New to Cartomizers Question

[Lolli]

I just ordered 5 cartos from provape and one of the reviews said they last 1 week. it also said will hold 15ml of liquid. Is this reviewer out of their mind or is this true?
This is all new to me as I have been a Protank girl from the start

I was under the impression cartos were good for dripping and held less liquid than a 3.5 ml tank.

Can someone give me a carto down low please

 

[bacc.vap]

I don't know exactly what you got , but the xxl's they show hold 1.4mls, so the regular size would be even less.
Cartomizers are not for dripping, plain old atomizers are. You'd fill the cartomizer with about 1.4mls of liquid, then vape til it needs a refill. How long it will last depends a lot on the liquid your using. I'm not a carto user, so won't go into specifics about their longevity.

 

[Lolli]

thank you, that sounds much more reasonable. I am ordering them from the provape site

 

[BillyWJ]

I don't know exactly what you got , but the xxl's they show hold 1.4mls, so the regular size would be even less.
Cartomizers are not for dripping, plain old atomizers are. You'd fill the cartomizer with about 1.4mls of liquid, then vape til it needs a refill. How long it will last depends a lot on the liquid your using. I'm not a carto user, so won't go into specifics about their longevity.

Okay, let's clean up some terms here:

Atomizer: a coil and wick that boils (atomizes) liquid to produce vapor.

Cartomizer: a metal tube containing an atomizer, and polyfill or wadding to hold liquid, to feed the wick.

Everything we use, has an atomizer in it, regardless if it's a cartomizer, clearo tank, or RBA.

A dripping carto simply means it isn't punched on the side for using in a tank. You could use a punched carto for dripping, if you plugged the holes. They are exactly the same, except for the holes in the side, and dripping cartos can have a black covering on the outside - and there are "bridgeless" cartos made specifically for dripping.

 

[BillyWJ]

I just ordered 5 cartos from provape and one of the reviews said they last 1 week. it also said will hold 15ml of liquid. Is this reviewer out of their mind or is this true?
This is all new to me as I have been a Protank girl from the start

I was under the impression cartos were good for dripping and held less liquid than a 3.5 ml tank.

Can someone give me a carto down low please

Could you link what you were looking at? I've never seen a 15ml tank, I suspect it's a type, 1.5ml sound more realistic.

What are you intending to do? Drip, or use a carto tank? Both uses cartomizers, but for a tank you'll need punched cartos, they have small holes in the side to allow liquid to flow in from the tank around it.

If you're a ProTank girl, you may love carto tanks - they produce more vapor, more flavor, and are worry-free - once you prime it correctly, you can go for over a week on one carto. You can't really switch flavors very well on them, but if you just want to use one flavor all day with no fiddling, they're the way to go.

Baditude has an excellent primer on them:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/4830-8-cartotank-help-noob.html

I personally have used Smok cartos in Smok DCT tanks for a while, and they're great.

 

[CommaHolly]

probably a typo,,,,1.5 vs 15.

 

[sdennislee]

You don't say which cargo you ordered. Are they just the cartos or are they cartos in a tank.

If it's a cargo in a tank you could get up to around 5 ml with the tank.

Without the tank an XXL (45mm long) should be around 1.2 to 1.5. Dual coil cartos tend to have more poly fill than a single coil in the same size carto, the poly fill comes further up the length of the carto and holds a touch more. Obviously the XXL 45mm carto will hold more than the Standard 35mm carto.

The only thing I know that holds 15ml is a bottle.

 

[Lolli]

Could you link what you were looking at? I've never seen a 15ml tank, I suspect it's a type, 1.5ml sound more realistic.

What are you intending to do? Drip, or use a carto tank? Both uses cartomizers, but for a tank you'll need punched cartos, they have small holes in the side to allow liquid to flow in from the tank around it.

If you're a ProTank girl, you may love carto tanks - they produce more vapor, more flavor, and are worry-free - once you prime it correctly, you can go for over a week on one carto. You can't really switch flavors very well on them, but if you just want to use one flavor all day with no fiddling, they're the way to go.

Baditude has an excellent primer on them:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/4830-8-cartotank-help-noob.html

I personally have used Smok cartos in Smok DCT tanks for a while, and they're great.

Looks like they may have meant 15ml over the course of a week or so. The review is 3rd one down on the page. Had to read it a few times to get the gist....

510 LR Cartomizer for Electronic Cigaratte.

 

[Lolli]

Yeah, Im just going for the cartos to use on my Provari. Not unsatisfied with my pT, just reading about how cartos offer more flavor and has me wanting to experiment

 

[Lolli]

To clarify my plan... just starting with cartos to see if it really does increase the flavor, then maybe move onto the cart tank system (like IBTANKED)

 

[BillyWJ]

To clarify my plan... just starting with cartos to see if it really does increase the flavor, then maybe move onto the cart tank system (like IBTANKED)

Sounds like a good plan. I use 510 unpunched for dripping, I'm dripping Boba's Bounty right now. I also use carto tanks for all day stuff. I ordered a small mountain of sample sized flavors, I'd never have gotten to most of them without the drippers.

