New to vaping box mods / what do I need to buy

[vapdivrr]

@Dan__ , one thing to consider besides whether you buy a disposable coil tank or one that you actually make coils for (rta) is if that tank is made for mouth to lung (mtl) or direct to lung (dtl). You mentioned a juul, which is a mtl draw, meaning you vape it like a cigarette draw. These mtl tanks have a more restrictive airflow or pull to them. (but perhaps not as restrictive as a juul) Then you have sub ohm dtl tanks, like the one you mentioned in the video above. These dtl tanks require a different draw type and are much different to a mtl draw. These dtl tanks are very airy, like sucking thru a pipe compared to a straw. You are probably seeing these cool tanks, but might not have an idea of what draw type is required. You might adapt and learn a dtl draw quickly, I just figure I would tell you the differences. If you wish to remain a mtl vapor, using a mtl draw, you need a mtl tank

 

[Dan__]

Think I just found the correct set of coils, I've got the option to choose between an 0.2ohm and 0.4ohm dual coils, what's the difference between these two?

 

[Opinionated]

Think I just found the correct set of coils, I've got the option to choose between an 0.2ohm and 0.4ohm dual coils, what's the difference between these two?

After vaping a Juul?

Like the difference between whether it's a Mack truck or an International that slams into your lungs without brakes at 100mph....

Good luck..

 

[Dan__]

After vaping a Juul?

Like the difference between whether it's a Mack truck or an International that slams into your lungs without brakes at 100mph....

Good luck..

Haha well, as long as it doesn't kill me don't see the harm in jumping head first

 

[Opinionated]

Haha well, as long as it doesn't kill me don't see the harm in jumping head first

It might kill you.

A .2 ohm coil isnt safe for just any device, or any battery.

What are you planning on putting it on? Do you know ohms law? Do you know the calculations for regulated mods? Do you know what brands are reputable?

Do you know a single thing about battery safety?

Your ignoring everyone in this thread and planning something that is at the least utterly idiotic, and at worst deadly.

But you wonnt listen. Heck you won't even have a conversation with those trying to help you.

 

[Dan__]

It might kill you.

A .2 ohm coil isnt safe for just any device, or any battery.

What are you planning on putting it on? Do you know ohms law? Do you know the calculations for regulated mods? Do you know what brands are reputable?

Do you know a single thing about battery safety?

Your ignoring everyone in this thread and planning something that is at the least utterly idiotic, and at worst deadly.

But you wonnt listen. Heck you won't even have a conversation with those trying to help you.

My apologies, I was focused on getting my head wrapped around the basic concept of drop in coils I wasn't trying post question after question

After taking into account all the replies I received, I'd switched up to a voopoo mini and a geekvapes tank with drop in coils. Is there anything wrong/I'm missing with this?

 

[Opinionated]

My apologies, I was focused on getting my head wrapped around the basic concept of drop in coils I wasn't trying post question after question

After taking into account all the replies I received, I'd switched up to a voopoo mini and a geekvapes tank with drop in coils. Is there anything wrong/I'm missing with this?

The Voopoo mini has an integrated battery, and while it says 117 watts that's doesn't mean you can or should vape that high.

The integrated batteries you dont want to push too hard, on most your preference is to stay under 50% of the manufacturers stated maximum watts.

So, you shouldn't try to vape more than 60 watts..

A .2 ohm coil is low. Since it's an integrated battery you don't know the amps or the voltage to, you may want to stay at or above the .4 ohms..

You can try the .2 ohm coil on it, but at any time if that mod starts getting hot then pull the atomizer off immediately. And don't sleep with the atomizer on the mod.

Same goes for the .4 ohm coil. If the mod starts getting hot at any point stop vaping immediately and remove the atomizer.

 

[Dan__]

The Voopoo mini has an integrated battery, and while it says 117 watts that's doesn't mean you can or should vape that high.

The integrated batteries you dont want to push too hard, on most your preference is to stay under 50% of the manufacturers stated maximum watts.

So, you shouldn't try to vape more than 60 watts..

A .2 ohm coil is low. Since it's an integrated battery you don't know the amps or the voltage to, you may want to stay at or above the .4 ohms..

You can try the .2 ohm coil on it, but at any time if that mod starts getting hot then pull the atomizer off immediately. And don't sleep with the atomizer on the mod.

Same goes for the .4 ohm coil. If the mod starts getting hot at any point stop vaping immediately and remove the atomizer.

Thanks, really appreciate the insight there.

