New User Hi And Help!!

[Automaton]

Im hoping I havent made a mistake and got the atomizer version when I should have gone the carto route...ARGHHH!!!!

Filler is flush to the edge, thats fine. Edges, I dont know if they were lined up or not, but nothing is burnt so that is OK. I lined them up.

I havent tried dropping onto the bridge of it yet, I will try that later. The kit in total cost me £41, about 60 dollars or so, thats with a usb charger and a bottle of cherry 11mg liquid. Yes, that might be a bit low, but it is killing my throat when i take a deep slow drag, and I dont get that much vapor.

Also, I have another silver bit that looks like an atomizer, but it doesnt have a bridge or anything, and I presumed that was for charging? but you can charge without this "extension"....haha this is so frustrating!!

Sorry!

K

Hmmm... Not sure about the silver bit.

Cartos have their own pros and cons. I do think they are less fiddly, but they can certainly go wrong too. If you really can't get this working how you want, you should certainly look into 510 cartomizers.

So, more stuff to try.

How long have you been using that atomizer? If it's been more than, say, 2 days, it could be a bit gunked up, and the "harsh" might be baked on juice.

In that case, try an alcohol soak.

Get 70%+ ispopropyl alcohol, and drop the atty in. Let it sit for 5-10 minutes, and then lift it out, with the atty facing up. Watch the alcohol drain out the bottom. You're looking for a stream.

If it's still "dripping," dunk it back in the alcohol, lift it out again, atty facing up, and let it drain. You should start seeing a stream come out the bottom after doing this a few times.

Set it in a well-ventilated area (like in front of a fan) to dry overnight. In the morning, take a sniff of the atty. If you can't smell alcohol, it's dry.

If you haven't been using the atty for long... it's entirely possible that it's you.

Smoking damages the cilia in your nose, throat, and lungs. Ever coughed up a lung when you yawned in a hot shower? The same thing can happen when you start vaping...

The droplets of moisture don't get trapped by your cilia, because they aren't working right. So it lands directly on your tissue, and your brain thinks you're drowning, so you cough.

This took about 3 or 4 days to go away for me - but I'm young and only smoked for a few years. For some, it can take a little longer.

Atty vets, any other ideas?

 

[Kal1nikta]

Hmmm... Not sure about the silver bit.

Cartos have their own pros and cons. I do think they are less fiddly, but they can certainly go wrong too. If you really can't get this working how you want, you should certainly look into 510 cartomizers.

So, more stuff to try.

How long have you been using that atomizer? If it's been more than, say, 2 days, it could be a bit gunked up, and the "harsh" might be baked on juice.

In that case, try an alcohol soak.

Get 70%+ ispopropyl alcohol, and drop the atty in. Let it sit for 5-10 minutes, and then lift it out, with the atty facing up. Watch the alcohol drain out the bottom. You're looking for a stream.

If it's still "dripping," dunk it back in the alcohol, lift it out again, atty facing up, and let it drain. You should start seeing a stream come out the bottom after doing this a few times.

Set it in a well-ventilated area (like in front of a fan) to dry overnight. In the morning, take a sniff of the atty. If you can't smell alcohol, it's dry.

If you haven't been using the atty for long... it's entirely possible that it's you.

Smoking damages the cilia in your nose, throat, and lungs. Ever coughed up a lung when you yawned in a hot shower? The same thing can happen when you start vaping...

The droplets of moisture don't get trapped by your cilia, because they aren't working right. So it lands directly on your tissue, and your brain thinks you're drowning, so you cough.

This took about 3 or 4 days to go away for me - but I'm young and only smoked for a few years. For some, it can take a little longer.

Atty vets, any other ideas?

Its literally brand new. i broke it all out of the box last night, charged her up and have been experimenting today. I lined up the bridge with the flat edges(I get it now, so more of the bridge goes into the filler right?), and it improved it slightly. It still takes a hell of a draw to get anything through it.

Maybe my expectations are too high? I was thinking surely if it was an electronic cigarette it would give a really good hit, if a little different. Maybe I was expecting more vapor and more of a direct throat hit, which it isnt as you have to tug on it like mad!

I was thinking of increasing the nicotine level as someone in another post put, if you were hevauily addicted to analogues...(which I was), then just get something that makes the transition easy...but this isnt going to solve the throat hit or vapor problem is it. I hope its nothing im doing wrong....I dont think so.

Thanks for taking the time to help me though, it is appreciated and I will try different things to get it working. Maybe if I cant get it to do what I want I should start a new thread basically saying what I want, which is decent throat hit/big vapor/and low admin....in your eyes if thats what I want...what would you recommend?

If I get it right, then I have no problem throwing another $50-100 at it as I will still be spending loads less than on analogues...so its a no brainer if it WORKS!...

BIG VAPOR>>>BIG THROAT HIT>>LOW ADMIN....go go go hahaha

Cheers

K

 

[Automaton]

A hard draw really does sound like a gunky/flooded atty to me, although most of my atty experience is with 901's. I've tried 510's before, but I haven't spent a lot of time with them.

Try blowing out the atty into a tissue... just for the hell of it. It may be do nothing, but it can't hurt.

