New "Turbo" Design Cartomizer Feedback Thread

[jgdovin]

I wouldn't be the best person to try to answer that (or to have necessarily grasped it fully myself lol), but what the heck, I'll take a stab at an elementary version of it. From what I understand: No, not exactly -- it's not that this model has solved the burning problem (or was designed with that in mind specifically); but it is better than other premiums on that count (uncertain about regulars). Less likely to do so; possibly easier to keep from doing so; seemingly less damage evident even if has done so. These achieve the enhanced vapor and flavor without using a lower resistance as other models do, which pumps up the heat and can lead to more of the related consequences.

Now maybe someone who speaks the language of this stuff will explain it better, and/or correct whatever might need to be in the above.

Oh and mpetva, here's a link to the page that includes the two flavor choices currently available in the Turbo. (Maybe Ben should add the word 'Turbo' to the descriptions, to help keep things clear. ) He may be looking to add other flavors; started a thread in here seeking flavor suggestions. Or maybe that pertained to refill juice flavors, not sure.

That is a good basic explanation of whats going on. Yes these cartos are a bit higher resistance which means not quite as hot (which you can tell because it takes alot of chain vaping to get the outside even warm on these)

The problem here is going to be coming up with a safe material to use inside that allows juice to flow through, but has a higher melting point. On a regular atty, you have a metal mesh that wicks from the filler and brings it to the heated atomizer, on a cartomizer the atomizer (heating coil) is touching the material that is your filler.

Unfortionatly there is always a downside, it would take an engineering genious to make one item perfect for everyone. So for me, paying attention to making sure these dont get too dry (which would take a while with how much they hold) or making sure I dont chain vape every 3 seconds to allow juice to flow, is a minor annoyance compared to the benefits cartos give me.

That is my elementary explanation

 

[skydragon]

I want to preface this by saying I like these cartos and think they have the potential to be the best I have tried.

With that said, I have cracked (and I do pretty much mean "cracked" ) two of these open after one usage. One was not burned (or whatever you want to call it) and the other was. Rather badly. I don't know if it was because the inner tube was so off center that it was almost touching the outer casing or what. I did try Scott's method of pushing a paperclip through but that must not be enough to keep the tube centered.

Making sure the inner tube is centered is one of the main reasons I want to be able to get the cap off with relative ease. If Ben could get them made like that, I would definitely try some more.

 

[Katya]

You made me nervous, so I grabbed the 2 cartos i have been vaping successfully for three days now and decided to investigate. I wrapped them both in a piece of aluminum foil and immersed in just-boiled water for about a minute. The caps came off easily, no cracking, no violence. Inside, everything was clean and lovely, even though the center post in one of them was slightly off center. I refilled them from battery end and watched the whole process. I fluffed up the batting and centered the post. Like new.

Since I too like to see what's going on inside my cartos, this will be my method of dealing with them: aluminum foil wrap, quick dip, open and watch and have fun. The batting is much denser in the Turbos than in other premiums I've dealt with and I belive that it contributes to their excellent wicking properties. I may be dead wrong on this one.

I still love them. And now that I finally got those endcaps off in a nonviolent way, I'm a happy vaper.

 

[Belletrist]

Oh, and, Belle, don't tell anybody about your video! They may figure it out. Nice job, BTW, hat notwithstanding.

lol, they'd already sold out, right after the text review. you got somethin against my hat?

 

[skydragon]

You made me nervous, so I grabbed the 2 cartos i have been vaping successfully for three days now and decided to investigate. I wrapped them both in a piece of aluminum foil and immersed in just-boiled water for about a minute. The caps came off easily, no cracking, no violence. Inside, everything was clean and lovely, even though the center post in one of them was slightly off center. I refilled them from battery end and watched the whole process. I fluffed up the batting and centered the post. Like new.

Since I too like to see what's going on inside my cartos, this will be my method of dealing with them: aluminum foil wrap, quick dip, open and watch and have fun. The batting is much denser in the Turbos than in other premiums I've dealt with and I belive that it contributes to their excellent wicking properties. I may be dead wrong on this one.

I still love them. And now that I finally got those endcaps off in a nonviolent way, I'm a happy vaper.

Hi Katya,

What does the aluminum foil do to make the caps pop off? Maybe steam them a little? I had put the the end cap in very hot (not still boiling) water and still broke both of them. I will try the aluminum on the next one I tear apart but am curious how it makes a difference. I had to tear out the filling to see the burnt (or whatever you want to call it) part. You have to unwrap it some and you start seeing holes in it as you get closer to the tube and on the one the tube part was pretty crispy. But, the first one wasn't so I still have hope.

