New style atomizers

[snap6cat]

The last atomizers I got for both 801 and 901 have the heating element jut out much more. When you plug a cartridge in it will not seat because it gets too much interference from the element. I find you have to push the wicking material in quite a bit. Is this OK or am I missing something? They seem to work OK but the 901s seem wimpy. Do you think this new design is to improve life of atomizers? Has any one had experiences with these 2 different styles? Thanks for any input.
David

 

[Kate51]

Yes, I'm fighting one of those darned things right now! Got them from MyVaporStore, two or them. I even complained to them but they didn't have any idea how to fix it.
SO:I am trying a FIX. I took 1/2 of another cart wick and stuffed it down into the well of the cart. Then put the original wick in on top of that. That seems to provide enough force to the wick to keep it from getting pushed all the way in by that dumb bridge (lots of poster's have called it the HIGH BRIDGE atty. I don't like 'em!)
That seemed to help, but the problem then was that the bridge squeezed out a whole bunch of juice and it popped into my mouth! By golly that wasn't pleasant either! So I took the wick out part way, sort of separated it so 1/2 the wick is on either side of the bridge, but that didn't really help either, because then the first draw totally dried it again, and still it got pushed up into the cart. DAMN, I just don't think there's a way the darned things will work at all. Have to keep topping off the stupid thing and about every third draw you get that burned flavor. By golly that isn't pleasant either.
ANYBODY got a knack for using these things, PLEASE HELP!

 

[Sun Vaporer]

The 801 uses a slightly shorter cartridge then the RN4072 or the BE112--so it sounds like you have an 801 and are trying to use the cartridges for the RN4072. The RN4072 has a arch shaped bridge and the cartrdge can seat longer in them. Order Cartridges from BEST or www.johnsoncreeksmokejuice.com as they fit the high bridge 801 perfectly-----Sun

 

[snap6cat]

I received these "hi bridge" atomizers from e-smokeytreats under warranty, also from myvaporstore and best ecig. I wonder if the manufacturers have ALL changed to this style? Did you try just pushing the wick down a bit? that is what I am doing, the 801s seem OK but the 901s still seem wimpy even in my screwdriver.
David

 

[Kate51]

OK, here goes: thing is, 801 seems to be 801. Now, the hard-tipped carts are slightly longer than the soft-tipped ones. (The soft tip is the one that came with the attys with the high bridge, don't know if that's standard???)
BUT: the hard-tipped carts do not snap into this atty, you have to really push hard to get it on. Soft-tips go in with sort of a snap.
It does seem to work better with that high bridge, but the fit isn't ideal. That cart is longer, so seems to keep the atty from burning all the juice out dry on the first pull. But by now my mouth is so fouled with trying to get the stupid thing to work I don't much like anything about either one at this point. But after two months of being perfectly happy with my 801, all at once this is being a REAL problem.....the seller (MyVaporStore)which I have since deleted from my favorites! was a little miffed at me because I complained about them. His words were: No body else complained. Hm.
Seems like I'm the only one?????????
ANOTHER THING: My cart is NOT overfilled, but I am getting drops of juice squirting into my mouth with this atty, so is it the atty or is it the cart??
BEATS ME.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

OK, here goes: thing is, 801 seems to be 801. Now, the hard-tipped carts are slightly longer than the soft-tipped ones. (The soft tip is the one that came with the attys with the high bridge, don't know if that's standard???)
BUT: the hard-tipped carts do not snap into this atty, you have to really push hard to get it on. Soft-tips go in with sort of a snap.
It does seem to work better with that high bridge, but the fit isn't ideal. That cart is longer, so seems to keep the atty from burning all the juice out dry on the first pull. But by now my mouth is so fouled with trying to get the stupid thing to work I don't much like anything about either one at this point. But after two months of being perfectly happy with my 801, all at once this is being a REAL problem.....the seller (MyVaporStore)which I have since deleted from my favorites! was a little miffed at me because I complained about them. His words were: No body else complained. Hm.
Seems like I'm the only one?????????
ANOTHER THING: My cart is NOT overfilled, but I am getting drops of juice squirting into my mouth with this atty, so is it the atty or is it the cart??
BEATS ME.

