New research. Rebuttal?

[Alien Traveler]

So, new research.

techtimes.
com/articles/53617/20150517/flavor-lung-damage-e-cigarette-varieties-more-harmful-others.htm

"The Flavor Of Lung Damage: Some E-Cigarette Varieties May Be More Harmful Than Others : LIFE : Tech Times"


Opinions?
Was there a rebuttal?

 

[Thrasher]

Nothing to counter, this has been considered a possibility since flavoring was first introduced.. No flaver has been deemed safe for inhalation, and since I started I have refused vaping crazy flavors just for these reasons.
I mean dam dude, airwick auto sprayers are causing asthma, why would anyone vape juices strong enough to melt plasic

 

[skoony]

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So, new research.

techtimes.
com/articles/53617/20150517/flavor-lung-damage-e-cigarette-varieties-more-harmful-others.htm

"The Flavor Of Lung Damage: Some E-Cigarette Varieties May Be More Harmful Than Others : LIFE : Tech Times"


Opinions?
Was there a rebuttal?

they also did the study on how vaping inhibits coughing.
mike

 

[93gc40]

I am 100% positive that vaping is NOT as safe as many want to believe.. I am also 100% positive, vaping is SAFER than smoking.. I think, I prefer the risks of Vaping to smoking.

 

[SissySpike]

I am of the same theory as thrasher. If it melts plastic I stopped using it.

 

[Thrasher]

The test does mention the least( if any) amount of damage came from unflavored.
With pg showing no effect. But anyone looking at past evidence already knows breathing pg is pretty harmless.


Vaping in itself is pretty harmless, its the way the product has been adulterated that's going to cause issues. Vaping hot fudge banana strawberry with cinnamon sprinkles flavor.............. Really?


Then add in these massive clouds from subohm and cloud chasing rigs and now are you not only breathing in a chemical that may not be good for the lungs your now inhaling 5 cubic yards of it

Why do people believe the results would be anything BUT bad?

 

[SissySpike]

The test does mention the least( if any) amount of damage came from unflavored.
With pg showing no effect. But anyone looking at past evidence already knows breathing pg is pretty harmless.


Vaping in itself is pretty harmless, its the way the product has been adulterated that's going to cause issues. Vaping hot fudge banana strawberry with cinnamon sprinkles flavor.............. Really?


Then add in these massive clouds from subohm and cloud chasing rigs and now are you not only breathing in a chemical that may not be good for the lungs your now inhaling 5 cubic yards of it

Why do people believe the results would be anything BUT bad?

Because it tasted good and people like to fool them selves. People tend to be stubborn like that, and or some people just out of plane ignorance dont have a clue. They dont put any thought in to what they do IMO this is a consequence of big brother telling us whats good whats bad and how to use it.
Some people have forgotten how to think for them selves.

 

[caramel]

There is a secret advantage to unflavored.

 

[SissySpike]

There is a secret advantage to unflavored.

Im more than a little partial to caramel flavor Even if its bad for me I would still enjoy it Im hopelessly addicted!

 

[caramel]

Im more than a little partial to caramel flavor Even if its bad for me I would still enjoy it Im hopelessly addicted!

Beware it gunks coils

 

[jefsview]

In the article, it mentions that it was the unheated eliquid, i.e. that is wasn't vaporized.

So, don't rub it on your skin.

 

[SissySpike]

Beware it gunks coils

Is ok all of the finer things have their little quirks.

 

[jambi]

Well, at least I get to keep my Peanut Butter cookie.

 

[hashtag]

I worry about the tank melters. The company that supplied the juice replied a few times to the article, I would like to see a study with them involved so that we have the information about how the tests were conducted and how valid they are.

I assume vaping is safer than smoking but if there are some serious threats in certain flavors I would like to know. It just doesn't seem like any fair and neutral studies are being done. All the studies (good or bad) appear to be aimed at proving a point.

 

[Alien Traveler]

I worry about the tank melters. The company that supplied the juice replied a few times to the article, I would like to see a study with them involved so that we have the information about how the tests were conducted and how valid they are.

I assume vaping is safer than smoking but if there are some serious threats in certain flavors I would like to know. It just doesn't seem like any fair and neutral studies are being done. All the studies (good or bad) appear to be aimed at proving a point.

Exactly. I'd like to see a paper, but unfortunately it was not a paper but a presentation. As I understand cell cultures were somehow treated with liquid juice. Not exactly a replication of a real life, but interesting nevertheless. I like that it was not simple e-cig trashing, but real testing of juices (but again, methodology could be somewhat wrong).

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Puts the flavors down and walks away. Looks like vaping will have to wait till I mix up some unflavored tomorrow.

 

[Coldrake]

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Junk science.

 

[Underwhelmed]

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The note says,
"Broke link to article of questionable authority. No links to studies to back up to the claims stated in the article."

 

[Susan~S]

PLEASE READ! Breaking Links to Junk Science and Other Rubbish Posts | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[Coldrake]

So, we are afraid...

Afraid people might read it and believe it.