New to vaping. Just got a nemesis clone with ibtank as a gift

[lejund]

Hello.
I recently got a nemesis clone as a gift with Ibtanked tank.
I was told only thing I need now are cartomizer, battery, charger and juice.
For my given set up... what cartomizer and battery should I get. I want to keep the vaporizer stealth as possible.
I was looking at smok 2.0ohm single coil 2 hole standard from ibtanked website... and efest imr 18350 3.7v 800mah battery
Is this a decent/safe set up?
Also how often should I change out the cartomizer?

I will appreciate any help I could get.
Thank you very much

 

[Corpse]

Can't help with the cartomizers, but if you're going to use 18350 batteries, my advice is you get at least a pair, cause they won't last long with each charge.
As for brands, for 18350's I would go with AW (beware of fakes), and for 18650's the Panasonic CGR18650CH is a good choice.

 

[CreepyLady]

Hi and welcome to ECF Someone set you up with an awesome gift! I use Boge cartos I like them more than smok, smok is perfectly fine though. I do find that the laser slotted cartos work better than prepunched, but either does work fine. Usually Kidneypuncher.com has the laser slotted ones in stock. You will want to order a good handful of cartos, you will probably change it at least once a week - could be a little more or less depending on your liquid and your use. You will want to change out the carto once you notice you are losing flavor and vapor production.

You can go efest on the batteries but for the small difference in money you will get noticeably better performance from an AW IMR 18350. I have both - in a VV/VW device you will just see a better battery life from AW, but in a mechanical you will notice a larger difference since everything is reliant upon your battery voltage.

What chargers are you looking at? Make sure to get a good one - it makes all of the difference with performance and safety. Check out Pila, Xtar and Nitecore. Make sure to avoid any charger or battery with "fire" in the name (trustfire,surefire, etc).

Good luck and Happy Vaping!

 

[Kryyptyk]

I'd go with a Nitecore intellicharger, maybe an i2. Definitely get yourself some 30 amp rated 18650s, such as the purple efests or the green 30 amp sonys.
As for the cartos, you can get pretty much any resistance you desire as long as you have a safe battery. So play around with the different resistance cartos and find your sweet spot.
The Nemmy is one of the best mechs, so you got one heck of a gift!

 

[Baditude]

You don't need a 30 amp battery if you aren't doing sub-ohm coils in an RBA. Those are only in 18650 size batteries, anyway. You said you want to stay short on the mod size, so you'll want the red AW IMR 18350 batteries.

AW 18350 IMR battery

You can use any brand pre-punched cartomizer (Boge, Ikenvape, or Smoktech) in the IBTanked. Just be sure to get the right length carto for your tank. IBTanked come in three lengths: halfling, standard (35mm), and XL (45mm). I'd suggest using a low resistance carto for your mechanical mod.



IBTanked and Big Daddy Vapor both sell a tank tool which is indispensable when using a cartotank. Both work the same way, as shown in this video:




Baditude's Cartotank Setup Guide

Change out the carto when the draw becomes stiff, the flavor becomes muted, or you get a burnt taste - about every 1 - 2 weeks. The most important step is "priming" the carto before you put it into the tank; most novices don't put enough juice into the carto. About 1 ml for a standard-size carto; about 1.6 ml for an XL carto. The wick should look like a wet slushy drink. You don't have to add more juice to the carto when you refill the tank, but it doesn't hurt to do so as long as you don't flood it.

 

[Completely Average]

I'm going to go a little against the grain here.

Since you're using a cartotank, you would probably be a LOT happier if you installed a Kick as well. That will let you set a specific wattage to vape at and then the Kick will maintain that output all day long, rather than have your vape get weaker and weaker as the day goes on.

If you're going to use a Kick then you may as well move to an 18500 battery and run the Nemesis in the 18650 mode. It's a bit longer that way, but you'll get a more satisfying result, and you can go longer between battery changes and recharges with the 18500 battery.

It will be longer than 18350 mode, but not a whole lot.

 

[lejund]

Thanks for all the advice.
Can you please tell me what a kick is? what the benefits are?
and also I was looking at 18500 batteries and AW comes in 18490. Can I use 18490 with my nemesis? It's only 1mm difference.
Thank you.