 

[sdennislee]

To clarify my plan... just starting with cartos to see if it really does increase the flavor, then maybe move onto the cart tank system (like IBTANKED)

Have you considered the SmokTech Glass Pyrex DCT? You can use with single or dual coil cartos in it. I like the single coil cartos from Ikenvape.

SmokTech Glass Tank

Fusion Series

 

[Lolli]

Have you considered the SmokTech Glass Pyrex DCT? You can use with single or dual coil cartos in it. I like the single coil cartos from Ikenvape.

SmokTech Glass Tank

Fusion Series

Thanks for the links, I am considering all options at this point Am in the "experiment" stage.
I could keep on keeping on with my current set up but am now on the "let's see what else is out there" mode.

Thanks for the links

 

[yzer]

I used 510 cartos alone for a year before moving to carto tanks. Smok (Smoktech) single coil 1.7 or 2.0 ohm XL have been my long-time favorite. These hold 1.8 ml of juice. Top them off frequently for the longest life and best vapor. The 1.7 ohm will make a lot of nice vapor in the 6-7 watt range but requires extra attention to topping off. Vaping a 1.7 ohm down 1/2 way will probably burn it.

Smok began making XL cartos years before Boge tried it. Boge only made standard cartos for a long time. Boge calls XL cartos XXL, go figure. Both are 510, 45mm in length and 9mm OD. When measuring cartos the length of the 510 base is not included, only the length of the reservoir tube.

I usually ran 15ml of liquid through a Smok carto before changing it out. With a carto tank I get about 20ml through them.

 

[bacc.vap]

10 char for some reason

Okay, let's clean up some terms here: Don't think my terms need cleaned, some of yours yours might though.

Atomizer: a coil and wick that boils (atomizes) liquid to produce vapor. Your correct, but the general usage of the term "Atomizer" or "Atty" for short, typically means a standard atomizer the type of which was originally used with a cartridge(cart for short). They had bridges for the liquid to travel to the coil. Now some of these are made without bridges to use for direct dripping.
Cartomizer: a metal tube containing an atomizer, and polyfill or wadding to hold liquid, to feed the wick. Yes

Everything we use, has an atomizer in it, regardless if it's a cartomizer, clearo tank, or RBA. Yes, all these have an Atty or coil in them.

A dripping carto simply means it isn't punched on the side for using in a tank. You could use a punched carto for dripping, if you plugged the holes. They are exactly the same, except for the holes in the side, and dripping cartos can have a black covering on the outside - and there are "bridgeless" cartos made specifically for dripping. I've never in 2 and a half years heard of the term "Dripping cartomizer". Yes, you have to drip the liquid in to fill up the poly or whatever fill it has, but the term "dripping" is generally not used for cartomizers, it's used for regular Attys. There is no such thing as a "bridgless cartomizer", cartos never have had bridges, regular attys do. You're confusing terms.You can find countless threads on ECF to back up these term definitions.

 

[Traver]

Actually you were almost right. Originally cartos were a two piece juice delivery device. One piece was the atomizer and the second piece a tube that held the liquid. When you put them together the filling in the tube would wick the liquid to the coil. At that time a lot of people like me used that atomizer by itself for dripping.

 

[Traver]

I've never in 2 and a half years heard of the term "Dripping cartomizer".

I don't think it was a term but it refers to taking the plug off at the coil end of a CE2 and using for dripping.

 

[jersey_emt]

Actually you were almost right. Originally cartos were a two piece juice delivery device. One piece was the atomizer and the second piece a tube that held the liquid. When you put them together the filling in the tube would wick the liquid to the coil. At that time a lot of people like me used that atomizer by itself for dripping.

Incorrect. You are confusing cartomizers with the old cartridge + atomizer systems like the original Joyetech 510. These have an atomizer (which can be used by itself for dripping) and a cartridge which contains filler material for holding juice and delivering it to the atomizer.

Cartomizers came later, and, as the name suggests, are a single piece combining the atomizer and the cartridge. They contain both an atomizer, and the filler material to hold juice, in one single unit.

 

[yzer]

What 510 cartos (cartomizers) are.

Drip tip and Smok XL carto on an E-power 14650. The eGo cone is removed in this photo.

Same thing with eGo cone screwed on.

Same Drip tip and Smok XL carto punched and in use with a IBtanked carto tank.

 

[Lolli]

What 510 cartos (cartomizers) are.

Drip tip and Smok XL carto on an E-power 14650. The eGo cone is removed in this photo.

Same thing with eGo cone screwed on.

Same Drip tip and Smok XL carto punched and in use with a IBtanked carto tank.

Thanks for the photos