When you fill yours, about how many cigs. worth would you say you get out of one fill. I know it is just an approximation as everyone would be different. Thanks.

 

[Katya]

Hi Katya,

What does the aluminum foil do to make the caps pop off? Maybe steam them a little? I had put the the end cap in very hot (not still boiling) water and still broke both of them. I will try the aluminum on the next one I tear apart but am curious how it makes a difference. I had to tear out the filling to see the burnt (or whatever you want to call it) part. You have to unwrap it some and you start seeing holes in it as you get closer to the tube and on the one the tube part was pretty crispy. But, the first one wasn't so I still have hope.

When you fill yours, about how many cigs. worth would you say you get out of one fill. I know it is just an approximation as everyone would be different. Thanks.

Sorry, Skydragon, my description was so unclear. I wrap the mouth-end of the carto with aluminum foil, covering about 3/4 of the carto, to prevent hot water being wicked into the batting. Then I immerse the covered end (1/4 to 1/2 of carto's height) in just-boiled water for about 1 minute (holding it with tongs, it gets hot), slide the wrapper off and remove the endpiece with a tip of my tiny sawing scissors' blade. Any other device may be used, like a bent paper clip, a pushpin, a small crochet needle, whatever. If I meet any resistance, I rewrap and repeat the dip. The water needs to be really hot, just below boiling. I've done it several times with different cartomizers with very good results. On my turbos, the separation was so clean that I was able to put the same endcap back on and reuse it. The key is to be patient and gentle. Just pry it out and up slowly. BTW, it was Adrenalynn on another forum who came up with the hot water bath to loosen the glue. I only added the aluminum foil. Full disclosure.

Now, I agree that one has to tear out the filling to see the burn. Believe me, I've ripped many cartomizers (premiums and regular) just to see what was going on. Some of them were indeed toast (burnt filling, holes, charred inner tube, etc.), some were fine. But I always had a reason to rip'em--the telltale funny smell of something melting, burning, toasting, however faint. I refilled my turbos several times (I refill early and often, perhaps more often than necessary, just because I'm slightly paranoid now) and I never had any reason to suspect the burn. So I have a question for you: did you have a warning sign of any kind that the carto was beginning to smell funny? Any hint?

The Turbos hold a lot of juice, I managed to put 32-34 drops in a brand new blanks without overfilling, so that's more than 1 mL. My estimate is that I get probably 150-200 inhalations from a full carto. I don't chainvape and I take rather short drags (5-6 sec) on a manual 3.7v battery, so there are no primer puffs. This is the best I can do. This is very vague, I know.

Ooops, gotta go, we're having an earthquake, it feels like a big one!!!

 

[Katya]

lol, they'd already sold out, right after the text review. you got somethin against my hat?

Yup! I read the review and ordered the very last box.

I love your hat, but it obscured your lovely face. I'd rather watch your face than your hat.

 

[miss MiA]

Yup! I read the review and ordered the very last box.

I love your hat, but it obscured your lovely face. I'd rather watch your face than your hat.

...and I SO envied her sunny, inviting deck, and beautiful, tree-filled spread. We gots us some lovely and fascinating sights up here in the big city, but one gets to longing for some of them there lush open spaces after years in the concrete jungle! (Altho right outside my window is an unobstructed view of Lake Michigan, so guess I shouldn't complain too much! ) Yup, unlike many posters here who put "Chicago" as their location when they're actually in a 'burb of it, I, ahem, really AM in downtown Chicago proper.

 

[skydragon]

Sorry, Skydragon, my description was so unclear. I wrap the mouth-end of the carto with aluminum foil, covering about 3/4 of the carto, to prevent hot water being wicked into the batting. Then I immerse the covered end (1/4 to 1/2 of carto's height) in just-boiled water for about 1 minute (holding it with tongs, it gets hot), slide the wrapper off and remove the endpiece with a tip of my tiny sawing scissors' blade. Any other device may be used, like a bent paper clip, a pushpin, a small crochet needle, whatever. If I meet any resistance, I rewrap and repeat the dip. The water needs to be really hot, just below boiling. I've done it several times with different cartomizers with very good results. On my turbos, the separation was so clean that I was able to put the same endcap back on and reuse it. The key is to be patient and gentle. Just pry it out and up slowly.

LOL. thank you for explaining that Katya. I would have been putting in baked potato wrapped cartos.