Anyway, I'd give it a couple more days for you to get a handle on it. If it really won't work for you, here's the job.

There are a few things you can do to get more throat hit:
1. Up the nicotine level
2. Go to spicy flavors (cinnamon, some clove flavors, etc)
3. Switch to cartos
4. Get a mod

If the first two don't do it for you, you're going to have to compromise.

Cartos will give you more throat hit. But less vapor. Although from the sounds of things, your atomizer isn't currently performing to its full potential. A carto gives less vapor than a well-performing 510 atomizer... but it may give more vapor than what you're getting now.

Cartos don't suck for vapor - I can get a LOT out of mine, using juice with a bit of VG in it. It's just not as much as a well-functioning atty.

Cartos are also very, very low maintenance. I can refill a carto in 30 seconds, and it just works for the next 3 or 4 hours. But the catch is that they don't last as long as a well-cared for atomizer can.

I personally use a Kr8080D-1 e-cig ($35-45 USD for a kit), which comes with cartomizers as standards. It is slightly higher voltage than the 510, so it also gives slightly warmer vapor, and thus more throat hit. But, I don't get as much vapor from my cartos as I do from my 901 atty (which will work on a Kr808D-1 battery).

I don't mind that, because I get more throat hit.

If you don't want to compromise on vapor, you're going to need to compromise on looks.

Next option is buying a 5v mod. None of them look anything at all like a cigarette, and some of them are rather large. But that's how you get big throat hit AND big vapor.

I'd recommend "try before you buy" with mods. And the easiest way to do that is to buy a low resistence (LR) 510 atomizer. It is very similar to a 5v mod experience. So is a pass-through, which is where you have your battery directly powered through a USB cord. You can buy them for the 510.

If you like those, you'll like a mod.

 

[Kal1nikta]

Yes after adding a good drip of fluid, it was gurgling, but it passed off as I used it. I dont see how it got flooded though as I dont drip on the bridge, only the filler haha...god this is funny reading it back!

"I dont drip on the bridge...only the filler"....timeless.

Is there a burn in time for these things?? I presume not.

Yes I was thinking of getting a spicy flavour like cinnamon and a higher strength to see how that goes.

I mean I cant say it doesnt work, it just doesnt work that well.

I agree the atomizer isnt performing as well as I want it to. People are going home at work soon, so im going to bust out some deskside experiments!

So can I get cartos for my JOYE 510 then??? Can you put a link up? I might try that.

I think ill leave the mods for now, and see if I can work this out with what I have...

Thanks for your input..you must be pulling your hair out!

K

 

[Automaton]

The atty can flood from the filler. Happens to me sometimes.

Many people do find that atties take a few days to "break in." I have only gotten atties second-hand, so I don't have experience with that.

Yes, anything advertised as Joye 510 will work with your Titan. I took a look at the two UK companies I know of that sell the 510 - Totally Wicked and Liberty Flights - and neither of them had 510 cartomizers.

Check out ElectronicStix.com. I know they sell the 510 cartomizers, however I am unsure if they ship to the UK. Also try CigNot.com. Again, not sure if they ship international.

Not sure why none of the 510 gurus have shown up yet... C'mon guys!

Nah, I don't mind it at all. These are potentially life-saving devices. I am more than happy to widdle away my time on ECF and trying to help people make it work for them.

 

[Kal1nikta]

The atty can flood from the filler. Happens to me sometimes.

Many people do find that atties take a few days to "break in." I have only gotten atties second-hand, so I don't have experience with that.

Yes, anything advertised as Joye 510 will work with your Titan. I took a look at the two UK companies I know of that sell the 510 - Totally Wicked and Liberty Flights - and neither of them had 510 cartomizers.

Check out ElectronicStix.com. I know they sell the 510 cartomizers, however I am unsure if they ship to the UK. Also try CigNot.com. Again, not sure if they ship international.

Not sure why none of the 510 gurus have shown up yet... C'mon guys!

Nah, I don't mind it at all. These are potentially life-saving devices. I am more than happy to widdle away my time on ECF and trying to help people make it work for them.

Also...what is VG? I know its something to do with e-fluid.

K

 

[Automaton]

VG is Vegetable Glycerin.

It is one of the main "carriers" used for vaporizing liquid. The other is PG (propylene glycol)

They have different attributes, as far as what the vapor is like.

PG gives more throat hit and stronger flavor, but less vapor.

VG gives more vapor and a smoother throat hit, but less flavor.

Everyone has their "preference" of what sort of balance they like. Personally, I dig 90% PG and 10% VG, because I'm a throat hit and flavor junkie... but I like that little extra vapor boost from having a touch of VG.

Some people vape only PG or only VG and everything in between.

It's entirely possible you may like higher VG liquid, for the less harsh throat hit and extra vapor.

 

[Kal1nikta]

Thanks for all your input Mistress, much appreciated. OK an update. It looks at though the atty is starting to work better, and I am getting more through it than I was.

What I have definitely decided though is I need to up the nicotine strength as I am still madly craving cigarettes, so I know its not high enough.

I need to get a sample selection of liquids, I was thinking peppermint, cinammon stuff like that?

K