New Sub Ohm Battery Chart

[Steam Turbine]

Efest needs to take a serious look into thier ratings if they are saying 20A. Even 10A is WAY too much for these.

If I were to make a recommendation...5A would be the limit until there are some tests showing better results. Above 7A is getting into an overload condition.

I cant seem to find any good test on the efest 30amp... Are you awar of any?

 

[dr g]

There has to be a higher amp limit 18350 out there somewhere!!

Why? Smaller batteries simply have less amp capacity, on a non-linear basis.

 

[Steam Turbine]

Why? Smaller batteries simply have less amp capacity, on a non-linear basis.

They also have have a smaller amp limit, can't push em as hard.

 

[dr g]

They also have have a smaller amp limit, can't push em as hard.

that's what i meant, i guess i used unclear language. amp supply capacity or capability.

 

[Rader2146]

I cant seem to find any good test on the efest 30amp... Are you awar of any?

Lygte-Info has them in the comparator but the full review doesn't seem to be published yet.

http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Efest IMR18650 1600mAh V1 (Red) 2014 UK.html

From what the comparator shows, it's comparable to the AW 1600 but falls off at the higher currents. 30A might be slightly over-ambitious.

 

[louis]

Where do you get AW IMR 18350 taht are rated at 700 mah? All i havr seen & bought state 600 mah on the battery.

 

[vapero]

Efest needs to take a serious look into thier ratings if they are saying 20A. Even 10A is WAY too much for these.

If I were to make a recommendation...5A would be the limit until there are some tests showing better results. Above 7A is getting into an overload condition.

please someone explain this chart to me, I'm really good understanding stuff I just sometimes need a first push

 

[Rader2146]

please someone explain this chart to me, I'm really good understanding stuff I just sometimes need a first push

The chart shows the discharge curve over time. In that chart there are 2 sets of curves (5A and 10A) with 4 batteries in each set (2 V1's and 2 V2') for a total of 8 curves. Key things to note are the steep voltage drop at the left, indicating an overload condition, and that the capacity @ 10A is FAR less than the 5A curve, proving the overload condition.


Here is a chart of the Efest vs a true 10A capable CGR18650CH.

Lots more to play around with here...
Battery test-review 18650 comparator

 

[JayTater]

Why? Smaller batteries simply have less amp capacity, on a non-linear basis.

Because not everyone wants to carry around a 650 mod everywhere. Other than my REO, all of my rigs are set up in 350 mode for smaller stance. I do keep them at .8+ though.

 

[Baditude]

Where do you get AW IMR 18350 taht are rated at 700 mah? All i havr seen & bought state 600 mah on the battery.

I don't know where you're buying your batteries from. Genuine AW 18350 IMR batteries have a 700 mAh capacity:

AW IMR 18350 3.7V 700mAh - Batteries

 

[gingersnaps]

Thanks for getting back about them. Ya I Think I will start switching my batteries out to something else. With results like that I'm not sure i should trust any of their batteries. So far I've only had them on 1.2 ohm or higher but want to have the right ones if i get a notion to try lower.

 

[nemoishouse]

So... Once in a while there are people asking which batteries can be used for x resistance.

Using the battery list provided by Baditude, I have created a chart.

Hope this will be helpful to some of you.

PS: If you find any errors on this chart, please contact me so I can correct them.

Sub Ohm Battery Chart

EDIT: Corrected version. MNKE battery changed from 10 to 20 amps (thanks Baditude)


PS: To make sure you get the latest revision, clear your browsing history.

I've used this more than once already!! Thanks


Vape on!!

 

[crxess]

No information or inclusion of the MNKE 18650 - 30/60 amp?

 

[Baditude]

No information or inclusion of the MNKE 18650 - 30/60 amp?

This battery has been discontinued.

 

[Ryedan]

This battery has been discontinued.

Someone bought one in the last couple of days, so it's still being sold by some retailers.

 

[crxess]

Someone bought one in the last couple of days, so it's still being sold by some retailers.

There are still a ton of them available. Takes a while to deplete stock.

I picked up 2, should be here Tues. - Not really into Sub Ohm but figured for the price a few High end batteries wouldn't hurt.

 

[Baditude]

Someone bought one in the last couple of days, so it's still being sold by some retailers.

Yeah, while searching vendors who typically sell the MNKE I found that most of them are out of stock, and RTD Vapor said that the battery is no longer being manufactured. There are actually better choices out now (the newer hybrid batteries with 22 - 30 amps and higher mAh ratings) than the MNKE. I've also read that AW will be discontinuing the AW 18650 IMR 1600 mAh 24 amp battery.

 

[Steam Turbine]

There are still a ton of them available. Takes a while to deplete stock.

I picked up 2, should be here Tues. - Not really into Sub Ohm but figured for the price a few High end batteries wouldn't hurt.

I would say, regardless of the price, regardless of the resistance... High end batteries should always be used

 

[UncleChuck]

I would say, regardless of the price, regardless of the resistance... High end batteries should always be used

Indeed!

I see no logical reason anyone should be using ANYTHING below AW batteries these days. They are cheap, they are plentiful, there is literally no excuse for using janky ICRs these days.

 

[Baditude]

Indeed!

I see no logical reason anyone should be using ANYTHING below AW batteries these days. They are cheap, they are plentiful, there is literally no excuse for using janky ICRs these days.

I agree, there is no reason to use protected ICR batteries. IMR and hybrid batteries are safer and better performers for both mechanical and regulated mods.