New vaper looking for a kit that doesn't deliver much nicotine, but a nice amount of vapor

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dark12

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Hey everyone.

Let me start of by saying I really appreciate the very helpful and mature community you all have here. It is refreshing to have found a site that isn't clearly biased toward a certain product/brand.

A little about me: I am in my mid-20s. I smoked at most 3 cigarettes per day for about a 2 year period after high school. I quit smoking 3 years ago because I want to live a long and healthy life without tar building up in my respiratory system.
Because I completely quit smoking tobacco, I did not miss the nicotine buzz. Many of my friends who smoked for many years recently switched to e-cigs. We have been playing some board games lately and it looked like fun to blow smoke like I used to without having to go outside and have that nasty smell everywhere.

To try it out, I purchased a disposable Blu e-cig from the supermarket for $9. I understand that particular product isn't seen as a very good e-cig among this community, but I really liked it.
Here's the thing. That e-cig lasted me 3 days and apparently has 20-24mg so I got intense nicotine buzzes that almost made me sick. The vapor was much thinner than my friends' refillable and rechargeable e-cigs. I think it would be awesome to have a reusable kit that produces thick vapor with the amount of nicotine that a light or ultra light cigarette would have.

The Blu disposable I bought is regular tobacco flavored and was good, but I wouldn't mind trying other flavors. I used to enjoy smoking fruity flavored tobacco from a hookah.

I did some searching on the site and I found so much information that I got a bit overwhelmed with the wave of new information.
I was curious if there is an all-around good kit that fits the bill of what I am looking for. Lots of vapor, low nicotine content, other flavor possibilities a plus. Also, I would like something that will last me a while. I have seen some kits that can be recharged via usb ports and that seems very convenient. Going through a reputable dealer is important to me. My price range is $30-$75, but I am flexible. I am willing to spend more if it will be noticeably better.

It is obvious you folks know what you are talking about and I really appreciate you taking the time to read this and share your experience! :D
 

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Any device that is refillable can be filled with 0 nicotine. Now, we might have to ask what you mean by "a nice amount of vapor". Since you are experimenting with Blu, I don't suppose you are going to be hard to please. I happen to be using a Joyetech Twist battery at the moment with a Kanger T3s clearomizer on top. A little shopping could easily get you started on your general budget, but you would soon discover the joy of an extra battery. How committed to the cigalike design are you?

Just by the way, don't try to save money using a Blu charger with any other device. I have heard it's polarity is opposite of every thing else out there and could be dangerous.

I sure hope I didn't raise more questions than answers. Continue to ask. It's bedtime, but someone else will be along soon and you still need four more posts to get out of the playpen.
 

dark12

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Thanks for the quick replies!

3mg to 6mg sounds like the sweet spot.
I like the design of the blu. It just seems classy looking to me. But i have seen some very cool looking ones that are a bit fancier and longer. The fat cigar ones seem impractical though.

So when i say a lot of vapor i mean as much vapor as possible for my price range. If something is $20 more but produces a much thicker vapor then i would definitely go for that.

An extra battery seems like a useful thing to have around.

The first person to reply suggested an ego kit. I will check that out in the morning. Does anyone have any other suggestions such as a particular kit plus an extra battery or vial of e-liquid?
How about particular retailers? I presume i need to purchase online because most of the smoke shops around me seem overpriced for everything they sell. I havent checked e-cigs though.

I just dont want to buy a certain starter kit that looks cool and have it end up being a piece of junk that has bad battery life or barely visible vapor.

Once again, i appreciate the advice greatly!!
 
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A big part of the vapor production is the PG/VG ratio of your ejuice. Most of the vapor comes from VG. So if you order PG/VG 60/40 or 50/50 you will get plenty of vapor. VG is quite thick. If I were you I'd try PG/VG 60/40 for starters. It is amazing what a difference this ratio makes to the amount of vapor. Most ejuice vendors give the option of picking your ratio when you order.

The battery you buy is the power source. The vapor comes from the ejuice. Buy small samples of flavors to try out.
 

dark12

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Yea about $75 is my preferred limit, but i have no issue going higher if it is worth it. That price is for everything though. So charger, some liquid, and battery.
Like i said i am flexible though.
How about the best under $100 and the best under $75?
Or whatever you have experience with that you enjoy.
Madvapes is a good safe site to buy from then? That helps ty
 

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A big part of the vapor production is the PG/VG ratio of your ejuice. Most of the vapor comes from VG. So if you order PG/VG 60/40 or 50/50 you will get plenty of vapor. VG is quite thick. If I were you I'd try PG/VG 60/40 for starters. It is amazing what a difference this ratio makes to the amount of vapor. Most ejuice vendors give the option of picking your ratio when you order.

The battery you buy is the power source. The vapor comes from the ejuice. Buy small samples of flavors to try out.

Yea listen to this guy hes right it mostly depends on the vg and pg amount. But aslo cheap crappy tanks wont help either.
 

