New vaper(Provari v2.5) questions

[Vr6 Turbo]

Hello all, first of all thank you for the wealth of information in this awesome forum. I could spend an entire day sitting here and researching various ecig/vape related info and still feel like I ran out of time.

Anyhow, I am roughly 15-20 per day smoker and have ordered the Provari mini v2.5 to help me quit cigarettes. I've purchased samples of various things including atomizers, cartomizers, viva nova(believe I spelled it right), various concentration ratios of juices(pg/vg) and a carto tank from ibtanked. My main question is that since I'm trying to quit smoking with the provari, what combination of juice/what ohm 510 carto/dual coil vs single coil/standard resistance vs low resistance/and what voltage setting in conjunction with the rest of the choices would give me a throat hit, warmth and vape that would most resemble a drag from a cigarette? I'm trying to get this down ahead of time before my stuff arrives as I know the first day is going to be crucial in whether I just throw the thing in my drawer and go light a cig. I know that all the above options I mentioned- and combination with one another- can drastically change the experience so I want to at least be in the right ball park when I receive my stuff to give me the best chance of not giving up on this option.

My research has lead me to believe that straight 100% PG juice would most resemble the throat hit and amount of smoke a cigarette would create. I've also found that a ~2 ohm LR cartomizer would also allow for a better throat hit. I understand that a dual coil would warm the vape twice resulting in a warmer, more cigarette-smoke-like vape. I'd prob(guessing) be using 3.7 v if using the LR carto.

So to sum up my questions, please give me your opinions on the following for resembling a cigarette most:

- Cartomizer vs Atomizer
- LR vs SR
- Dual coil vs Single coil
- PG vs VG and/or ratio
- Voltage setting

So my guestimation from research has lead me to believe the following combo should give me the most smoke-like vape(mostly based off of various opinions and threads here on the forums):

- start with 100% PG or 80% pg/vg ratio
- 2 or 2.4 ohm Dual Coil LR cartomizer with a tank
- at 3.7v to 4v
*the viva nova comes with a 2.4 ohm head installed and comes with a 1.8 ohm(might be off on the ohm rating of the heads). Would that essentially be like using a 2.4 ohm carto in a tank? Would it resemble the warmth and throat hit of a dual coil or single coil carto? I'm just a bit confused in regards to the vivo nova. I probably should've held off on buying that and just started with the basics. Guess you can see how worried I am as far as getting everything fine tuned to the best smoke-like vape prior to it even being shipped out.

I wouldn't be surprised if I forgot some things but Im sure those questions will arise with your feedback.

Thanks in advance for your input as well as such an informative, supportive and diem to earth forum. I've been a forum nut for 15 years and the coolness and helpfulness in this forum puts every other forum to shame. Anyways, ill stop babbling.

Thanks again.

Rob

 

[ibm390s]

I already own the Provari 2.5 and i used this chart for setup. Basically you are measuring the resistance of the coil and adjust the voltage according to the chart.

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi and welcome!

Please excuse me, I have a hard time with reading comprehension (not joking). Have you actually vaped yet?

 

[Haktuspit]

PG gives more throat hit, VG gives more vapor. As far as ohms and voltages as far as I understand it is the wattage that matters most, or the combination of the right ohms at a specific voltage. If you want warm you want to be higher up on the chart below. Top coil clearomizers (like your vivi nova) will also give you a warmer vape as opposed to bottom coil (like an Evod).

https://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9dkanCt0I1qc8949o2_1280.png

Kind of funny reading your post. You want exactly what I wanted during the first two weeks I stopped smoking. After that I literally wanted nothing to do with throat hit and still feel that way.

You're right though this is the best forum that I've found. Welcome! I'll let the experts jump in and give you a better answer on all that.

 

[RooRooBears]

Welcome! Lots of info to cover there, but since I don't have much time I'll try to keep it short & simple, to the point as much as possible. First off, it's all about preference - as I'm sure that's the biggest thing that's been making you go back and forth. That said, these are MY preferences and what works for me (and why).