There are two types of cartridges--it is easy to tell. If you look at the part of the cartridge that goes into the atomizer and it is smooth--then that is for an 801. If it has a ridge around the neck that goes into the atomizer then that is for a RN4072. The RN4072 has a larger diamiter and the 801 cartridges do not fit snug in them. The 801's have a small diamater and the cartriges with the ridge you have to really shove in the atomizer and they are a real pain in the .... to take in and out---

So bottom line---there is a cartridge compatibility issue and you need to use the right cartridge for your atomizer as all penstyles are not created equal------Sun

 

[Kate51]

Hey, thanks, but you know what? I AM USING THE CART THAT CAME WITH THE STUPID ATTY!
There's a heck of a fight going on in thread These things just don't work
I suspect the original poster is having the same exact problem I AM!!!!!!!!!! Those are carts for the 901, but he has the same trouble I do.

After about three draws your filler is DRY, or it spits drops of juice into your mouth.

I'm telling you, these things are ridiculous.

I have another question, are the ones from JC the soft-tipped ones or the hard-tipped?

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Hey, thanks, but you know what? I AM USING THE CART THAT CAME WITH THE STUPID ATTY!
There's a heck of a fight going on in thread These things just don't work
I suspect the original poster is having the same exact problem I AM!!!!!!!!!!

After about three draws your filler is DRY, or it spits drops of juice into your mouth.

I'm telling you, these things are ridiculous.

Kate--just because they came with the unit--does not mean they belong with the unit!!! With supply shortages, it is not unreasonable that the cartridges they gave you are not the right ones--

One think you can do is take the tip that came with the atomizer (the one that has no white sleeve that you first pulled off the atomizer when you got it) and you can take a white sleeve and pull it off one of the cartridges and snap it into that black tip--now you have a cartridge that at least fits it the diameter of your atomizer--give it a try--Sun

Add--JC's Cartridges are hard tipped--not the rubber ones

 

[Kate51]

Kate--just because they came with the unit--does not mean they belong with the unit!!! With supply shortages, it is not unreasonable that the cartridges they gave you are not the right ones--

One think you can do is take the tip that came with the atomizer (the one that has no white sleeve that you first pulled off the atomizer when you got it) and you can take a white sleeve and pull it off one of the cartridges and snap it into that black tip--now you have a cartridge that at least fits it the diameter of your atomizer--give it a try--Sun

Hey, thanks, but you know what? I AM USING THE CART THAT CAME WITH THE STUPID ATTY

! Maybe you missed that!

You know, when a person orders from a supplier and you order an 801 atomizer, this is what they send (and some empty carts) you expect they must be compatible. My 801 came from dietsmokes, so far I've had no trouble at all with those atomizers. They are the "regular" bridge. It is the HIGH bridge ones that are giving me fits. They came with the soft-tip mouthpiece. And yes, the high bridge attys are from a different supplier, so I guess therein lies the problem. But the carts that came with those are the ones I am TRYING to use.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

! Maybe you missed that!

You know, when a person orders from a supplier and you order an 801 atomizer, this is what they send (and some empty carts) you expect they must be compatible. My 801 came from dietsmokes, so far I've had no trouble at all with those atomizers. They are the "regular" bridge. It is the HIGH bridge ones that are giving me fits. They came with the soft-tip mouthpiece. And yes, the high bridge attys are from a different supplier, so I guess therein lies the problem. But the carts that came with those are the ones I am TRYING to use.

