The attys that come with to KGO starter kits 2.0 ohm don't hold much juice and have a bad taste when the juice is low. I tried a Smoke Tech, dual coil cart., Clear, XL 1.5 ohm. It is great for taste, vapor, and juice capacity, but it seems to pull the battery down faster than the 2.0 ohm attys. Will a 2.0 ohm dual coil cart reduice the battery drain and still have good flaver and vapor? I'm using 50 PG & 50 VG juice.
New to Vaping, Cartomizers for KGO
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Dual coils will drain the battery almost twice as fast a single coil. Also a 1.5ohm will drain a battery slightly faster than a 2.0ohm carto. Personally I think dual coils suck at lower voltages. I recommend trying the 1.7ohm Ressurector cartos. They are the only cartos I use on my Epower which is very similar to a kGo but uses non-proprietary batteries. A lot of Epower and kGo users use the Ressurwctors and they work really well on both devices. They are single coil and they hold about 2ml of juice so they last a pretty long time between refills. I use them in Smoktech 3.5ml tanks and they give an awesome vape and work very well in the tanks. The 3.5ml tank is a perfect size for an Epower or kGo.
Crystal Clear Vaping sells them for a good price and they have free shipping which is nice when you just want to get some cartos. If you get a 15-pack you get a free drip tip. They also sell the Smoktech tanks and pre-punched Ressurectors for the tanks if you ever want to use a tank
Crystal Clear Vaping sells them for a good price and they have free shipping which is nice when you just want to get some cartos. If you get a 15-pack you get a free drip tip. They also sell the Smoktech tanks and pre-punched Ressurectors for the tanks if you ever want to use a tank
You may want to try some Vision clearomizers / Stardust clearomizers ( basically the same thing ) I have been using the Visions Clearomizers from Nhaler.com They are rated at 2.4 - 2.6 ohms and they are VERY good. I did read somewhere that they are also available in low rez ( 2..0 ) and I want to try them. The Vision produces great flavor and vape and they fit like a glove on my Riva 1100 mah ( same as KGO I think ). The draw on them is nice on Riva too, not airy and not too tight. However I popped one on the Lavatube I just got yesterday and the draw is way too airy. Tried it on a VV ego too.... kinda the same thing. I should start a thread asking how to solve that.
Good info Rob ! Your post helped me as well. I think Im gonna have to try those resurrectors. I didnt do too well with my first 3.5ml tank and DCC 1.5 carto from Totally Wicked. It was single punched and just seamed to refuse to wick any juice. I tried to slot it with a dremel and that was a fail. Havent tried punching yet. These resurrectors slide into a 3.5 ml tank too eh ?? If so, I may have to give that tank another crack at getting back into my lineup.
Good info Rob ! Your post helped me as well. I think Im gonna have to try those resurrectors. I didnt do too well with my first 3.5ml tank and DCC 1.5 carto from Totally Wicked. It was single punched and just seamed to refuse to wick any juice. I tried to slot it with a dremel and that was a fail. Havent tried punching yet. These resurrectors slide into a 3.5 ml tank too eh ?? If so, I may have to give that tank another crack at getting back into my lineup.
If you have a KGO I can't recommend you get a stardust without a 510 cone adapter (from madvapes ($2.50)) because for some reason on a KGO the draw is so stiff it's almost unvapeable. If you get the cone adapter then it's supposed to make it all better. The stardust is pretty awesome though because it's one of the few disposable clearomizers that can actually be rebuilt. So the investment in an adapter may be well worth it, but just know what you are getting into so you don't do what I did and get PO'd when you can't really vape them well with a standard KGO. In short, get a 1.7ohm LR Smoktech carto or a stardust and an adapter. The Stardust is also known simply as the eGo Vision Clearomizer (make sure you get the Low Resistance kind for your KGO). On a side note I ordered 4 of them from Altsmoke and it took them 3 days to deliver it a mere 40 miles, having gone to the completely opposite side of the state hundreds of miles away before coming to my doorstep. When they arrived 3 out of 4 of them had drops of liquid in the tanks that were STILL IN THE PACKAGE! I opened one and it smelled like tobacco flavored ejuice. I tasted it to make sure and it was like a 555 blend and it definitely had nicotine in it! I am currently sending them a nastygram about why in the hell they sent me used Stardusts! I'll be posting the results on my blog but this BS!
