, except for the liquid on the lips sometimes (over-fill I'm guessing). Aside from that part, I like it quite a bit myself but have been expressing my disappointment about the apparent typical lifespan of the components. His ideas on what he can do about that is catching his interest even more than the vaping. He liked the pics I pointed out from the posts here concerning various battery mods, particularly Madog's MAGNUM POWER mod.

So I gather that what he's looking to do at the moment is just to run a 901 atomizer off less expensive, higher capacity rechargeable batteries. A manual switch sounded like a very good idea as well. All in all, a basic Screwdriver type setup. He told me that the first thing he needs to know is the battery requirements. He doesn't spend much time online so I'm being sort of a go-between at the moment. Is there a resource which would have all the specifications listed or could someone please reply with that information?

 

[Cellmeister]

The screwdriver is an e-cig made by Trog from these forums. You can get more info here: ecigscrewdriver.com

You should really learn to use the "search feature" its the button in the top right that says "Search"

Hope That Helps

 

[Sunshyn]

I know what the Screwdriver is. That's why I used it as a comparison for the TYPE of thing my husband wants to make. What I ASKED is what the battery requirements are to run a 901 atomizer.

 

[Kate]

This thread might have some relevant information - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/5243-batteries-power-information-specs.html

Bastage posted details of how to do a Screwdriver mod at ecigreview apparently - E-Cig Review: The Place for Non-Biased Ecig Reviews and E-Cigarette Discounts

 

[DaveyRoots]

also see the video madog made for the magnum construction, it is mid post a few pages in. im also about to upload a wiring diagram for my "medicator"

 

[Cellmeister]

Oh Soo Sorry I Must of Mis-read

"New person wants to play too"

Again The Search Function On The Top Right!

 

[nicowolf]

You might want to just bookmark (or add to favorites) the modders' forum for him so he doesn't have to navigate and work hard to find it, just click once and read. By the time he is done reading about the magnum and watching the video, he'll be out of your hair completely - unfortunately so will the checkbook.

He will be inspired to start taking apart all kinds of things and rearranging and tweaking them. I know I am. It's a new obsession for me - everywhere I go I am thinking about what I can rearrange to improve my hardware.

 

[Sunshyn]

Thank you Kate and DaveyRoots. I'm looking it over the suggested topics now. And Nicowolf, you are entirely correct. I'd rather have hm working on a (likely) productive path than ranging in all the directions that would lead the wallet to.

I have been spending days searching various topics on the e-cigarette forum. Rather than exact requirements and specifications, most threads contain speculations on possible routes to take on a specific project. Even as the information sounds less than certain, I am not always able to determine if the person is talking about a similar enough model.

I have NO desire to risk atomizers. We're brand new to this and my husband was very recently laid off from his job of 20 years. I've yet to afford ANY backup atomizers AT ALL. If either dies before then, I will have to give up my own as he is too likely to restart analogs otherwise.

 

[Cellmeister]

FYI Fact: Atomizers Are Not Designed For Long Term Use & Will Frequently Just Die Anyways! This is How All These E-Cig Parts are Made (Batts, Switches, Atom's, etc).

Not to discourage you or your hubby, but you always need plenty of Atomizers & Batteries On Hand Without Mods as these are all disposable products at this time.

I have completed over 25 Different Working Mods & "The Wallet" is always open to E-Cigs & Parts....

Good luck!

 

[vslim]

I know what the Screwdriver is. That's why I used it as a comparison for the TYPE of thing my husband wants to make. What I ASKED is what the battery requirements are to run a 901 atomizer.

Not getting much help are you? I have been intensively searching this forum for such info so maybe I can help. I am sure (and I hope) the 'meister' will jump on me if I am wrong. For batteries, the atomizers in a regular e-cig use a small 3.7 V rechargeable Li-ion battery, which someone said was a 333 mAh battery. Some mods on this forum use higher-capacity 3.7 V Li-ion batteries such as a 14500 (do google) which is about the same size as a AA battery. Other mods use three AA 1.5 V batteries (total in series 4.5V, see Juicy box thread by Jaaxx). I think I am going this route as NiMH rechargeable batteries are easy to get and do not have the hazards associated with Li batteries. Other mods use straight USB power (about 5 volts) which is said to provide about 1 amp current through a cold atomizer. No one seems to be sure about the current that 3.7 - 5 volts puts through a hot atomizer. It seems to me that the operating current for the atomizer is probably between 1/3 and 1 amp althought some mods have reported using higher voltage and thus current (Magnum mod). BTW if you choose to go the NiMh route I got a 'travel charger' for these batts on clearance at Radio Shack yesterday for $1.59!
For saving your atomizer you need to check around the forum for tips on cleaning it.
Hope this helps,

missy slim ;-)

 

[Cellmeister]

Not getting much help are you? I have been intensively searching this forum for such info so maybe I can help. I am sure (and I hope) the 'meister' will jump on me if I am wrong (Not Really).

For batteries, the atomizers in a regular e-cig use a small 3.7 V rechargeable Li-ion battery, which someone said was a 333 mAh battery (they are 140 to 200 mAh Average Stock Bat, (Note: chinese to american translation ratings are usually off, mAh rating stated by the manufacturers are usually off as well! Just How it is.) .

Some mods on this forum use higher-capacity 3.7 V Li-ion batteries such as a 14500 (do google) which is about the same size as a AA battery (I Added the Search Link, Please Check The DIM, Higher Capacity I believe vslim is referring to mAh) .

