New to vaping need advice.

[Dublin203]

Hello, so I got into vaping a few weeks ago.
Right now I have a kooper plus 200 mod
Tfv4 tank (which I have had a lot of issues with)
And a velocity rda.
I've made coils with 22g and 26g, so far my preferred build is dual vertical coils 11 wraps of 26.
My biggest issues are what other things I should get, how to solve my trouble with the tfv4, and how to build a better coil setup on my rda. I'm trying to get it so the tfv4 puts out more flavor, I don't really care about vapor thickness or blowing clouds with that, it's mostly for at work, when I'm driving, or at home and don't feel like dripping every 2 minutes. So I'm not sure what atomizer to have in that, or if I'm just using wrong juice.
I'd also like to make the velocity so that that one "chucks the vapor".
So what do I do? Thank you

 

[Sir2fyablyNutz]

Hi @Dublin203 and welcome to the forum. I have the same gear except for the dripper. I have had issues with the rba (single and single clapton) for the TFV4 not being what I want, so currently am using the factory coils. I prefer the CLP2 dual. I have a dual coil rba ordered but haven't tried it yet.

Good luck in your journey.

 

[suprtrkr]

Hi and welcome. The TFV4 is supposed to offer good flavor, but it really is a high power cloud machine at its heart. You might want to look at something a bit lower powered for a flavor tank. Since you can build coils, I think you'll find a Lemo2 a useful tool. I coiled mine in the .5 range and they were moderately cloudy and very flavorful. On your velocity... mine is a bottom feeder, and I use it on a Reo, which is a one battery mechanical mod, so there's a limit as to how low I can coil it. However, I have a Mutation V4 I use on my Koopor Plus, and it's coiled with Alien wire (a piece of kanthal ribbon wire, Clapton wrapped with kanthal round wire). I think if you tried that, in the .2~.3Ω range, you'll find it pretty steamy Use a big mandrel, like 3mm or so. It wants a lot of wick

 

[Dublin203]

Hi and welcome. The TFV4 is supposed to offer good flavor, but it really is a high power cloud machine at its heart. You might want to look at something a bit lower powered for a flavor tank. Since you can build coils, I think you'll find a Lemo2 a useful tool. I coiled mine in the .5 range and they were moderately cloudy and very flavorful. On your velocity... mine is a bottom feeder, and I use it on a Reo, which is a one battery mechanical mod, so there's a limit as to how low I can coil it. However, I have a Mutation V4 I use on my Koopor Plus, and it's coiled with Alien wire (a piece of kanthal ribbon wire, Clapton wrapped with kanthal round wire). I think if you tried that, in the .2~.3Ω range, you'll find it pretty steamy Use a big mandrel, like 3mm or so. It wants a lot of wick

My biggest issue with my tfv4 right now is it leaks like crazy. I have a band around the glass part that slows down the leaking but it's still doing it a bit (about 2ml every day with the band on, or the whole 5ml tank if the bands off) and I've got no clue how to set up airflow on the tfv4. There's an airflow thing at the bottom of the tank and a separate on the mouthpiece that came with it. My rda with the 2 coils of 11 wraps is at .26, I have no clue if that's good or not. I'll definitely look into ordering that wire. What kind of cotton should I use? And what are the best fluids to order online? I've gone into 6 differnt vape shops but each one has all differnt flavors and brands

 

[suprtrkr]

My biggest issue with my tfv4 right now is it leaks like crazy. I have a band around the glass part that slows down the leaking but it's still doing it a bit (about 2ml every day with the band on, or the whole 5ml tank if the bands off) and I've got no clue how to set up airflow on the tfv4. There's an airflow thing at the bottom of the tank and a separate on the mouthpiece that came with it. My rda with the 2 coils of 11 wraps is at .26, I have no clue if that's good or not. I'll definitely look into ordering that wire. What kind of cotton should I use? And what are the best fluids to order online? I've gone into 6 differnt vape shops but each one has all differnt flavors and brands

I don't have a TFV, but I'll bump for an answer from somebody who does. They're not supposed to leak like that. I also don't know how to set up the air on one. A .26Ω coil is pretty low, you should be able to get all kinds of cloud from your Velocity with that. If you aren't, try cranking the watts up and opening the air flow.

The thing about the wire is surface area. What makes vapor is power radiating from the coil surface in contact with wet wick. Thus, the more surface area in contact with wick, and the more power it is putting out, the more vapor it makes. The difference between the round wire you are using and the Aliens or Claptons or twists or what have you is a greater ratio of surface area to volume as compared to slick wire coils. That is, given two coils of the same resistance, and holding power even, the coil with the greater surface area will make more vapor.

As to wick, I use rayon. I think it wicks better, tastes better, lasts longer and is more resistant to heat than cotton. YMMV, that's an opinion and others disagree. I notice a taste to rayon on a brand new wick, but it goes away after the first few dozen hits, and I thereafter think it tastes better than any cotton I have tried... and I have tried them all, lol. Also, where cotton swells when wet, rayon shrinks. Therefore, it is less susceptible to "choking' in the coil, where it gets so jammed tight the juice can't transport. If you are planning on running a lot of watts to make big cloud, I suggest winding your coils on a big mandrel, 3mm or even bigger, to get some more wick in the coil and thereby have more juice close to the coil to avoid dry hits.

Finally, if you really want cloud and don't mind the air wide open, it is possible to build a velocity with quad coils in "double barrel" style; that is, two horizontal coils, one above the other, on each side of the posts. That, however, is going to take a lot of watts to heat up fast enough so there's not an annoyingly long ramp time after you push the button before you get usable vapor. It will also be boiling hot, far too hot for me, but some folks like it, or at least can tolerate it.

