Hi. I'm a pack a day smoker and want to switch to vaping. I bought an ego one starter kit with a 2200 mAh battery and I'm using a 1 ohm coil. The e liquid I bought is 18 mg nicotine with both PG and VG, but I'm not sure of the mix ratio. The problem I'm having is that it's painful to inhale causing coughing fits, a lot like taking way too big of a hit off a joint or pipe. Hardly any vapor comes out when I exhale. I'm trying to mouth to lung hits to simulate the smoking habit, but I've tried direct to lung also and it's the same. The flavor is good so I don't think it's faulty hardware. Does anyone have any advice that could help solve my problem? I'd appreciate it!
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Nicotine level is too high.
I was a 2 PAD smoker and within a week of vaping I cut myself back from 12mg to 6mg. And that was on a 1.8 ohm coil.
I was a 2 PAD smoker and within a week of vaping I cut myself back from 12mg to 6mg. And that was on a 1.8 ohm coil.
Chances are it's a bit of both dry hits plus high nicotine strength.
Don't attempt direct to lung when you are new to vaping; just stick to mouth to lung till you learn to detect dry hits before they hit.
Prime your coil; that means make sure it gets wet before taking a vape;
also, try a lower nicotine strength, like 6mg or even 3mg.
When starting out, it's easier to start with low nicotine strength liquid so you know if it's harsh, it's not because of the nicotine.
Unfortunately, it has been customary to suggest 18mg to "new vapers" coming off pack a day or more than pack a day smoking habits.
With the plethora of new hardware, and coils, it is now going to be more important to ask "what hardware are you using?" before making recommendations to new vapers.
The older equipment (which many of us are still using) didn't have this problem. You got a nice gentle vape and could use long pulls/draws. And even a bit on the "cooler" side.
One reason I haven't been able to upgrade to anything new, even after 3.5 years I simply cannot take all the hot vapor, in large quantities, going down my throat. Hate it.
Nicotine content won't fix that for me.....I can't even have that much "stuff" going down my throat and into my lungs at 0% nicotine!
Thanks for the info. I don't think it's a dry hit. The guy at the vape store primed the wick for me and showed me how to do everything. I ordered some 12mg liquid because from what I read that's a good match for how much and what type of cigarettes I smoke
Probably too much nic. And maybe you want a juice ratio more biased toward VG. Welcome to the board.
Thanks. I'm going to try a tobacco flavor because I enjoy the flavor of a cigarette. I'm switching more or less for the health benefits. I'm a new dad and even though I smoke outside, the smoke sticks to my clothes and it's not good for the baby. I ordered a 12 mg sample pack from black note.com as I heard they are the best for tobacco flavored e liquids, and no chemicals or artificial flavors added. So it'll probably be healthier for me also.
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nicotine strenght and wattage go together, so if you vape at high wattage you use low strenght and vice versa
I don't think it's the nic content at all , the wattage is too high or something is wrong with the coil or wicking , some coils are just bad and what your experiencing is the result .
I vaped 24 and 36 mg nic on the same type of hardware your using , no issues at all .
I vaped 24 and 36 mg nic on the same type of hardware your using , no issues at all .
I smoked a pack & a half a day. When I started vaping I was using 16mg & it wasn't all that enjoyable. I'm using a VW box mod with a .5 coil. Now that I use 6mg nicotine & vape at 35 watts is So much better. You may just have to find a power/juice/coil combo that works best for YOU.
The Ego One is a fairly powerful device. I have 2. I can vape 18 mg but it's quite a potent hit. I agree that you should try lower nic, 12 or 9, and higher VG percentage. 60/40 VG/PG would probably be smoother.
If your vaping low ohm it would be , harsh and potent are two entirely different things , harsh is like unvapable and potent is just something that will put you on the floor because too much nic has been delivered . Potent was never a harsh vape to me though , just got to vape lower wattage and higher ohm.
I don't think the OP mentioned what wattage he is vaping at . If the coil is bad and the wattage too high even vaping 2 mg nic will be harsh and unbearable .
18mg is what I started on, but was using I an clear 30 s on a cool fire 1 @8.5 watts. New devices and sub ohm tanks are great for people who have been vaping for awhile but not so much for people just starting out. See if you can get higher resistance coils. Also high vg juice is a lot smoother. I make mine at 100% because I discovered I am allergic to pg. The nicotine is the only.thing that gives any throat hit.
This was good advice back in the days of regulated batteries throttled down to 3.2 volts and 2.6-3.2 ohm cartos. As others have noted, the higher wattage and lower resistance devices of today call for lower nic content.
After almost five years of vaping, I find I still can't direct-to-lung, or for that matter, inhale fully down to my toenails from a mouthful of vapor. I only take the vapor down to about my larynx. Any deeper and it's like inhaling an angry porcupine tail-first. (For the record, I'm using a 1.8 ohm coil in a Nautilus Aspire on a Provari at 4.0 volts. The e-liquid is 18 mg./ml.)
