Top air, two post, comes with squonk pin. Any BF'ers using this thing? It's $20-$25 at the sites selling it. I'm curious how is squonks and drains. The logo is unfortunate but if it's a good performer I may have to snag one.
RDA New squonk atty - Tobeco Torque
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Not sure about it being top air as I would assume once the top cap is on the air looks like it would be post hole height... I don't think this is going to drain at all with the raised +post, so its a total BF failure in my book...
Well, to me it looks very much like a Velocity BF. I personally don't want my BF atty to drain completely dry. I prefer that some juice remain in the well to keep the wick saturated and prevent dry hits. Also, it seems like it wouldn't have to be squonked as often if some juice is caught in the well, like a regular top feed. That translates to a total BF success in my book...
The only question I would have is how large is the hole in the BF pin? It is impossible to see in the photo.
Regardless, for under 25 bucks it's probably worth a try.
The only question I would have is how large is the hole in the BF pin? It is impossible to see in the photo.
Regardless, for under 25 bucks it's probably worth a try.
Its great this would fall into your "win" column GP... The reason its a fail for my vape style is for starters, I do a lot of outdoor work and am constantly on the move. Anything from landscaping to full on construction. I have personally found that if I have excess liquid in an atty while I'm working it will drain in whatever pocket my device is in. Regardless if its a shirt pocket or pants pocket, it will drain from moving around, bending over, or whatever. The second reason is I use RxW exclusively in all my atty's and like anything else, it will only absorb so much liquid and anything left over in the atty will just cook and lose its flavor, mostly due to vaping in the .3Ω range in all my atty's...
To each his own as the saying goes... Never really understood why someone that has juice on demand, (thank Russ for that term), would need an atty to hold excess liquid when all you have to do is squonk it and fresh squozen liquid is at your disposal, (I think this is actually where that terminology came from)... Whatever works for you though to keep you off analogs though!!!
To each his own as the saying goes... Never really understood why someone that has juice on demand, (thank Russ for that term), would need an atty to hold excess liquid when all you have to do is squonk it and fresh squozen liquid is at your disposal, (I think this is actually where that terminology came from)... Whatever works for you though to keep you off analogs though!!!
I get it, just that I also get dry hits more often than I like on some of my BF RDAs. My Nuppins come to mind. When I'm at home sitting on the couch, and don't have to worry about excess liquid, it seems like I have to squonk a lot more often because the Nuppins are so efficient at draining. In that scenario I wouldn't mind if the atty retained a bit more juice.
Anyway, you are right - it's all about the context and what works for you.
Anyway, you are right - it's all about the context and what works for you.
This looks pretty decent in my book, for the price I may just grab one. I like my mini velocity clones with the raised center post BF pin so besides the graphic this looks pretty solid.
I get it, just that I also get dry hits more often than I like on some of my BF RDAs. My Nuppins come to mind. When I'm at home sitting on the couch, and don't have to worry about excess liquid, it seems like I have to squonk a lot more often because the Nuppins are so efficient at draining. In that scenario I wouldn't mind if the atty retained a bit more juice.
Anyway, you are right - it's all about the context and what works for you.
Hold it at a tilt while releasing the squonk to retain some liquid in the atty.
Tobecco makes great stuff. Looks like a winner to me. Hard to go wrong. Deepish well two poster. It's an authentic[emoji3]
I can only find a couple of Chinese vendors (although the price is good at $18.99)
Where are you finding them in the U.S.?
Where are you finding them in the U.S.?
Thank You, inswva!
Angelcigs appears to be out of Hong Kong (unless they have a U.S. warehouse?) But the other is good.
Angelcigs appears to be out of Hong Kong (unless they have a U.S. warehouse?) But the other is good.
Angelcigs has a US warehouse. There appear to be 14 in stock.
And, another option as well:
Torque RDA by Tobeco | Squonk Ready RDA
Well, I found one on ebay for 22 bucks shipped from Ohio and bought it. I figure it's very much like a Velocity for $22, and an authentic at that. I'll probably build it single coil in the center of the deck around .4-.5 ohms and try it on my Tmod.
The only real question for me is how well it squonks. I have a Velocity Mini clone that came with a BF pin and the hole seems a bit small which makes it hard to squonk. I still use it as a dripper with the solid pin and it works fine, just not a great bottom feeder.
A $22, two-post, authentic, bottom-feed atty is hard for me to pass on.
The only real question for me is how well it squonks. I have a Velocity Mini clone that came with a BF pin and the hole seems a bit small which makes it hard to squonk. I still use it as a dripper with the solid pin and it works fine, just not a great bottom feeder.
A $22, two-post, authentic, bottom-feed atty is hard for me to pass on.
Got mine, from ebay.
Built a single 26ga, 2.5mm single coil at around .5 ohms and centered it between the posts. Vapor production was pretty weak. I'm thinking due to the airflow being towards the top I wasn't getting air at the coil. (Got it to vape better with a single coil re-build - see edit below).
