New to this- kind of dumb question

[Singapore Sling]

Hey guys and gals I have a question. It seems that the answer would be obvious but... I just want to be sure.

If a cart is 18mg- that is the total nicotine content of the entire thing right?

I just seem to be vaping more then smoking but I don't want to get too much nicotine. So like, if I vaped the entire thing I would still be well within the safe range of nicotine consumption?



Thanks in advance.

 

[mwahle1]

Yes and no. The nicotine juice is labeled as mg of nicotine per ml of liquid (mg / ml).

If you are talking about the pre-filled cartomizers they contain about a ml of liquid which would contain 18 mg of nicotine. If you are talking about other carts, I am not too sure how much liquid they come pre-filled with.

 

[highping]

Welcome to the forum SS!

mg rating refers to the milligrams of nicotine in a milliliter of liquid (mg/ml)
The amount in a cart will depend on how much liquid is in the cart.

As for a 'safe' level. I think many are aprehensive of over doing it at first, but then come to discover that it's not all that "dangerous" to try high levels. I vape 36mg all the time. When I first started, I had read all kinds of things that had me a little scared to try higher nics. But then once I did, I realized it's no big deal. I have even vaped 60mg just to try it. That's a little high..throat hit is way too big.
My point is get some higher nic juice and just take it slow. One hit of 24, 36 is not going to hurt anyone. Just take it a hit at a time with a little time in between hits to see how it affects you.

Edit: Just wanted to add.... While nicotine in its pure form is very toxic and deadly, in the diluted forms of e-juices it is not so much. Combine that with the fact that the absorption rate when inhaling the vapor is less (and more controllable) than, say, drinking it (don't drink it).
Even if you vape a super high nic level (like 60), if you take it slow, you will get signs of od (hicups, nausea, etc.) long before you are in any danger. If you see these signs you are likely to stop for a bit anyway. My point, you are not going to OD vaping, so just take it at whatever pace you are comfortable with.

 

[potholerepairman]

Very individual thing for me.Use to smoke two or more packs of ultra lights when "going out" for the night once a week.Now ,Vaping just as often 6 mg makes me feel like its too much sometimes.I don't vape/smoke unless going out about once a week so my tolerence to nic in vaper form seems to be pretty low.Know its a little off topic hope it helps.I would be scared to go out with high nic e-juice where in the past(smoking days) if i had to smoke regular marlboro for the night it wouldnt worry me.

 

[tarkus]

From my experience and also what I read here you really cannot compare levels in analogs and ecigs. People inhale both analogs and ecigs differently. Also absorption rates are different for the two of them. Different analogs and ecigs will give different output. Just find a level you are comfortable with.

 

[Wolf]

There used to be a chart for comparison. Jaaxx made it up and it gave you an approximate place to start with nicotine strength based on what brand of cigs you smoked. I must go check and see if I can find it.

 

[Singapore Sling]

Thanks for all the helpful information. I am using pre-filled cartomizers from V4L. Before I would smoke 5-10 cigarettes per day- not a lot compared with a lot of the people I read about. Usually more towards 5- very rarely 10. But it was having adverse affects on my health all the same. I was smoking either Marlboro menthols or Maverick menthols.

Bit im really enjoying this vaping thing its great. I think I will order some 0mg carts for fun.

Also, this is an odd question i know but hear me out: A lot of eliquid flavors are sweet... is that all artificial or do they contain sugars or what? I really have no idea.

 

[mwahle1]

The base (the PG) imparts a somewhat sweet taste, even for the tobacco flavors.

 

[Kurt]

Thanks for all the helpful information. I am using pre-filled cartomizers from V4L. Before I would smoke 5-10 cigarettes per day- not a lot compared with a lot of the people I read about. Usually more towards 5- very rarely 10. But it was having adverse affects on my health all the same. I was smoking either Marlboro menthols or Maverick menthols.

Bit im really enjoying this vaping thing its great. I think I will order some 0mg carts for fun.

Also, this is an odd question i know but hear me out: A lot of eliquid flavors are sweet... is that all artificial or do they contain sugars or what? I really have no idea.

Both PG and VG are sweetish. Some flavors are sweet too. Tobacco flavor can sometimes be sweet, sometimes not. There is no sugar in the juices, as that would cake up the atty and not vape well.