1. Cartomizer - great throat hit, great vapor production, great flavor, and lasts about 1 month for me with each carto. I use my cartomizers with Boge or SmokeTech DCT Tanks, either works great. Specially with a Provari.

2. SR at 3.0 ohms

3. Single coil - single coil, 3.0 ohm and two-hole pre-punched cartomizers (preferably laser drilled) are what a majority prefer. I've tried other types of cartos and these are also what work best for me.

4. 50PG / 50VG mix. PG is great for throat hit, but with 100%PG, you'll find yourself wanting more vapor production. I've come to love the 50/50 mix and it's what a good number of juice vendors use in their default mixes.

5. SR @ 3.0 ohms - I use 4.6 Volts.
LR @ 1.8 ohms - I use 3.6 Volts. (Refer to the Voltage/Resistance chart in my signature for optimal ranges for Wattage settings).

6. Nicotine dosage - For you, I'd start out at 24mg nicotine. Start high with nic dosage then work your way down to whichever dosage you feel happy with.

If you end up getting the Vivi Nova - make sure you're getting the GENUINE, LEGITIMATE Vivi Novas because it has airholes that will allow it work with your provari. If you get the copy cat versions, your Provari will have very minimal, if any at all, air draw with the Vivi Nova. I tried a Vivi Nova out at a local shop and there was absolutely no air draw with my Provari - they were selling copies.

Hope this helps! Cheers & happy vaping!

 

[Katya]

Anyhow, I am roughly 15-20 per day smoker and have ordered the Provari mini v2.5 to help me quit cigarettes. I've purchased samples of various things including atomizers, cartomizers, viva nova(believe I spelled it right), various concentration ratios of juices(pg/vg) and a carto tank from ibtanked. My main question is that since I'm trying to quit smoking with the provari, what combination of juice/what ohm 510 carto/dual coil vs single coil/standard resistance vs low resistance/and what voltage setting in conjunction with the rest of the choices would give me a throat hit, warmth and vape that would most resemble a drag from a cigarette? I'm trying to get this down ahead of time before my stuff arrives as I know the first day is going to be crucial in whether I just throw the thing in my drawer and go light a cig. I know that all the above options I mentioned- and combination with one another- can drastically change the experience so I want to at least be in the right ball park when I receive my stuff to give me the best chance of not giving up on this option.

Most people enjoy vaping in the 4.5-8.5 watts range. Your ProVari will help you do the math, even though it doesn't offer VW. Once you know the resistance of your atomizer, use this handy Ohm's Law calculator:

Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator

My research has lead me to believe that straight 100% PG juice would most resemble the throat hit and amount of smoke a cigarette would create.

PG percentage, nicotine strength, and higher Wattage provide TH.

I've also found that a ~2 ohm LR cartomizer would also allow for a better throat hit.

It's all about Wattage, not just resistance alone. You can achieve any wattage you want with almost any atty on your ProVari because it offers variable voltage.

I understand that a dual coil would warm the vape twice resulting in a warmer, more cigarette-smoke-like vape. I'd prob(guessing) be using 3.7 v if using the LR carto.

No it will not. DC cartos vape only as warm as each idividual coil will allow. So, if you have a 1.5Ω DC carto, you are vaping, basically, two 3Ω cartos at the same time.

So to sum up my questions, please give me your opinions on the following for resembling a cigarette most:

- Cartomizer vs Atomizer
- LR vs SR
- Dual coil vs Single coil
- PG vs VG and/or ratio
- Voltage setting

Every cartomizer contains an atomizer within. If you mean a dripping atomizer, some people claim that they get the best hit from that, but they are not very practical, as you have to constantly drip. LR vs SR doesn't mean much when you own a VV device--you can get any wattage you want. Single coil, without a doubt; unless you are willing to use your DC at very high voltage. Voltage setting depends on your desired wattage and the resistance of your atomizer,

So my guestimation from research has lead me to believe the following combo should give me the most smoke-like vape(mostly based off of various opinions and threads here on the forums):

- start with 100% PG or 80% pg/vg ratio

I like the 80/20 ratio. PG alone tends to be very harsh.

