New Super Concentrated Flavors

[Katdarling]

For the new DIY'ers. It's really REALLY simple. Prep your juice base w/ nicotine. If you have 100 mg/ml nicotine, to make 10ml you can measure 1 ml of the nicotine plus 15 drops of vodka and then almost fill the bottle with VG, to make a 10mg/ml mostly VG juice. Then drip in one drop flavoring for every milliliter of juice, so 10 drops. That's a little under 2.5% and works well for most of them. Shake and shake under a running hot water tap. Then leave in a cup of hot water for a while. End of story. If you can, set it aside for a few days to "steep" further, it will mellow out.

Fernand, are you causing trouble again?

Actually for NEW DIYers, I really don't agree with your information. I am a fairly new DIYer but I already know that working with 100mg nic is not the best idea. I would never recommend that to a newb. It is currently agreed that it is safer to dilute the nic down to at minimum a 36mg strength. I did purchase 100mg nic juice at one point, but the sight of me wrapped up in garb like I worked in a HazMat facility almost did me in (and my dog was staring at me in a funny way). I now pay a bit more but buy 36mg, or tops, 60mg nic.

Just my opinion, sweets.

 

[MrBeo]

Just my opinion,

Something everyone has a right to (inside joke)
and its smart to stay in your comfort Zone! I keep thinking of a way to help on the Cream but I used soooo much of my bottle....

 

[AzPlumber]

Something everyone has a right to and its smart to stay in your comfort Zone! I keep thinking of a way to help on the Cream but I used soooo much of my bottle....

I never ordered any cream or I would

 

[Shilo]

I don't have the cream yet either darnit The addiction never ends with these. When it was on the site it sold pretty fast---musta been Beo hogging it....lol

 

[nuggetz]

No doubt-- no vodka here! I once tried to clean the cartos with vodka---never again.

I clean my cartos by drawing hot water thru it using a large syringe with vinyl tubing attached to the end. The carto with one of those fat ming style drip tips makes a tight seal in the tubing. I draw water in and out and do the same with clean Everclear afterwards so I don't contaminate the expensive alcohol. The alcohol displaces the water and the carto dries really quick. I've also glued a 510 connector to a small piece of wood which I screw the carto onto after the alcohol rinse and attach it to my wood lathe and run it at max speed. Centrifugal force gets all the liquid out after 30 seconds and they're ready to use again.



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[MrBeo]

I don't have the cream yet either darnit The addiction never ends with these. When it was on the site it sold pretty fast---musta been Beo hogging it....lol

Now I can't live without it! This Cream does so much with so little in Mixes that beg for Cream.

 

[Leothwyn]

Vz SnickerDoodle. I just tried this after making a batch on Monday (3 Days ago) and it taste close to like the smell of it made [not the concentrate] but the vapeable done juice. Not a Snickers candy bar here and it reminds me of some Holiday cookie flavor, I've never had a snickerdoodle cookie to judge by but this is giving me thoughts of RED, Green & Yellow Sugar toppings on a cookie! It is good and does make a nice treat vape and needs nothing added to it to make it right and this also would work well in some recipes

I'm going to have to try this. There were a couple of snickerdoodle juices that I liked back before starting DIY, but they killed cartos so fast, I gave them up. I imagine a VZ version would be better in that respect. Sounds like a nice base for other cookie recipes too (the FA cookie just never did anything for me, and I haven't tried any other cookie flavors).

 

[Shilo]

I clean my cartos by drawing hot water thru it using a large syringe with vinyl tubing attached to the end. The carto with one of those fat ming style drip tips makes a tight seal in the tubing. I draw water in and out and do the same with clean Everclear afterwards so I don't contaminate the expensive alcohol. The alcohol displaces the water and the carto dries really quick. I've also glued a 510 connector to a small piece of wood which I screw the carto onto after the alcohol rinse and attach it to my wood lathe and run it at max speed. Centrifugal force gets all the liquid out after 30 seconds and they're ready to use again.



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Glad something is working for you. I managed to get another day and a half tops out of a carto after finding my preferred cleaning method and even with that it never hits the same way again---kinda like old age for a carto. LOL

The issue is gunk builds up on the bottom coil/coils area -- not just dirty filler. No matter what you do these are pretty much made to be disposable.

