New steeping method

[fray]

I diy and make a tobacco juice that usually tastes like crap until it steeps for a week or two.

Last night I mixed up a new 30ml bottle. I had a few ml left in the old bottle and decided to pour it into the new mix to free up a bottle.

This evening when I got home I was grabbing a new carto out of the cupboard and noticed the juice had changed from the mostly clear liquid to the dark color that happens during steeping. Curious, I shook it up and dripped some on an atty and the stuff tastes like it has been sitting there for a week.

Maybe a fluke idk. This is the only mix I make that really needs to steep so its hard to verify with other flavors. If it is actually increasing the "steepage" there may be some mechanism in action that a seed from another batch could drastically alter the juice.

 

[cskent]

Sounds like it's worth a shot. Some of my mixes need to sit for a few weeks before I vape them. I never thought about treating it like sourdough bread.

 

[Sicarius]

Sour dough ejuice ....mmmmm

 

[Running Wolf]

yeah really, be interested to know if works a second time on other juices or not.

 

[fray]

Worked for 2 batches for me so far of one flavor. I would be interested if someone tried some vendor bought juice that generally needs steeping.

 

[arkador]

I just tried this on a new bottle of 18mg Vanilla Tobacco that I recieved.

the 2 day old, 50ml bottle just arrived, I took the top off, and added about 2ml from my previous bottle which was about a month old. Gave it a good shake, and put it on top of my fridge (about 80deg) and the next morning, the color had changed, and it tasted like it had steeped for a couple weeks.

Seems similar to the effect you get when you add a seed crystal to a high sugar solution. I'll be using this again, as it saves me the usual 2-3 week steeping time. I usually buy my tobacco juices a month in advance.

 

[WV_Mountaineer]

This is quite an interesting find, like a EUREKA moment...LOL

 

[brokepainter]

I wonder what would cause it to steep so fast?

 

[Semiretired]

It makes me more wonder what reactions are occurring while it is steeping. Definitely sounds like the yeast effect, but what does that actually mean???

 

[fray]

I have been thinking about this a little and I think that the oxidized nicotine in the steeped sample is speeding up the oxidation in the new juice. Although if this was 100% true we would have to give up our "letting flavors mingle" idea

 

[cskent]

I've also been thinking about this. I wish I had taken more chemistry in college because I think there's more going on on the molecular level than we are aware of.

 

[Gloria]

It would be interesting to know if the same thing happened with a sample that had zero nic.

I'm all for speeding up steeping my favorite juice.

 

[fray]

It would be interesting to know if the same thing happened with a sample that had zero nic.

I'm all for speeding up steeping my favorite juice.

Seems like a good way to test I will mix up a batch of 0mg tonight and let it steep for a couple weeks then try to replicate the experiment.

 

[Gloria]

Awesome fray!

Could I impose on you to please PM me with the results in case I forget to check this thread for your answer? I have a feeling I will have completely forgotten about this thread in a couple of weeks. My memory isn't so good anymore.

 

[Keekers]

I heard there are some tricks to hurrying the steeping process...I'm going to start a thread and see if people respond with any more suggestions!

 

[fray]

The 0mg juice isn't discoloring the same as my 24mg nic. It is going to be hard to test this at 0mg

 

[Pur3Rush]

The 0 mg juice isn't going to need to steep. The flavor is going to be what it is. The steeping is for the nic juices. I forgot which supplier did a lot of experiments on this. The 0 mg juice will hardly change color at all. The nicotine is what needs to mature, oxidize, yeast effect, whatever you call it. It needs to mellow into the juices. I have done the experiment listed and verify it works, although i don't how. You really only need a small amount of mature juice too.