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Yea about $75 is my preferred limit, but i have no issue going higher if it is worth it. That price is for everything though. So charger, some liquid, and battery.
Like i said i am flexible though.
How about the best under $100 and the best under $75?
Or whatever you have experience with that you enjoy.
Madvapes is a good safe site to buy from then? That helps ty

Yea id say start off with a 50 50 vg pg blend. Some people have sensitivity to high pgs tho.
Any site listed here Forum Suppliers is all good. Madvapes and discountvapers are cheap sites
 

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We all have good points to provide and I for one highly agree that 100% vg juice provides the "largest clouds" however does seem to limit flavor. You can get a regular battery but its best to get one that you can adjust voltage or wattage so you can fine tune to your liking. Keep in mind that drippers provide better tast and clouds but require time and knowlege were as tanks are mostly "fill and go".

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Yea about $75 is my preferred limit, but i have no issue going higher if it is worth it. That price is for everything though. So charger, some liquid, and battery.
Like i said i am flexible though.
How about the best under $100 and the best under $75?
Or whatever you have experience with that you enjoy.
Madvapes is a good safe site to buy from then? That helps ty

Ok. The MVP2 - which is a box shape. Long lasting battery, variable wattage - meaning you can adjust the power and the temperature.
At this link:
Innokin iTaste MVP V2.0 Starter Kit - Mt Baker Vapor - Electronic Cigarettes

Use coupon code ECF for 10% off at checkout. A good vendor. He also sells ejuice. You can get some as part of that kit for free.

Mad Vapes sell the MVP2 too:
iTaste 2.0 MVP Kit with iClear16

For something smaller, cigar-ish size, the itaste vv3:
Innokin iTaste VV V3.0

Also here:
Innokin iTaste VV V3.0 Starter Kit - Mt Baker Vapor - Electronic Cigarettes

Or an ego twist - scroll down on this page:
JOYE eGo-CC Starter Kits & Accessories | Joyetech eGo-CC E-Cigarettes

The higher the mah the longer the battery lasts. Generally 100 mah equals about 1 hour of actual vape time. So a 900 mah ego is about 8-9 hours of vape time.

That's batteries. You should have enough left to buy some toppers and ejuice if they aren't part of the deal.
 

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I'm start vaping with $25 device, mixed juice with 8 mg and 0 mg nic.
That was 2 months ago, now using mecha and genny with 0mg nics.
Build your own rba / rda, it's more satisfying.

I agree completely as long as the OP and anyone else considering a mech is willing to learn about battery safety, coil rebuilding and most importantly know ohms law. If you know and use correctly those three things a mech is probably the safest way to go, if you don't know those things, a mech is dangerous to say the least. Some people don't want to be bothered with all of that just so they can have a vape.
 

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I agree completely as long as the OP and anyone else considering a mech is willing to learn about battery safety, coil rebuilding and most importantly know ohms law. If you know and use correctly those three things a mech is probably the safest way to go, if you don't know those things, a mech is dangerous to say the least. Some people don't want to be bothered with all of that just so they can have a vape.

Wise words...a newbie needs to understand a few important things before venturing into the world of unregulated mods and rebuilding...walk before you run and make sure safety is observed...recommending mechs to a new vapor, right out of the gate, is not a good idea IMHO...
 

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Wise words...a newbie needs to understand a few important things before venturing into the world of unregulated mods and rebuilding...walk before you run and make sure safety is observed...recommending mechs to a new vapor, right out of the gate, is not a good idea IMHO...

Thanks Spike64
Since the cat is out of the bag, should probably add that Ohm's Law Calculator is your best friend if you go the mech route.
 

dark12

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Ive taken a few physics classes including thermodynamics so if necessary I think I could handle that.
Seems like everyone is recommending the MVP2, but the box shape turns me off. Sorry I am superficial in some ways. :-(
If that really is the best choice though, I will go with it.
The MVP3 looks much more like what I was hoping for design-wise.
It looks like I will try the starter kit with Apple flavor, 50/50, 6mg/ml.
How long will that bottle last?
Any other suggestions or is the MVP2/3 the best way to go?

I am going to be ordering after I get off work tonight at 11:30pm CST.
Once again, thanks so much for the information. Especially regarding retailers and discounts!
 

dark12

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So do you folks recommend that I get this kit along with an extra flavor or two?
mtbakervapor. com/e-cig-starter-kits/innokin-itaste-vv-v3-0-starter-kit/
(remove the space, it wont let me post links)
Gotta track down the correct battery so I can get an extra one of those too. I am almost always near a usb port anyway, so I might pass on that, but it depends on the cost.
Any other suggestions for accessories or even other kits?
 

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I like as a introduction device the joyetech ego c twist it's variable voltage so you can change the voltage depending on your juice flavors to bring out more flavor. It's a slim pen design and avaible.it in different colors. I really love mine. It's just what I need and it's not too big. The variable voltage is really nice to have. Check it out online and see if you like it.
 
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