Im new to the forum, but not to vaping. I started last year with the v4l classic, both automatic and manual, with standard carts, and quit when i realized it would take a while for liquid to get to me in the mail, (I'm stationed in Okinawa, and the military mail adds at minimum a week to the shipping process) and i gave up on it until recently. I'm using the v4l OMG mod with a 5ml tank, and I'm enjoying it so far.