Are we talking about the same thing--I mean that dummy tip that you pulled off the atomizer when you first opened the box--most throw it away as it is not a cartridge? --Sun

 

[Kate51]

Are we talking about the same thing--I mean that dummy tip that you pulled off the atomizer when you first opened the box--most throw it away as it is not a cartridge? --Sun

I ordered two atomizers and a box of empty carts for the 801, and yes the carts ARE different, they have a soft-tipped mouthpiece. The attys are the high bridge type. I know the tip that was on the atty did not have a cart with it. But the cart that fits the soft-tipped ones do not fit the regular hard mouthpieces.
The carts that came from the same place DO fit the high bridge atty. They snap right on. They are, as you said, a tiny bit (1/16th of an inch) shorter than the hard tipped ones, and are not interchangeable.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

I ordered two atomizers and a box of empty carts for the 801, and yes the carts ARE different, they have a soft-tipped mouthpiece. The attys are the high bridge type. I know the tip that was on the atty did not have a cart with it. But the cart that fits the soft-tipped ones do not fit the regular hard mouthpieces.
The carts that came from the same place DO fit the high bridge atty. They snap right on. They are, as you said, a tiny bit (1/16th of an inch) shorter than the hard tipped ones, and are not interchangeable.

So it seems you were sent 801 atomizers and some RN4072 cartridges--well you only need a couple as you can restuff them with new polyfill or use the teabags--so you should be good so long as you have a couple that fit ---but give Parked an e-mail--he will take care of it for you--tell him Sun said you would!!!! ----Sun

 

[Kate51]

So it seems you were sent 801 atomizers and some RN4072 cartridges--well you only need a couple as you can restuff them with new polyfill or use the teabags--so you should be good so long as you have a couple that fit ---but give Parked an e-mail--he will take care of it for you--tell him Sun said you would!!!! ----Sun

Yes, just got some from Parked, they are the good ones. But was trying to save those back for my JANTY STICK)
I don't know why I got the high bridge attys, ORDERED 801 (MyVaporStore), I think somebody pulled my leg on that one, but they are horrid. I have not seen and RN4072 so could NOT tell you about that.

 

[Kate51]

THANKS for your help, I just put the darned things away and got out a good one from Parked, this is the way it should be!

 

[snap6cat]

Now I am confused! My original question was is this a design change at the manufacturer in both the 801 and 901? I have no problem with the diameter of the old or new style, it is all the carts I have received from 4 suppliers do not slide in, the hi bridge interferes hitting the cart wool. Any suggestions? Certainly do not want to start a ruckus, this is only my experience.
David

 

[HockerMagnum]

Have had NJoy 4072 for a week. Got two 801 attys and batts in mail today.

Use only Wilton VG and LorAnn Wintergreen personal mix.

Was a heavy pipe smoker personal blend of vanilla, cherry and bulk menthol cigarette tobacco.

Found myself using the NJoy like a passifyer trying to smoke it like a pipe. Needless to say I went through several cart refills and battery recharges a day. Began to use it more like a cigarette, take a few drags and put down, and discovered more satisfaction and less frustration.

Got two 801 high bridge atomizers and batteries in mail today. Made a cartridge from 4072 cart body and coffee filter. Have been using it couple of times an hour since. Think I stumbled on to the secret with these. Laying it down horazontally between vapes allows surface tension to wick the juice into the high bridge. About 8 drags and it begins to dry out but lay it down and come back half hour later and it is loaded for another vape.

The high bridge itself will hold 5 drops of heavy dripped on liquid and deliver 3 sessions of eight drags not little puffs. The 3rd time vapor begins to taper off with last couple of pulls.

Know I'm a newbie but that's what I have experienced so far.

HockerMag

 

[Kate51]

Have had NJoy 4072 for a week. Got two 801 attys and batts in mail today.

Use only Wilton VG and LorAnn Wintergreen personal mix.

Was a heavy pipe smoker personal blend of vanilla, cherry and bulk menthol cigarette tobacco.

Found myself using the NJoy like a passifyer trying to smoke it like a pipe. Needless to say I went through several cart refills and battery recharges a day. Began to use it more like a cigarette, take a few drags and put down, and discovered more satisfaction and less frustration.