 

[Completely Average]

Thanks for all the advice.
Can you please tell me what a kick is? what the benefits are?
and also I was looking at 18500 batteries and AW comes in 18490. Can I use 18490 with my nemesis? It's only 1mm difference.
Thank you.

Sure!

That is a Kick module. They insert into the mod between the battery and the top electrical pin with the white dial facing AWAY from the battery. The white dial allows you to set a wattage setting between 5 and 10 watts (12 watts if it's a Smoktech clone). It will then maintain that wattage output. That's very important when using an over-the-counter topper like a Cartotank because sometimes the standard 3.7 volts just isn't enough power for the coils, and it prevents the power dropping (weaker vape) as the charge is depleted.

The Kick also acts as a safety device which is important if you get a bad coil or a short. It will protect your battery, and you.

The Kick will not fire if the coil resistance is less than 1.0 ohm.
The Kick will not fire if the amp draw exceeds 5A. (6A for the Smoktech Clone)
The Kick will not fire if the battery voltage drops below 3.2V.

Kick modules can be found in the $5-$20 range. If you're buying from a B&M expect to spend in the $15+ range, if you're ordering online from someone like Fasttech you can get them cheaper, but you may have to wait weeks to get it.


And yes, you can use 18490 batteries as well, but you may have to get longer contact pins from someone like FatDaddy Vapes to get the fit right. The new pins are only $8 though, not a huge investment.

 

[joecil]

For me I use only the purple line of batteries from EFest with my Nemesis clones (have 3 of them) and also use the Kick2 not the Smoketech versions. I've also used the Sony US18650VTC5 2600 mAh High Discharge Flat Top, SONY US18650VTC4 IMR 2100 mAh and MNKE 18650 IMR 1500 mAh Batteries in 18650 mode all with the kick and without. I don't do a lot of sub ohm but on occasion do such as trying a new liquid with a dripper.

As for the nemesis itself all of mine are HCigar in brass, copper and stainless as well as the colored aluminum tubes sold by Fasttech. I mix and match as per my daily whim. As for the switch and top pins I use either the ones that came with it or the FatDaddyvape pins. I've used several of the magnets and like the ones from FastTech using 3 of them over the others due to the fact I have bad arthritis in my hands, hence button pressure can be a problem the longer and more I vape. The rest comes down to keeping the contacts clean and inside of the tubes clean. Also keeping in mind the kick ring/beauty ring is for a fuse or with the extended top pin from FatDaddy's. I do use it with a kick but also with one ring for the 18500 ring and 18350 or 18650. For the 18500 simply use the 18650 setup. Hope that helps cut some of the problems you might run into as you use it. I also love the Kayfuns/Russians with it as well as most tanks. As for drippers the Omaga or IGO-W work well for me.

As for the Evolve Kick 2 it will do:
Output Power - 5 Watts to 15 Watts
Output Voltage - 2 Volts to 6.3 Volts
Output Current - 6 Amps
Atty Resistance - 0.5 Ohms to 3.3 Ohms

 

[canucknnv]

You'll know when the cartomizer gets dry or is starting to fail. keep it primed with juice and you'll know. As far as the other stuff goes the Nemesis is good but mechanical. Always have more batteries than you need and change them out frequently as it can be potentially dangerous to run a battery out. The set up is fine but you'll probably change it after awhile. gotta start somewhere. Just stay diligent with the batteries as mech mods aren't as forgiving as a vv/vw

 

[Completely Average]

For me I use only the purple line of batteries from EFest with my Nemesis clones (have 3 of them) and also use the Kick2 not the Smoketech versions.

As for the Evolve Kick 2 it will do:
Output Power - 5 Watts to 15 Watts
Output Voltage - 2 Volts to 6.3 Volts
Output Current - 6 Amps
Atty Resistance - 0.5 Ohms to 3.3 Ohms

Yeah, but he's using a cartotank, not subohming with an RDA, so he really doesn't need a $45 Kick2 when a $15 Kick or Kick clone will provide him with more than enough power to do the job.

What he is doing is very similar to the setup that my wife uses. She's got a 69 clone with a Kick and an iClear 30s. That's all she uses. For her, the Panasonic IMR 2900mAh batteris are the best option because she never comes close to the 5A limit and the 2900mAh batteries far outlast the lower mAh but higher amp ones.