Other mods use three AA 1.5 V batteries (total in series 4.5V, see Juicy box thread by Jaaxx). I think I am going this route as NiMH rechargeable batteries are easy to get and do not have the hazards associated with Li batteries (There are No Hazards with Lithium Ion Batteries Unless your a ....., They Are & Have Been Used In Cell Phones For Years and are the Latest Technology, The Only Issue May Be With Using The Un-Protected Lithium Batteries Type & Not Knowing What You Are Doing) .

Other mods use straight USB power (about 5 volts) which is said to provide about 1 amp current through a cold atomizer (Computer USB Ports are limited to 500 mAh Max, When Using A Battery Pack or AC to DC Adapter, 5 Volt 1000 mAh or Higher Is Used Frequently as The Power Source).

No one seems to be sure about the current that 3.7 - 5 volts puts through a hot atomizer (? What? This is a Variable Depending On the Voltage, Hot, Cold, the Atoms Condition, etc and it will change it, U can do some of the Math) .

It seems to me that the operating current for the atomizer is probably between 1/3 and 1 amp althought some mods have reported using higher voltage and thus current (Magnum mod) (This Will Vary depending On Your Mod, You Should Limit It To a Max Of 5 Volts, But Depends On The Voltage Used For Your Mod for The mAh).

BTW if you choose to go the NiMh route I got a 'travel charger' for these batts on clearance at Radio Shack yesterday for $1.59! (No Comment)

For saving your atomizer you need to check around the forum for tips on cleaning it. (Nice Tip, But All Current Atomizers Fail Shortly Anyways, Cleaning Usually = Failure, Ya Some Others Say Otherwise, I'm Not Going To argue, I don't Really Care)

Hope this helps, (Yes I Do)


missy slim ;-)

vslim / missy slim Good Job, I don't mean to jump anyone anyways, just sometimes I get moody.

Sunshyn I apologize if I was rude, no harm intended.

My Responses are in Red, Damn You Gave me a handful and I am in a rush, I have a meeting, so I could not double for errors..

Really Hope This Helps! "I wanted to just play too"

Keep building!

 

[TxTrouble]

Sunshyn
You may have your hubby look into making you a usb mod as well. That way when your at your computer you dont have to worry about a battery at all. Maddog did a extremely helpful video of how he made his mod. I am going to attempt to put a link here I hope it works. Magnum_DIY.wmv
If it doesnt you should be able to copy and paste it into your browser.
I hope that helps. Welcome to the forums.
D
Oh the batteries I use in my magnum mod are CR2 (2 of them).

 

[Sunshyn]

Thank you both so much! This is exactly the type of information he asked me for. It's certainly much more on target (and probably more accurate) than the diverse notes I managed to compile through searches. My electronics knowledge is basic, but I'll post what he comes up with if he's still reluctant to participate in a forum setting.

I'm very glad he's excited about an aspect of e-cigarettes. He seems to need time to get used to vaping vs. the $6 a pack clove cigarettes, which may taste better but are particularly bad health-wise. Hopefully the hobby aspect will keep him interested rather than frustrated over the drawbacks.
And I do plan on ordering spare parts as soon as is possible.

 

[Kate]

If you still need more info then have a look for threads started by Bastage and Madog. They both are wizards with mods and give great details and instructions.

 

[abeybabey]

also see the video madog made for the magnum construction, it is mid post a few pages in. im also about to upload a wiring diagram for my "medicator"

I just wanted to mention that I'm really looking forward to your wiring diagram. I'm soldering AND wiring inept so that would really help me out.

 

[Sunshyn]

TxTrouble, a USB passthrough is what I'm saving up for since much of his time is in the card and my own is at my computer. I was going to get that and a number of atomizers and maybe regular batteries to make the shipping from bestecig worthwhile. I asked him about making the passthroughs, but he said it wasn't worthwhile (could probably be translated as not being nearly as much fun as coming up with his own look for the e-cigs ).

I find the step by step instructions and videos very informative, and put Greger in a room with Bastage and Madog and they'd probably come up with all sorts of mad inventions together LOL. However, his method is usually to hit the discount store for his own choice of parts and desired look then throw them together himself. His profession deals with electronics to a large extent so how to put everything together isn't the issue once he knows how something is supposed to work. He didn't want to guess and use trial and error as far as voltage and such goes, hence the request for the specs. He's probably got enough info to go on his shopping spree now, but I'll have to wait until he gets in from his temp job today to be sure.

 

[TxTrouble]

Sunshyn
It sounds like your husband will definately be able to figure out how to make any mod. I actually have an 801 and 901 usb mod on my desk at the moment that I use. All my mods are made by my better half Ripley. I would burn down the house if I had a solder gun or hot glue gun in my hand. Not to mention the parts fly through the air as I get frustrated. I just dont have the patience for that type of stuff.
I also bought the APC battery pack so I can use my usb anywhere I go although I dont use it in public. I get plenty of questions with my e-cig I dont need more with what are you sticking in your mouth with a wire that goes to your pocket questions.
You can also find a plug for your car that will take a usb plug.
I honestly think if your husband can make a magnum mod then he can easily handle the usb mod and it will be a lot cheaper then if you buy it retail.
Good luck. E-cigs can be frustrating at first but once you get the hang of it it becomes as second nature as smoking.

 

[Mace]

Check out Deal Extreme they have good prices and free shipping. You do have to wait a while to get your order though.

 

[vslim]

For the USB power sources I found a car plug USB and a wall USB travel charger, both at Walgreen's about $8 each.

 

[Cellmeister]

For the USB power sources I found a car plug USB and a wall USB travel charger, both at Walgreen's about $8 each.

Sometimes You Get What You Pay For....

Keep Vapin!