Got two 801 high bridge atomizers and batteries in mail today. Made a cartridge from 4072 cart body and coffee filter. Have been using it couple of times an hour since. Think I stumbled on to the secret with these. Laying it down horazontally between vapes allows surface tension to wick the juice into the high bridge. About 8 drags and it begins to dry out but lay it down and come back half hour later and it is loaded for another vape.

The high bridge itself will hold 5 drops of heavy dripped on liquid and deliver 3 sessions of eight drags not little puffs. The 3rd time vapor begins to taper off with last couple of pulls.

Know I'm a newbie but that's what I have experienced so far.

HockerMag

Thanks, you just repeated my complaint about the cart getting dry after a few puffs. I don't know what the answer is, I just put the high bridges away, the heck with it. Was spoiling everything and making me literally ill.
I measured down from the top of the atty to the bridge, high ones apparently take a much shorter cartridge that the low ones. Something just not right. Too frustrating.

 

[motorcity57]

after doing as much research as i could, and it was a lot for me, i read hundreds of posts , visited and considered many suppliers and many different styles of e-cigs. i finally decided that the dse901 was the way i should go. i am not a big spender , you might even call me a tight wad, lol. i did not want to take any chances of buying from china so i made my order from myvaporstore. my order arrived in 2 days. big plus for that. decided i needed more stuff within the first week so ordered some assorted juices, extra atty's and a pass-thru. same thing arrived in 2 days. wtg myvaporstore.
now as to performance, being a noob there was a learning curve, little tricks and experimentation. now to talk about my problems. i can only get a couple good hits outta the darn thing. i see the vid's where they are blowing big clouds of vapor, well i wish. and if i dont get that throat hit then it is just a waste, cause that is what i crave the most. i have resorted to just have 3 batts, on 3 atty's and 3 carts, standing battery side up, couple hits on 1 then on to the next, and the next. it seems to me like they need a rest in between use, not a big deal , at least i'm off the analogs.
not real happy with the pass-thru, it only supplies current for about 5 seconds, by the time i take my primer puff and start to get my hit it starts to blink and cuts off the heat, which i'm sure is just a safety feature, oh well.
so this is where i am at, now i ask for advice from more experienced members. next week i plan on trying a different model to see if i can get better results. whats it going to be? good throat & good vapor. tell me what you have, and how good it is. and where i might purchase it because myvaporstore only carries the 901 & 801. if they had more that would be my vendor, i dont see why the other posters had problems with them but my experience was good.

PEACE

 

[HockerMagnum]

Thanks, you just repeated my complaint about the cart getting dry after a few puffs. I don't know what the answer is, I just put the high bridges away, the heck with it. Was spoiling everything and making me literally ill.
I measured down from the top of the atty to the bridge, high ones apparently take a much shorter cartridge that the low ones. Something just not right. Too frustrating.

You know I don't remember how many drags and inhales I used to get ftom a cigarette but I puffed on the pipe almost constantly just to keep it lit. Needless to say e-cigs don't work that way. I'm finding it to be quite an adjustment. I now keep 2 units primed and ready at all times.

I have a feeling that if atomizer design doesn't make a giant leap forward soon this vaping substitute may turn out to be a flash in the pan. Can't see anyone else going to this much trouble for my habit when I'm no longer able to do it for myself.

 

[allure]

I have got high bridge 801 atomizer with the original kit and flat bridge atomizer as an extra. I like my high bridge since it touches the polly stuff and uses all liquid from the cartridge where as the other flat one is good for first 10 puffs and then i need to refill the cart or drip into it.

As many of you hate it, I really like the new design which gives consistent puffs since the wick goes into polly stuff where as other one melts your plastic polly holder.

I mean I had problem with the flat one, every time I take polly stuff out for refilling I see there is a white stuff attached to it at the bottom like some kind of plastic melted. after I started using the high bridge which is kind of pointed, I never had the melting problem.