Now, I agree that one has to tear out the filling to see the burn. Believe me, I've ripped many cartomizers (premiums and regular) just to see what was going on. Some of them were indeed toast (burnt filling, holes, charred inner tube, etc.), some were fine. But I always had a reason to rip'em--the telltale funny smell of something melting, burning, toasting, however faint. I refilled my turbos several times (I refill early and often, perhaps more often than necessary, just because I'm slightly paranoid now) and I never had any reason to suspect the burn. So I have a question for you: did you have a warning sign of any kind that the carto was beginning to smell funny? Any hint?

What I am going to say is primarily in regards go KR8 cartos. I very seldom had any hint that they were burning. I top off frequently. I can honestly say I never vaped one dry. So just a couple of times did I get a hint of a bad taste but when I pulled many of them apart what I saw was something that concerns me quite a bit. After everyone chimed in and said they "were" disposable and only supposed to be used once, I tried that. The filler was still wet and they were still burnt. (Sorry Scott but I don't know what other term to use.) With these Turbo's, I am taking them apart to compare. So far it is one not and one burned. If I have time I am going to take a third one apart tonight. I am hoping, hoping, hoping it is not burnt. I know many have effortlessly made the transition to atties but I so want to use cartos. I'm just not of the opinion that "anything" is automatically better than anologs.




The Turbos hold a lot of juice, I managed to put 32-34 drops in a brand new blanks without overfilling, so that's more than 1 mL. My estimate is that I get probably 150-200 inhalations from a full carto. I don't chainvape and I take rather short drags (5-6 sec) on a manual 3.7v battery, so there are no primer puffs. This is the best I can do. This is very vague, I know.

No, not vague. I understand everyone is different but it gives me an idea if I am doing things right with it.

Ooops, gotta go, we're having an earthquake, it feels like a big one!!!

Oh No! Grab your juice and e-cig and run and hide.

......................

 

[skydragon]

Katya,

I thought you were kidding about the earthquake but just found out there really was one. I very sincerely hope everything is okay with you.

 

[sideburn]

yeah i'm in san diego.. pretty close to it. it was a good one. at first i thought it was my dog scratching herself on the couch. but then it quickly felt like i was on a boat.

 

[Katya]

Katya,

I thought you were kidding about the earthquake but just found out there really was one. I very sincerely hope everything is okay with you.

No kidding, hon. It was nasty. We're fine, but there was a fatality, and a bunch of people injured, closer to the epicenter. 7.2 is big, even by our standards.

So I'm on my day four of vaping two Turbos, exclusively. No sign of trouble, great vapor production, perfect flavor. I have no intention of ripping them apart (yet) as Ben is out of blanks. I'll keep you posted.

 

[skydragon]

No kidding, hon. It was nasty. We're fine, but there was a fatality, and a bunch of people injured, closer to the epicenter. 7.2 is big, even by our standards.

So I'm on my day four of vaping two Turbos, exclusively. No sign of trouble, great vapor production, perfect flavor. I have no intention of ripping them apart (yet) as Ben is out of blanks. I'll keep you posted.

I am very glad to hear you and others on here are okay. I felt horrible about my "run and hide" comment when I found out there really was an earthquake. So I apologize for that flippant remark. I had no idea but if in the future you ever say there is an earthquake, I will not think you are kidding. I hope you all continue to be safe.

 

[syntaxevasion]

Hey everyone! I leave for a few days and come back to a lot of good conversation about these new turbos..Anyways, thanks for the feedback.. Working on getting those soft caps! Hope everyone had a great Easter weekend!
Ben

 

[syntaxevasion]

Ah, remember too we're currently doing promotional coupons for anybody that posts a review (trying to get the word out!).. Just send me the link to your review via PM and post the link on the thread on here..)

If you've done one already and I forgot to send you a coupon, PM me and I'll make sure it's taken care of

Ben

 

[syntaxevasion]

Whoa, didn't know there was an earthquake out that way..Glad you're ok..!

 

[skydragon]

Hey everyone! I leave for a few days and come back to a lot of good conversation about these new turbos..Anyways, thanks for the feedback.. Working on getting those soft caps! Hope everyone had a great Easter weekend!
Ben

Ben,
That is great (for me at least) that you are working on getting soft tips. Do you have any idea about how long it will take?

 

[Greyz]

Got a new Nebula with the Turbo cartos. Man these things rock! I don't think these are the same manufacture as the hard cap v4l ones cause they're way better!!! I'd ask that you don't change a thing on these puppies but I know a lot of people like the soft cap. Can you make both soft cap and these hard caps available? I love these things!! Hate to see anything change on them...

 

[Turbo]

Will the soft cap cartos still have the same ohm rating as the hard caps?

 

[syntaxevasion]

Soft caps arriving soon. Lots of blanks for you guys too... We take your feedback seriously