 

[Hawise]

After taking into account all the replies I received, I'd switched up to a voopoo mini and a geekvapes tank with drop in coils. Is there anything wrong/I'm missing with this?

Which tank are you looking at? Most manufacturers make several tank models which may or may not share coils. Tanks usually come with one each of the coils made for them so you can try out the options - a good thing, since preferences are entirely personal.

I'm guessing you're looking at Geekvape's Alpha tank, since it has .2 and .4 ohm coils. From what I can see, that's a really heavy-hitting set of coils with recommendations of 75-95 watts, depending on the coil. @Opinionated's Mac truck analogy was apt. You might prefer to start off with something in the 30 - 40 watt range. That's still DL, so a big cloud producer, but not quite so extreme. I'm afraid I can't offer any specific recommendations as my taste is at the other end of the scale (MTL RTAs), but hopefully someone else will.

Whatever you choose, you'll need to prime and break in each coil whenever you replace one (woohoo - more terminology for you!)

Priming - Making sure the wick is soaked with ejuice before you fire the coil. If you look at the coil picture I posted earlier, you'll see holes in the coil with white cottony stuff showing. Put a few drops of ejuice on the cotton wherever you can see it. Then put the coil in the tank, fill the tank and wait for 10 minutes or so before using it.

Breaking in - I've heard it makes the coil last longer, although I can't confirm it. It's also how you pick the best setting to vape at. Coils will have a recommended wattage usually printed right on them. It's often exaggerated, so for that and other reasons, start at maybe half of the lowest recommended setting. Vape there for a few minutes then turn it up a bit and repeat. Gradually work your way up to where you want to be. If you don't know where you want to be, keep turning up the wattage until the vape stops getting better and starts getting worse. Then back down to where you liked it best.

 

[Diver9543]

Hello and welcome to ECF. You have received a load of great information and I know it can be a bit overwhelming, to say the least. You have been asking great questions, so take it slow and don't rush in and buy a tank for "big clouds".

 

[Baditude]

Whatever you choose, you'll need to prime and break in each coil whenever you replace one (woohoo - more terminology for you!)

Priming - Making sure the wick is soaked with ejuice before you fire the coil. If you look at the coil picture I posted earlier, you'll see holes in the coil with white cottony stuff showing. Put a few drops of ejuice on the cotton wherever you can see it. Then put the coil in the tank, fill the tank and wait for 10 minutes or so before using it.

Breaking in - I've heard it makes the coil last longer, although I can't confirm it. It's also how you pick the best setting to vape at. Coils will have a recommended wattage usually printed right on them. It's often exaggerated, so for that and other reasons, start at maybe half of the lowest recommended setting. Vape there for a few minutes then turn it up a bit and repeat. Gradually work your way up to where you want to be. If you don't know where you want to be, keep turning up the wattage until the vape stops getting better and starts getting worse. Then back down to where you liked it best.

I see, do you happen to know what kind of coils I'd be looking for to go with that tank?

To @Dan- , Hawise brings up important information. Watch this video on priming and breaking in coils. It's for a specific brand and model tank, but the principles are relevant no matter what model tank/coil you use.

 

[BrotherBob]

From the research I've done, to get a box kit you'd need to purchase a box mod and an RTA.

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[Damo67]

After taking into account all the replies I received, I'd switched up to a voopoo mini and a geekvapes tank with drop in coils. Is there anything wrong/I'm missing with this?

The voopoo mini if you haven't found out already,takes a couple hrs to charge which means no nicotine for 2hrs,can you go without for that long? Common mistake when a first timer buys an inbuilt batt mod.i did the same,learnt from it and brought another mod,also went with replacable batts in the mod as well.
If you have the uforce tank that can come with the voopoo mini then freemax fireluke mesh coils are compatible, much better performance than uforce coils.
Other good subohm tanks are vaperesso skrr tanks,8ml tank,big in size and the best coils for it are the gt mesh vapo coils.
If you have the geekvape alpha tank, it is also a good tank.it takes the meshmellow coils only though.they are a nice coil,slightly different to prime as the inside cotton is hard to get at but the side slots are nice and big,just prime them only and several times over,fill tank and let sit for 10mins.they are high wattage, ideally about 80 to 90 wt, getting a bit up there for the mini as the high watts will drain the batts quick.the vapo gt mesh coils for example work best at about the 60 watt mark depending on juice used. I hope this helps you out.

Edit: all vaporesso subohm tanks are compatible with all vaporesso coils, some need an adapter but thats easy to do.