Don't use dual coils on any PV that's less than 5v because the draw is so much it can damage your battery and cause a catastrophic failure (i.e. house fire or exploded face). Even if you are lucky to avoid a failure from what I understand it causes the battery guts to become solid (basically turns it to rock) and it will hold less and less charge until it either dies or catastrophically fails. That's what Battery University says and also GrimmGreen on YouTube says "you have no business putting a dual coil on a low voltage PV" and he's been vaping pretty much since the beginning. So there you have it. Lithium Ion batteries must hold a charge above 2.2v (IIRC) at all times or they will never charge again as a safeguard. There is a protector circuit in them that prevents overcharging and it dies below that level so the battery won't charge to prevent explosion. I may be talking outta my ... (hopefully I'm not) but what I read was enough to scare me straight and not use dual coils. I believe that battery that exploded that guy's face in Florida a little while back was due to him using dual coils on a low voltage device but I have no proof. Random catastrophic failures are exceedingly rare, like win the lottery rare.
The other carto I can recommend is the Boge 2.0 LR. They aren't the tastiest or the most fantastic vape in the world but they can be cleaned over and over and over and keep running for months. I've been using the same ones for 2 months now. They have almost no taste (after a couple days after cleaning, drying and refilling them) at this point but they're still going. If you want to vape on the cheap, it's an option, but you'll be paying in satisfaction what you save in money. Out of the 10 I started with only 2 have died, and by died I mean they taste burnt when you use them, but they still run.
Don't use dual coils on any PV that's less than 5v because the draw is so much it can damage your battery and cause a catastrophic failure (i.e. house fire or exploded face). Even if you are lucky to avoid a failure from what I understand it causes the battery guts to become solid (basically turns it to rock) and it will hold less and less charge until it either dies or catastrophically fails. That's what Battery University says and also GrimmGreen on YouTube says "you have no business putting a dual coil on a low voltage PV" and he's been vaping pretty much since the beginning. So there you have it. Lithium Ion batteries must hold a charge above 2.2v (IIRC) at all times or they will never charge again as a safeguard. There is a protector circuit in them that prevents overcharging and it dies below that level so the battery won't charge to prevent explosion. I may be talking outta my ... (hopefully I'm not) but what I read was enough to scare me straight and not use dual coils. I believe that battery that exploded that guy's face in Florida a little while back was due to him using dual coils on a low voltage device but I have no proof. Random catastrophic failures are exceedingly rare, like win the lottery rare.
The other carto I can recommend is the Boge 2.0 LR. They aren't the tastiest or the most fantastic vape in the world but they can be cleaned over and over and over and keep running for months. I've been using the same ones for 2 months now. They have almost no taste (after a couple days after cleaning, drying and refilling them) at this point but they're still going. If you want to vape on the cheap, it's an option, but you'll be paying in satisfaction what you save in money. Out of the 10 I started with only 2 have died, and by died I mean they taste burnt when you use them, but they still run.
No, no, no.... You shouldn't use dual coils on a low voltage PV, but it's not because it can cause battery failure. It's because what you are really doing is heating up two separate coils and splitting your total wattage between 2 coils. For example, a 1.5ohm DC has two 3 ohm coils inside. If you use a 3.7V battery, instead of vaping with 9.12 Watts, like you would with a single coild carto, you're splitting that 9.12 Watts in half and distributing it between the two coils. So what you have is two coils, each using 4.6 watts and 4.6 watts is a lousy vape. OTOH, if you have a 5V battery, you're going to get two coils using 8.3 watts each and that's some good vaping.
What you shouldn't do is use a 1.5ohm carto on a low mah battery. That's not the same thing as a low voltage battery. A LR carto should only be used with a battery over about 450mah, so that means don't use it on a little mini-cig type PV. At 3.7V, a 1.5ohm carto draws almost 2.5 amps. If your battery is 250mah, that's a draw of 10C, and that's the upper range of a "high draw" battery like the AW lithiums, which mini-cig batteries are not. Most of those little batteries are rated for only about 5C or less, so you will trash them if you try to draw that much current.
The guy in Florida had his PV explode not because he was using dual coils but because he was stacking unprotected batteries that were probably mismatched and it caused one of the batteries to over-discharge. Personally, I use large battery mods and never let my batteries fall much below 3.8V, but protector circuits generally cut in at 2.3V, which is too far drained for my tastes.