- 2 or 2.4 ohm Dual Coil LR cartomizer with a tank
- at 3.7v to 4v
*the viva nova comes with a 2.4 ohm head installed and comes with a 1.8 ohm(might be off on the ohm rating of the heads). Would that essentially be like using a 2.4 ohm carto in a tank? Would it resemble the warmth and throat hit of a dual coil or single coil carto? I'm just a bit confused in regards to the vivo nova. I probably should've held off on buying that and just started with the basics. Guess you can see how worried I am as far as getting everything fine tuned to the best smoke-like vape prior to it even being shipped out.

See above. It's all about wattage (power, heat) that you can regulate with the help of your ProVari.

 

[The Ocelot]

Well, this looks like a hit and run thread. So it's time once again for an Ocelot Rant (you will soon come to know the "O" in ocelot stands for opinionated).

Your research is worthy of applause; you have obviously done your homework. You are well on your way to being an ex-smoker – you are also well on your way to making yourself crazy. Everything you asked about is completely subjective. I smoked for 40 years and I can honestly say I’m not really sure what “throat hit” is.

1) Vaping is not smoking
2) There is currently no e-liquid that tastes like a cigarette
3) You can research all you like, but you still need hands-on experience. A big part of vaping is trial and error, you can’t escape it.

Here’s what you do:

1) Charge the battery
2) Put the battery in the ProVari
3) Grab a Vivi Nova and fill it with juice. It doesn’t matter what resistance the head is.
4) Even though is should say on the head what the resistance is, check it anyway with the ProVari:

Five clicks to Pu (Power Up)
Two clicks to Pd (Power Down)
Two clicks to Po (Power Off)
Two clicks to Cb (Check Battery)
Two clicks to Ao – Stop clicking/take your finger off the button
It will probably read 1.3 then fire and have a different number. That number is the resistance of the device. The menu will turn off after a few seconds.

Add 2 to whatever resistance the device is: if the device is 2, the number to remember is 4; if the device is 2.5, the number to remember is 4.5; 1.5 would be 3.5; 3 would be 5…and so on. This “On the Fly” calculation will produce roughly 8 watts (about the middle of most people's "sweet spot" range).

Back to the menu – click five times to Pu and take your finger off the button. It will fire and read the voltage. What you want is the target number you came up with in the prior step. By the time you read the number, it will be out of the menu. If the voltage was too low, click five times to get back to Pu, then hold the button until it reaches the voltage of the target number.

If the voltage was too low, click 5 times to Pu, 2 times to Pd then hold the button until it reaches the target number.

Now vape, vape, vape, vape. You adjust your voltage via the Pu/Pd functions. Too hot/tastes burned? Lower the voltage. Feels kinda cool and wimpy? Turn it up.

Only you can find out what you like. Close the books, get behind the wheel and drive.

 

[SteamDaddy]

as you see it can get complicated real fast if you ask the right questions.
i don't really try to adhere to wattage. i vary from 8-16 watts. depending on what i'm toking and setup i'm using.
i have 2 provaris now and found out they heat differently.
cartos taste good and clean, but they blow and don't last long if you cook 'em, or run straight VG. which i do.
novas rob the true flavor. but last long being a clearomizer.
start around 4 volts and play with it, going up in volts, untill you find what you like.
buy extra cartos cause you will blow some learning.
tilt a nova not to get a dry hit. tastes burnt.
cartos don't have to tilt.
kanger pro is good, clean, no tilt, easy to fill, pyrex tank.
watch you tube. search (pbusardo) and (igetcha69) best reviewers. watch them.
you can't really hurt anything, so play with your new toys.
i usually toke between 4.6 and 5.3 volts on straight VG. i don't use PG.
you'll learn real fast, what not to do.
but you're in the right place to to get ideas on what to do, and try.
you've already made the biggest investment in the provari.
so it's all peanuts from here on.
don't run a tank dry. clean everything.
top the tank and toke on.