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aewolfe

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Hello,
I have smoked for almost 30 years and found a product called cigotine at a mall. After I did some research I purchased the device. So far I am happy but I have a few more questions which I hope can me answered here. I have read the forums and the newbie area but did not find what I Was looking for.
Is this product a good one? I have zero experience with this. I like how the nicotine is in a pre made cartridge since I would probably kill myself if I tried to make my own.
Is it ok to still smoke an analog or do I have to choose once over the other. Similar to the patch.
I am going to speak with my Dr tomorrow and see how he feels about my use of this device. I suspect it will be fine with him. I work at Boston Univeristy and I seem to recall a paper here within the forums from a Dr at BU who felt that such devices are not such a bad thing.
Within the University we have a program to help people quit smoking. Aids such as patched and gums are free and I believe these devices are also covered. I'll post on the later on when I get some more information.
The product documentation states that one cartridge is approx two packs of analogs. I smoke the device the same way that I do an analog. If, after three drags I am good, then I stop. If I want more, then I have more. However, is it possible to smoke too much of it in too short a period of time. At least with an analog, when it gets down to the ...., I know I am done. How do I determine when I am done with this device?

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CaptJay

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One cart is not the same as 2 packs.
Use the PV as you wish, how you wish - they are an alternative to smoking not a cessastion device. SOmepeople jsut stop smoking because they prefer the PV but you do not HAVE to quit - you should make sure you're not taking in too much nic though if you smoke as well. If you start getting headaches, tummy upsets or feeling jittery (or heart races) then you are overdoing it. many people like to use a timer so they jhave a finite time for vaping.
 
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aewolfe

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I have been keeping an eye out for the jitters and such. So far so good. I usually only have half a smoke and then stop, because I don't want anymore. But I have found that certain triggers will can get me smoking two, three or more cigarettes like a chain smoker. I might get, in the worst case, a slight upset stomach. Since this device is different I just wanted to make sure I was not at risk of poisoning myself.
 
Aewolfe,

Everyone has to start somewhere. I looked on cigotine's website, but to honest I can't really tell what model the cigotine is; all I can tell is that they're selling cartomizers. At $80, it seems rather expensive. Whether or not it's a good product is really up to you; as you probably guessed, everyone has different preferences. Use what works for you!

I myself made the transition from analog to electronic with little overlap. Your mileage may very, and I'd have to agree with others: even if you have to occasionally smoke an analog, if you're cutting down on your use then you are making progress!

As for the cartridge questions, I've never had a cart that's felt like it's last as long as two packs; on heavy days, I may get 1 or 2 cigarette's worth of vapor. That is normal, and is a claim many use to draw people in. As to your other question, only YOU know when you've had enough; I find that I can comfortably smoke through two carts and have no ill effects, but again, ymmv.

I hope this helps. This forum is an awesome place to start. I'm still learning too!
 

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I haven't heard of this specific device but it looks like the 4081. If you are happy with the performance of the ecig for your needs, keep with it. Honestly its all about your vaping style that determines how long each cartridge will last. Yes you can intake much more nicotine quicker with ecigs so you have to watch how your body is reacting to the nicotine. Slight nic over dose symptoms are mild nausea and headaches, tingling in the extremities. if you feel these symptoms slow the usage or get a cart that has a smaller amount of nic in it. With the ecig it takes a learning curve, you have to trial and error to figure out how much will satisfy your cravings. It also takes longer for the ecig nic to hit the system so you will want to preemptively vape or antisipate the craving, take a few puffs and determine how much you should. Just keep an eye on the warnings that your body is giving you about the overdose. Unless you ingest straight ejuice you wont die, it will just leave you not feeling good for a little bit.
 

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Thanks for all of the replies! Yet another question: Ballpark, how long does it take for nic to get into the system vs an analog? Seconds? Minutes?
From what i remember there was a sticky thread about it somewhere but smoking nic is introduced almost instant, within seconds it will reach the brain. With vaping it could take some 5-10 mins. when i first started i vaped a little too much at first and all of a sudden it hit me and i was all tingly and jittery and kinda felt high.
 

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high... like the first analog in the am or after exercise. Yea that what kept me coming back for 27 years. Hell, I didn't even want to quit. Once I got the hang of vaping I just forgot to smoke an analog. I'd still have a pack if my kid didn't sneak the rest of my last pack. That's another good reason I'm done with analogs!

My solution was 36mg eliquid, now that I'm a few months free of analogs I just need to wean down.
 

CaptJay

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Yes with vaping your nic levels are more drip-fed so will build up more slowly - as opposed to smoking which will hit your brain in seconds.
Its quite hard to really OD with nic - its self-limiting in the same way that caffeine is; you will feel the effects before anything serious occurs (symptoms to watch out for listed above). Most sensible folks will stop at this point and give themselves a break, of course NOT getting to that point in the first place is most people's goal lol.
With a PV you will also have control of how MUCH nic you imbibe as Eliquids come in many strengths and even ZERO nicotine for people who have conquered their nic habit but still enjoy a sensation of smoking, or for those who just want to pace their nic intake by using zero as a 'filler' between cravings.
We have some links all about PV types and how-to's on our ECF Library subforum (navigate from The ECF Library - E-Cigarette Forum ) that you may find educational/informative :)
 
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