What you shouldn't do is use a 1.5ohm carto on a low mah battery. That's not the same thing as a low voltage battery. A LR carto should only be used with a battery over about 450mah, so that means don't use it on a little mini-cig type PV. At 3.7V, a 1.5ohm carto draws almost 2.5 amps. If your battery is 250mah, that's a draw of 10C, and that's the upper range of a "high draw" battery like the AW lithiums, which mini-cig batteries are not. Most of those little batteries are rated for only about 5C or less, so you will trash them if you try to draw that much current.
The guy in Florida had his PV explode not because he was using dual coils but because he was stacking unprotected batteries that were probably mismatched and it caused one of the batteries to over-discharge. Personally, I use large battery mods and never let my batteries fall much below 3.8V, but protector circuits generally cut in at 2.3V, which is too far drained for my tastes.
I'll ditto the above thumbs up on the Smoktech "Resurrector" 1.7 Ohm XL Single Coil & the Boge 2.0 Ohm cartos. Both are excellent choices, and if you keep the filler material wet both will usually last very well. I can't comment on tanks or Visions / Stardusts because I've never used 'em (yet). Sailorman's advice on dual coil cartos & batteries is spot-on too, and important stuff to know.
Generally an atomizer doesn't hold much juice; if you're using a cartridge it'll hold some, but still less than a cartomizer. For testing flavors a good dripping atomizer & drip tip are the best way to go, so you don't fill a carto with a flavor & then discover you don't like it. Atomizers are fairly easy to flush out, & not much juice is wasted. If the atty gets too dry & you notice a bad or burnt taste it's probably toasting the wick, & you need to add a few drops of liquid. Once the wick gets burnt the atty is probably beyond recovery.
Hope this helps... Happy Vaping!
Generally an atomizer doesn't hold much juice; if you're using a cartridge it'll hold some, but still less than a cartomizer. For testing flavors a good dripping atomizer & drip tip are the best way to go, so you don't fill a carto with a flavor & then discover you don't like it. Atomizers are fairly easy to flush out, & not much juice is wasted. If the atty gets too dry & you notice a bad or burnt taste it's probably toasting the wick, & you need to add a few drops of liquid. Once the wick gets burnt the atty is probably beyond recovery.
Hope this helps... Happy Vaping!
Thanks for the advice, I just ordered some 1.7 ohm Resurrector carts.
I'll ditto the above thumbs up on the Smoktech "Resurrector" 1.7 Ohm XL Single Coil & the Boge 2.0 Ohm cartos. Both are excellent choices, and if you keep the filler material wet both will usually last very well. I can't comment on tanks or Visions / Stardusts because I've never used 'em (yet). Sailorman's advice on dual coil cartos & batteries is spot-on too, and important stuff to know.
Generally an atomizer doesn't hold much juice; if you're using a cartridge it'll hold some, but still less than a cartomizer. For testing flavors a good dripping atomizer & drip tip are the best way to go, so you don't fill a carto with a flavor & then discover you don't like it. Atomizers are fairly easy to flush out, & not much juice is wasted. If the atty gets too dry & you notice a bad or burnt taste it's probably toasting the wick, & you need to add a few drops of liquid. Once the wick gets burnt the atty is probably beyond recovery.
Hope this helps... Happy Vaping!
I've been using a KGO for about six weeks now and these are what I've tried so far - both excellent, tons of TH, vapor and taste. I think you'll really like the Resurrectors! My only mistake was not getting a syringe to fill them and it takes a while to get the filler stuff saturated by dripping (I got a few clear ones and it's easier to tell how soaked the filler material is getting with those) but it is do-able.
Go to Youtube and search for "condom method". No syringe, no dripping and no (real) condoms. It's quick, easy and the only method I ever use.
So why do the kGo kits on sweet-vapes.com come with emdcc's if you aren't supposed to use dual coils? It seems odd to sell them with if you shouldn't use them.
Good question. My guess is marketing hype and that's what came to Sweet Vapes from their supplier. DCs seem to be the FOTD. When the battery is hot off charge, they might not be too bad, but after that..... Unless they're extremely low resistance, like 1.25., but even then they'd be less than great. They don't mention what the resistance is.
They say 1.5 ohm when you order them seperate. I was tempted to order the kit but I've decided to just order one battery and my own charger because I don't want the stuff that comes with it. I already have 2 700 mah kGo like batteries so I'll just get 1.7 ohm cartos and I can use them for both. Now off to search for drip tips 
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