 

[mgmrick]

I'm going to have to try this. There were a couple of snickerdoodle juices that I liked back before starting DIY, but they killed cartos so fast, I gave them up. I imagine a VZ version would be better in that respect. Sounds like a nice base for other cookie recipes too (the FA cookie just never did anything for me, and I haven't tried any other cookie flavors).

Everyone is so excited about the flavor from the vz super concentrated that this does not get talked about very much.

Yes indeed the vz super concentrated flavors are very kind to carto's and atties

 

[Shilo]

Now I can't live without it! This Cream does so much with so little in Mixes that beg for Cream.

This is starting to sound dirty.

 

[the ob]

Ok. Tried my raspberry today after waiting since Sunday.

It's only a single flavor, but I have to say not too shabby.

Still a tiny bit perfumey, but mellowing a bit.

I wonder what it would be good to mix with?

 

[Katdarling]

Cream, perhaps?

 

[the ob]

Cream, perhaps?

Your on a Creme kick for sure

 

[sinnyc]

No wonder your description on the flavors are different than alot of ours---the vodka thinning. Well whatever works for you I guess.

No doubt making negative reviews or reviews that are way off what other's are reporting

One word

OK

I use PGA to thin certain very high VG juices I make for my rebuildable atomoizers and notice no difference in taste. High proof vodka would be virtually identical. Besides, VZ's flavors are alcohol based. They probably aren't using vodka but they are almost certainly using some sort of very high proof neutral spirit like grain alcohol. Why do you think the addition of alcohol would significantly change the flavor?

- Tim

 

[mgmrick]

I use PGA to thin certain very high VG juices I make for my rebuildable atomoizers and notice no difference in taste. High proof vodka would be virtually identical. Besides, VZ's flavors are alcohol based. They probably aren't using vodka but they are almost certainly using some sort of very high proof neutral spirit like grain alcohol. Why do you think the addition of alcohol would significantly change the flavor?

- Tim

Based on adding it to my mixes in the past. I do indeed taste it when adding it to my mixes

But maybe just me

 

[sinnyc]

Based on adding it to my mixes in the past. I do indeed taste it when adding it to my mixes

But maybe just me

Correct, it may just be you. Regardless, there's no reason to impugn anyone's opinion. After all, taste is completely subjective.

- Tim

 

[Shilo]

I use PGA to thin certain very high VG juices I make for my rebuildable atomoizers and notice no difference in taste. High proof vodka would be virtually identical. Besides, VZ's flavors are alcohol based. They probably aren't using vodka but they are almost certainly using some sort of very high proof neutral spirit like grain alcohol. Why do you think the addition of alcohol would significantly change the flavor?

- Tim

Are you using that method with the VZ flavors? I'd like to hear from someone who has vaped the VZ flavors both ways. It seems to me diluting PG based flavors with alcohol might be a little different than diluting an alcohol based flavor further with alcohol. I will wait to hear more opinions if anyone else uses this method on VZ flavorings. All Rick was saying was that he tried it and he can taste a difference. Stands to reason it might change someone's opinions on a taste with more alcohol in it.

 

[sinnyc]

Are you using that method with the VZ flavors? I'd like to hear from someone who has vaped the VZ flavors both ways. It seems to me diluting PG based flavors with alcohol might be a little different than diluting an alcohol based flavor further with alcohol. I will wait to hear more opinions if anyone else uses this method on VZ flavorings. All Rick was saying was that he tried it and he can taste a difference. Stands to reason it might change someone's opinions on a taste with more alcohol in it.

Nope, I haven't tried any dilution of VZ's flavorings but then again I don't vape at 90+% vg like Fernand does.

- Tim

 

[MrBeo]

Darn it - I forgot! Congrats jimi D on this thread passing 200
its still a baby and has TONS of room to grow and I will be here at 300, 400 etc...

 

[Cyrus Vap]

I am not a fan of ETOH dilution period, because like Rick I can taste it without question. The only thing I can use ETOH for is 1)menthol crystals 2) tobacco absolute, because they're both so strong even 195% alcohol doesn't stand a chance of shining through, and they're used at 1 drop/5 ml anyway

So yeah, I agree. ETOH is a flavor unto itself.