I don't know about buying juices, I DIY my own.

 

[jeff-in-ks]

I'm sort of new to vaping, have a istick 40w and use subtank minis, which I like so far. I haven't built any coils other than that. What would be a good 'next step up' tank to try?

 

[Clydde26]

Am I to assume you are only getting leaks when using the RBA on your TFV4. If so then that is 100% a wicking issue. IF it is not wicked aboslutely perfect it will leak... as far as flavor... I have yet to find a tried and true build on the TFV4 rba that is amazing with flavor. 26-28ga twisted comes close followed by a 26/32 clapton. As suprtrkr said its at heart a vapor monster. The stock coils are where you get the flavor vapes. There just isnt enough room to build what you need to with the screws or the post holes on the RBA to achieve the same type of Wire surface area that you can get with the stock coils. Now one of my go to builds is a single vertical coil...4mm ID. But it has to be wicked just right as well. I can post pictures if you request of how I build it and what it looks like wicked up. The main thing about the leaking is that if there isnt enough cotton going through the juice channels then you get leaking....but conversely if you utilize too much cotton through the juice wells you either are looking at a dry/burnt hit city...or risk the cotton tails flailing out towards the air holes and juice still leaking out. Hence why I said wicking is imperative with this thing. As far as how to utilize the Air Controls on this... The top air flow is solely for the mouth piece...it allows you to take in more air cooling the drip tip more...the problem is that it also mutes the flavor. I almost always have this closed all the way off... The only tank that has so far done this right is the Herakles Plus...the Air is actually re-circulated back through the atty as you take a draw...but i digress.... the bottom AFC is where you adjust the air to your coil. If you are building lower ohms then you want a little more air than usual. This also means more vapor. If you want to attempt to get more flavor out of a lower ohm coil then close it down some...but keep in mind that without that happy median of cooling to the coil your risking a dry and burnt hit so experimentation is key. With this tank being a cloud machine your going to want to have higher VG juices.... they wick better with the RBA. Less likelihood of leaking and seepage. As far as flavors and nic...thats on you as you said go to all those different shops and sample their flavors pick out a couple 15ml bottles and see if you like it....only way you will find your ALL Day Vape flavor that you will keep coming back to is experimenting.

 

[dcfluegel]

howdy - and welcome!

personally, i'd second the endorsement on the tfv4 clp2 (dual clapton) coil - lower power consumption than the quads and triples, really nice vape, doesn't guzzle as much juice

for the velocity, that is a broad topic - currently running a pair of fused claptons in mine and pretty fond of it

you're in the right place

 

[BrotherBob]

Welcome and glad you joined.
Might like to read: 2015: The Art of the Drip - A Dripping Primer - Spinfuel eMagazine
Tanks can get tricky.

 

[Dublin203]

I'm sort of new to vaping, have a istick 40w and use subtank minis, which I like so far. I haven't built any coils other than that. What would be a good 'next step up' tank to try?

I had an I stick 30 watt, and I had a lot of trouble with compatability with most rda and tanks I tried to use with it, they just would not fire or straight up wouldn't screw on. I know I'm really new but I would think you should invest in a new mod

 

[Dublin203]

Am I to assume you are only getting leaks when using the RBA on your TFV4. If so then that is 100% a wicking issue. IF it is not wicked aboslutely perfect it will leak... as far as flavor... I have yet to find a tried and true build on the TFV4 rba that is amazing with flavor. 26-28ga twisted comes close followed by a 26/32 clapton. As suprtrkr said its at heart a vapor monster. The stock coils are where you get the flavor vapes. There just isnt enough room to build what you need to with the screws or the post holes on the RBA to achieve the same type of Wire surface area that you can get with the stock coils. Now one of my go to builds is a single vertical coil...4mm ID. But it has to be wicked just right as well. I can post pictures if you request of how I build it and what it looks like wicked up. The main thing about the leaking is that if there isnt enough cotton going through the juice channels then you get leaking....but conversely if you utilize too much cotton through the juice wells you either are looking at a dry/burnt hit city...or risk the cotton tails flailing out towards the air holes and juice still leaking out. Hence why I said wicking is imperative with this thing. As far as how to utilize the Air Controls on this... The top air flow is solely for the mouth piece...it allows you to take in more air cooling the drip tip more...the problem is that it also mutes the flavor. I almost always have this closed all the way off... The only tank that has so far done this right is the Herakles Plus...the Air is actually re-circulated back through the atty as you take a draw...but i digress.... the bottom AFC is where you adjust the air to your coil. If you are building lower ohms then you want a little more air than usual. This also means more vapor. If you want to attempt to get more flavor out of a lower ohm coil then close it down some...but keep in mind that without that happy median of cooling to the coil your risking a dry and burnt hit so experimentation is key. With this tank being a cloud machine your going to want to have higher VG juices.... they wick better with the RBA. Less likelihood of leaking and seepage. As far as flavors and nic...thats on you as you said go to all those different shops and sample their flavors pick out a couple 15ml bottles and see if you like it....only way you will find your ALL Day Vape flavor that you will keep coming back to is experimenting.

I haven't even tried the rba for the tfv4, but the 3 and 4 coil leak, I brought it to the vape shop I bought it at and all thy said was use the bands. I've made sure every thing is properly tightened down but doesn't fully solve the problem. A girl that was in the vape shop getting juice said she had the same problem and said the bands would fix it.