Welcome, BTW! Vaping is a great thing, for sure. And I agree with the above comments: can't tell from your smoking habits what you will be happiest in terms of nic. Too much will make you too jazzed up and kinda sick feeling. Too little and you'll be wanting analogs. It takes a while to find your right level. That level also depends, besides the physiological stuff tarkus mentioned, on how well your PV vapes in general, thickness of the liquid, how you hit, etc. Just find what works and enjoy.

 

[dreamweaver3913]

There used to be a chart for comparison. Jaaxx made it up and it gave you an approximate place to start with nicotine strength based on what brand of cigs you smoked. I must go check and see if I can find it.

I remember seeing the chart as well... here is what I can remember:

Pack/day analogs - start with 18mg
1/2 pack/day analogs - start with 11mg

I personally started with 11mg with the thinking that you get 20 mg (I don't remember exact numbers but I think 20 is close...) from a pack of analogs and I thought I would use two carts/day at 1ml ea = 22 mg........ THIS DIDN'T WORK AT ALL! I went back to analogs almost instantly. I used analogs for another six months before I started to have serious breathing issues and thought I'd try vaping again. That time it worked because I used 18mg.

...Moral of the story is everyone is different so try some different levels. 18mg was right for me. Now I don't even think about analogs and have started to detest them (I now hate the smell when I used to love it! 8-o)

 

[DC2]

From my experience and also what I read here you really cannot compare levels in analogs and ecigs. People inhale both analogs and ecigs differently. Also absorption rates are different for the two of them. Different analogs and ecigs will give different output. Just find a level you are comfortable with.

This is the correct answer.

 

[DC2]

Also, this is an odd question i know but hear me out: A lot of eliquid flavors are sweet... is that all artificial or do they contain sugars or what? I really have no idea.

My experience is that the Vapor4Life cartomizers often have an underlying perfume taste.
I have come to believe that is because they use Dekang juice.

Since you smoked about the same amount of cigarettes as me, I suggest getting some of the NHaler High Voltage juice which is 12mg strength and it tastes fantastic and it gives a lot of vapor.

 

[I B BOB]

You are totally right with your moral of the story Dreamweaver, Highping is also right on the money with any OD concerns.
Nicotine is absorbed into your system, so, fingers wet with juice, carts spitting on your lips, vapor in your mouth and lungs all take it into your system. There has to be a difference in analogs and vaping as to effectiveness of each delivery method, the analog must include many more factors (ie. temp, other chemicals, etc..) but vaping would seem to be more efficient.

It certainly seems to me that vaping is not as quick but it seems to last longer. Does that sound strange to anyone else?

 

[DC2]

But vaping would seem to be more efficient.

Most information I've seen points to vaping being significantly less efficient.
That is one reason why so many people go higher in nicotine strength to solve satisfaction issues.

But another reason is clearly developing, and that is the other chemicals and such in cigarettes.
Things like MAOIs and freebase nicotine and the other 4000 chemicals we no longer inhale.

It certainly seems to me that vaping is not as quick but it seems to last longer. Does that sound strange to anyone else?

That actually seems to be completely correct and accurate.
And there are a number of well-documented reasons for that floating around here.

 

[maxx]

There was a PDF posted around here recently showing the test results comparing an E-cig with an anlog. The report said that the e-cig only delivered 10% of the nicotine that the analog delivered. Explains why I, as a heavy smoker, needed to go to 36mg to get to where I wasn't wanting to burn a real one.

 

[Kurt]

You are totally right with your moral of the story Dreamweaver, Highping is also right on the money with any OD concerns.
Nicotine is absorbed into your system, so, fingers wet with juice, carts spitting on your lips, vapor in your mouth and lungs all take it into your system. There has to be a difference in analogs and vaping as to effectiveness of each delivery method, the analog must include many more factors (ie. temp, other chemicals, etc..) but vaping would seem to be more efficient.

It certainly seems to me that vaping is not as quick but it seems to last longer. Does that sound strange to anyone else?

Not even close to strange. Much of the absorption is oral, rather than lungs. So it is a more delayed onset, and more lingering in duration. Smoking has a much higher lung absorption, so is a faster onset, and shorter in duration.