New to vamo, air flow trouble

[Reaperman]

So I'm new to vamo, and just got a stainless unit, but I'm experiencing air flow troubles with both carto tanks and kanger t2's. (everything I've tried)

Both are having tight draws, and I'm even experiencing air flow problems on the t2 with an ego adaptor that has previously worked great for me on my lambo 4.0.
I know the ego adapter shouldn't matter, since t2s have their own holes, but the adapter itself has a hole. With the tight draw I'm sucking in juice and flooding constantly.

The t2 is much quieter than before (it's a rattlesnake instead of a whoosh), and the top gets much warmer. Maybe I'm being hyper sensitive now. Settings are 'no2 at 5.5-6w.

Anybody else have/fix airflow troubles?

 

[Reaperman]

I think part of this is due to a solid center pin on the vamo, vs a forked pin in the lambo 4.0. I suspect that I was drawing some of my air up through the body of the unit itself. Essentially giving myself a 'third hole' rather than just the two on the sides of the t2. A similar thing was probably happening to my tanks.

I'm not sure I like this new experience. Is there any kind of adapter that I can use that promises more air flow? Maybe an ego to 510 that has holes out the sides of the bottom (below the ego threading).

Or maybe I should just accept that I'm more of a lambo kind of guy.

 

[crxess]

I think part of this is due to a solid center pin on the vamo, vs a forked pin in the lambo 4.0.

Not likely. all Ego batteries and most mods use a solid center pin. Lambo pin can (and has actually) cause problems for many.
Make sure you are not locking down your Tank or T2 to tightly and cutting off air flow.
Most air holes(not the vent holes around the outside) are above the 510 threads on a device - T2 has no 510 threads.
Air must pass over the units 510 connection and down into the device opening. Over tightening will effectively restrict/cut air supply.
Over tightening will also cause eventual damage to the Vamo - already several complaints and fixes posted.

 

[Reaperman]

thanks for the response. I had noticed that the adapter pin was pushing farther down last night, and that after I put the t2 on without the adapter I had to fish it up. I guess the issue is that where the lambo's body stopped the t2 on the adapter, this unit has enough clearance to let it get farther down.

I'm quickly realizing that I'm probably going to have to abandon my t2's on this, because I'm not seeing any way around the air flow issue. ...unless maybe there is a 510-ego adapter with a 'stop' ring, but I've never seen such a device. When I get back home I'm going to try out a widening ego cone and see if that gives it more to grab before its pin pushes too far down.

What's everybody using on their vamos? I suppose the old style vivi novas with the air holes out the side of the base (rather than the 510 post) is a slam dunk. I just never had air flow trouble, or pin trouble on my lambo--maybe I've just been lucky, but I haven'd delt with this kind of stuff since I was on midsize ego batteries.

 

[Relaxed5311]

You could try one of these too - Tank Airflow Controller

 

[rver]

I have nova's on both of my vamo's with no problems...I screw them down untill they don't wobble and then I immdediatly stop...works for me....hope it continue"s. LOL

 

[Reaperman]

I dropped a new 510 carto in my tank, and this one's lining up much better with the holes/notches. Also, thanks hugely for the air controller link. It won't help my t2's but it looks *really* handy, especially when the vent holes don't line up right (like with my last 510 carto).

I'm probably just going to give up on the t2's with vamo. They look silly on it anyway, and they just don't seem to work well here.
I think I'm fixed now. Thanks for the help as always.

 

[crxess]

I is a type type d cone on my Vamo for tanks. locks them in place without bottoming out. takes a bit of adjusting to get it set up.

 

[Reaperman]

Well it's day two and I have a tank on the vamo instead of the t2. It seemed to test out fine with a few puffs at home, but here at work my draw is different, and even it's flooding now. Jeez.

I've tried loostening it until it barely contacted, and it gets a little better. Pretty much it seems like the connector ring is too high on the vamo, or alternatively the air notches don't go low enough. Has anybody cut them lower? It might damage the threads beyond repair, but a small cutoff wheel or even a file might help these out.

Hopefully that airflow controller I bought from the link helps take care of this without cutting. I think that I'll probably be puffing on the old lambo until it arrives. All I have to do is find a way to survive the day. I'm buckled in, this one is going to be rough.

 

[Relaxed5311]

You can make it! your a survivor!

 

[Reaperman]

I survived until the madvapes air flow controller came. It seems to help a bit, in that the side air holes line up. It's designed to tighten airflow rather than loosen it, so I shouldn't be surprised that it has an air-tight bottom, so it's still tighter than I'd like.

My standard carto tanks are seemingly tolerable now, but a ce2 tank flooded instantly. I'm cleaning out my vivi nova now--that thing *never* floods.

Still, I'm coming to the conclusion that I'm the only person in the world who doesn't like the vamo. Grimmgreen put it in his newly updated favorite vapes vid. I just don't get it.

My problems seems to come from two places.
1) the ego skirt is too tall above the threads (or the notches aren't cut out low enough, whatever)
2) the pin is solid rather than allowing me to draw through the bottom too, through the device (which is an odd thing the lambo does that I've gotten used to)

I'm hoping I can re-train myself away from 2 being a problem. The airflow controller takes care of #1 quite nicely.

 

[nahoku]

Pretty much it seems like the connector ring is too high on the vamo, or alternatively the air notches don't go low enough. Has anybody cut them lower? It might damage the threads beyond repair, but a small cutoff wheel or even a file might help these out.

I experience the same thing with some of my carto's. The Vamo slot's appear well above the threads so cutting them a little deeper shouldn't affect the threads... as long as you don't go too deep and actually hit the threads.

 

[randomname79]

I've used stardusts, t3's, vivi nova's, iclear 30's and just plain carto's and I've never had that problem. I had one kanger t3 flood once but that's just par for the course. No draw issues either. Either you have a bad vamo or your taking way too hard a pull on it. I use a 510 to ego adapter on it almost all the time.

 

[evan le'garde]

i got a vamo v4 a few days ago. As soon as i got my airflow controller and put it on the vamo the centre post got pushed too far down and i got the "low load" error. I couldn't get it to work after that. The air flow controller's centre post is too long. Why it is as long as it is is beyond my comprehension. I spent about 2 hours trying to fix my new vamo. The problem was only exposed by the airflow controller. It would have happened sooner or later anyway with anything on it.

There is no insulation for the centre post on the vamo. I had to throw away the original grommit, wrap insulation tape round the centre post, and use another grommit, luckily i have a dozen or so i got from ebay. This one is much smaller in diameter and fits round the post so tight that it doesn't pop out everytime i put a tank on. So far my vamo is working fine now.

I like the idea of the airflow controller. The centre post could be 1 mil shorter though. There is no reason for it to slide up and down inside. It can't be good for any pv in the long term. So i won't be using it again. My Tesla has a spring loaded centre post and the airflow controller works great on that. But when i put it on i just don't like forcing down the centre post so far. There is too much play in the airflow controller's adjustable washer. It only needs to have a tiny bit of play but it can be adjusted by about 1 mil. It doesn't need that much play. It's just a bad design.