I use a Kick2, sometimes, but I would never recommend one who hasn't stated an interest in getting into RDAs because of the cost. For cartos and clearos a standard Kick will be all they will ever need, I don't recommend something that costs $30 more if they aren't going to use it.

 

[joecil]

Yeah, but he's using a cartotank, not subohming with an RDA, so he really doesn't need a $45 Kick2 when a $15 Kick or Kick clone will provide him with more than enough power to do the job.

What he is doing is very similar to the setup that my wife uses. She's got a 69 clone with a Kick and an iClear 30s. That's all she uses. For her, the Panasonic IMR 2900mAh batteris are the best option because she never comes close to the 5A limit and the 2900mAh batteries far outlast the lower mAh but higher amp ones.

I use a Kick2, sometimes, but I would never recommend one who hasn't stated an interest in getting into RDAs because of the cost. For cartos and clearos a standard Kick will be all they will ever need, I don't recommend something that costs $30 more if they aren't going to use it.

Just covering where he will probably go since I am fairly new to this also but have gone there myself. I thought I also covered some of the simple things besides just the kicks also.

 

[lejund]

You'll know when the cartomizer gets dry or is starting to fail. keep it primed with juice and you'll know. As far as the other stuff goes the Nemesis is good but mechanical. Always have more batteries than you need and change them out frequently as it can be potentially dangerous to run a battery out. The set up is fine but you'll probably change it after awhile. gotta start somewhere. Just stay diligent with the batteries as mech mods aren't as forgiving as a vv/vw

how is it potentially dangerous? What are some safety concerns?

 

[^Top-Shelf^]

Think all bases have been covered but I would suggest getting a digital multimeter to check your battery levels "if not getting a kick" or a charger that tells you the voltage level of them. You don't want to over discharge your batteries it could ruin them. I never let mine go below 2.8

Congrats on receiving the nemesis

Nemesis with AW 18350 and Kayfun Lite Plus w/ nano kit

 

[joecil]

Think all bases have been covered but I would suggest getting a digital multimeter to check your battery levels "if not getting a kick" or a charger that tells you the voltage level of them. You don't want to over discharge your batteries it could ruin them. I never let mine go below 2.8

Congrats on receiving the nemesis
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Nemesis with AW 18350 and Kayfun Lite Plus w/ nano kit

The Evolve Kick2 stops working at about 3 volts and lets you know by how it fires, kind of a quick choppy sound. I doesn't really fire though. Mine actually stops at 2.9 to 3 volts.

One note though is the inline volt meters won't work with the Kick2 installed since it uses a reverse polarity type signal. They work great without the kick2 however.

 

[lejund]

Thanks again for all the replies.

what are the safety concerns if I let the voltage drop too low?
What is the recommended voltage for 2ohm carto?

 

[emus]

Watch Rip Trippers videos on YT.

 

[Baditude]

how is it potentially dangerous? What are some safety concerns?

Over-discharging a battery can be potentially dangerous. This can be as simple as the battery just dying, or as dramatic to cause the battery to go into thermal runaway. Below is an AW IMR battery which over-discharged in a backpack and went into thermal runaway. This is a rare event, but be aware that it can happen. Having a battery voltmeter or digital multimeter to monitor your batteries is a great idea. Voltage should never be over 4.2 volts coming off the charger, and never be less than 3.4 volts in the mod.



Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?

Mechanical Mod Safety Guide

What is the recommended voltage for 2ohm carto?

Your mechanical mod will have 4.2 volts with a fresh-charged battery, and will gradually drop in voltage to around 3.5 volts when your vapor should be noticeably decreased. Low resistance cartos will give a warmer vape, standard resistance cartos will provide a cooler vape. This is a personal preference based upon experience.

 

[lejund]

thank you for that information.
If the battery straight out of the charger is 4.2 volts and decrease with use, wouldn't 2ohm carto considered not safe according to that chart? (atleast at this voltage) Does that mean that I am susceptible to inhaling solder fume? Woudn't getting higher resistance carto like 3ohm considered safer?

 

[lejund]

can anyone help me with my last question?