Another factor to consider is that the vapor droplets are much larger than smoke particles. Thus, the nicotine is encased in something which is much more easily assimilated via mouth and throat cells than lung cells. Your lung cells actually don't take in much nicotine from vapor droplets. In this respect, vaping is more like smoking a pipe or cigar than it is like smoking a cigarette.
Hope all this helps!
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Since you don't know the pg/vg ratio there is a slight chance the harshness may be caused by the liquid, if it is high pg (60%+) which will slightly increase throat hit/harshness.
If hardly any vapor is exhaled ( as you mentioned) and harsh, I'd bet you're experiencing dry hits.
Even 80pg/20vg will produce more vapor than what you'd see from the exhale of a cigarette.
I agree with the too high mg/ml nic,
for a one pack a day smoker just starting to vape with a 1Ω delivery device used on an unregulated / non variable output power device I'd say 10 - 12 mg/ml nic for full strength/ flavor or 6 - 8 mg/ml nic for light cigarettes.
Using the ego one freshly charged 4.2v / 1Ω = 17.5ish W.
Even as the battery nears charge depletion/cut off 3.3v /1Ω = 10.8ish W.
10w ~ 17w + 1Ω + 18 mg/ml nic is going to be harsh for most folks just starting to vape.
12 mg/ml nic will be slightly less harsh, 8 mg/ml nic even less harsh.
If hardly any vapor is exhaled ( as you mentioned) and harsh, I'd bet you're experiencing dry hits.
Even 80pg/20vg will produce more vapor than what you'd see from the exhale of a cigarette.
I agree with the too high mg/ml nic,
for a one pack a day smoker just starting to vape with a 1Ω delivery device used on an unregulated / non variable output power device I'd say 10 - 12 mg/ml nic for full strength/ flavor or 6 - 8 mg/ml nic for light cigarettes.
Using the ego one freshly charged 4.2v / 1Ω = 17.5ish W.
Even as the battery nears charge depletion/cut off 3.3v /1Ω = 10.8ish W.
10w ~ 17w + 1Ω + 18 mg/ml nic is going to be harsh for most folks just starting to vape.
12 mg/ml nic will be slightly less harsh, 8 mg/ml nic even less harsh.
The OP is using an Ego One. Do you know what an Ego One is? It is not adjustable. It is an unregulated mod. It puts out full battery power. A 1 ohm coil at 4.2 volts would be using almost 18 watts on a freshly charged battery. High nicotine at that level can feel harsh to some people. I came to vaping from inhaling cigars so I can vape higher nic than some people. Vaping 18 mg in my Ego One tank doesn't feel harsh to me but it could to someone else.
.. should I comment?
Nope. I'm going to sit this one out.
It took me over a year to vape at even 9 watts. I coughed on 6 watts for the first month.
(whoops, I commented...)
Nope. I'm going to sit this one out.
It took me over a year to vape at even 9 watts. I coughed on 6 watts for the first month.
(whoops, I commented...)
Its the NIC, the PG, the WATTAGE, or the RESISTANCE of your coil, or it's DRY-HITS.
Try lowing your nicotine 1st and foremost. (soon as you can)
Since you cannot immediately get to the store to do this, IF you have a regulated mod, then I suggest lowing your wattage. NEXT, perhaps try fiddling with your airflow. See if a bigger airflow helps. Hell, see if LESS airflow helps! If you are using a mechanical-mod, then I am sure you ALREADY know that, to lower ur wattage, u must lower your coil's OHMS/Resistance. Try a lower ohm coil, if you must. Otherwise, just lower the wattage, and/or try vaping in mechanical-mod. (some regulated mods have this option)
I do hope that the above helps. If it doesn't, you will want to experiment with LOWER nicotine levels, and e-liquids with LESS Propylene Glycol & MORE Vegetable Glycerin. PG hits the throat in a harsh way. Where-as, Vegetable Glycerin hits your lungs in a heavy manner. Figure-out a good balance 4 YOU!
Please give my suggestions & the suggestions of the other's a try, & please, ENJOY that vape journey!!
Try lowing your nicotine 1st and foremost. (soon as you can)
Since you cannot immediately get to the store to do this, IF you have a regulated mod, then I suggest lowing your wattage. NEXT, perhaps try fiddling with your airflow. See if a bigger airflow helps. Hell, see if LESS airflow helps! If you are using a mechanical-mod, then I am sure you ALREADY know that, to lower ur wattage, u must lower your coil's OHMS/Resistance. Try a lower ohm coil, if you must. Otherwise, just lower the wattage, and/or try vaping in mechanical-mod. (some regulated mods have this option)
I do hope that the above helps. If it doesn't, you will want to experiment with LOWER nicotine levels, and e-liquids with LESS Propylene Glycol & MORE Vegetable Glycerin.
PG hits the throat in a harsh way. Where-as, Vegetable Glycerin hits your lungs in a heavy manner. Figure-out a good balance 4 YOU! Please give my suggestions & the suggestions of the other's a try, & please, ENJOY that vape journey!!
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