I also built it in dual coil 26ga 2.5mm at .4 ohms. I made sure to position the coils higher and vapor production is much better, but my preference is single coil, as I will primarily be using this on a single-battery 18650 mechanical squonk box. However...
...I can't comment on the squonkability of the Torque. Why, you ask?
Well, when it arrived there was no squonk pin in the package. I contacted the seller and his response was "I sent you another". Great. The second one arrived today......also without the squonk pin. Arrrrgggghhh. Contacted the seller again and I am awaiting his response.
Now, a sort of public service announcement: I'm not sure if ANY of this seller's Torque atomizers have a squonk pin. He obviously didn't bother to check the second one before shipping it. I can't believe I'm typing this but I'm not even sure if it is an authentic item. Regardless, DO NOT PURCHASE THIS FROM EBAY unless you don't care about the squonk pin.
Lastly, if someone does get one from another source - please let us know if it has a squonk pin.
Summary:
Pros:
- Two post deck.
- Nice fit and finish for a $20 atty (both of mine are black).
- It's authentic and made by Tobeco which I have found to make good-value vape gear.
- Initially not impressed with vapor production, but that has been remedied (see edit below).
Cons:
- Phantom squonk pin (at least with mine). Be careful who you buy from.
- Not the best looking atty as other have pointed out - cheesy logo (subjective).
Neutral:
- Phillips head screws - not really a negative but I have come to prefer grub screws and the Phillips head screws look odd to me now. Edit: This is more of an issue now that I have built this a few times. It would be much easier to torque down the screws if they were grub screws as my screwdriver wants to slip out of the small Phillips head screws.
Edit:
OK, I spent some time and re-built using a single coil - 26ga, 2.5mm diameter, .4 ohm and I made sure the the coil was very high in the atty - the coil is positioned with it's center right at the top of the posts. And I really torqued the screws down to be sure I was getting good contact. Wicked with organic cotton, it's now putting out as much vapor as my other single coil attys using a parallel mosfet box, which would give me the same voltage as my single-battery mechanical squonk boxes. Anyway, I think my problem initially was having my coil too low in relation to the air inlets.
Still - no joy on my squonk pin, which is the only reason I bought this.
Overall - It vapes OK and I wouldn't mind the so-so aesthetics if it were a BF atty for 20 bucks. Unfortunately at this point (for me, without the squonk pin) it's just another dripper and has no qualities that make it stand above any other cheap atomizer.
Built a single 26ga, 2.5mm single coil at around .5 ohms and centered it between the posts. Vapor production was pretty weak. I'm thinking due to the airflow being towards the top I wasn't getting air at the coil. (Got it to vape better with a single coil re-build - see edit below).
I also built it in dual coil 26ga 2.5mm at .4 ohms. I made sure to position the coils higher and vapor production is much better, but my preference is single coil, as I will primarily be using this on a single-battery 18650 mechanical squonk box. However...
...I can't comment on the squonkability of the Torque. Why, you ask?
Well, when it arrived there was no squonk pin in the package. I contacted the seller and his response was "I sent you another". Great. The second one arrived today......also without the squonk pin. Arrrrgggghhh. Contacted the seller again and I am awaiting his response.
Now, a sort of public service announcement: I'm not sure if ANY of this seller's Torque atomizers have a squonk pin. He obviously didn't bother to check the second one before shipping it. I can't believe I'm typing this but I'm not even sure if it is an authentic item. Regardless, DO NOT PURCHASE THIS FROM EBAY unless you don't care about the squonk pin.
Lastly, if someone does get one from another source - please let us know if it has a squonk pin.
Summary:
Pros:
- Two post deck.
- Nice fit and finish for a $20 atty (both of mine are black).
- It's authentic and made by Tobeco which I have found to make good-value vape gear.
- Initially not impressed with vapor production, but that has been remedied (see edit below).
Cons:
- Phantom squonk pin (at least with mine). Be careful who you buy from.
- Not the best looking atty as other have pointed out - cheesy logo (subjective).
Neutral:
- Phillips head screws - not really a negative but I have come to prefer grub screws and the Phillips head screws look odd to me now
. Edit: This is more of an issue now that I have built this a few times. It would be much easier to torque down the screws if they were grub screws as my screwdriver wants to slip out of the small Phillips head screws.Edit:
OK, I spent some time and re-built using a single coil - 26ga, 2.5mm diameter, .4 ohm and I made sure the the coil was very high in the atty - the coil is positioned with it's center right at the top of the posts. And I really torqued the screws down to be sure I was getting good contact. Wicked with organic cotton, it's now putting out as much vapor as my other single coil attys using a parallel mosfet box, which would give me the same voltage as my single-battery mechanical squonk boxes. Anyway, I think my problem initially was having my coil too low in relation to the air inlets.
Still - no joy on my squonk pin, which is the only reason I bought this.
Overall - It vapes OK and I wouldn't mind the so-so aesthetics if it were a BF atty for 20 bucks. Unfortunately at this point (for me, without the squonk pin) it's just another dripper and has no qualities that make it stand above any other cheap atomizer.
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