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[KGB7]

Yea your right I mis-stated dim, it goes off, completely dark and same Icon I have for the USB.

Try flicking at your power button a little more if you don't mind, not long enough to fire it just enough to wake it up to see if your Joule counter ever goes up. I can do it almost every time now just by tapping the top of the fire button. Praying it's firmware and not my device being defective.

J Counter goes up by +4.

Makes sense, even a flick, sends power through the unit for a split of a second.

Can you explain to me the point of J counter please?

 

[macis]

Yea your right I mis-stated dim, it goes off, completely dark and same Icon I have for the USB.

Try flicking at your power button a little more if you don't mind, not long enough to fire it just enough to wake it up to see if your Joule counter ever goes up. I can do it almost every time now just by tapping the top of the fire button. Praying it's firmware and not my device being defective.

i have the same problem on my "not yet updated" ml class vlad. after letting the device to sleep, i clicked the fire button in say.. 1/100 seconds, the joule counter will keep jumping, i'll have to clicked it again make it stopped. but when i clicked it in 10/100 seconds, it worked as normal.

i tried my friend's updated ml class, n it's working fine.

 

[HandsomeStan]

Question for those of you that have updated to 2.102, when connected to USB do you have a Lightning Bolt through the Battery Bar?

I'm also noticing what I reported earlier about the Joules counter going up it seems to frequently go up by 230J so I'm thinking it's a Firmware thing or maybe something to do with the onscreen time battery consumption. I've been able to reproduce it in most Preset modes but generally it's easier to just do it in Eco since it's a 5 second screen timeout so less waiting.

The way to reproduce it is simply make a mental note of the Joule counter then let the screen timeout, then quickly hit and release the fire button. If some of you would give that a try and report back if your Joule counter increases I'd greatly appreciate it.

I have the same results as KGB7,

J Counter goes up by +4.

Makes sense, even a flick, sends power through the unit for a split of a second.

Can you explain to me the point of J counter please?

Mine does exactly the same, just tapping the button to "wake it up" increases the joule meter by 4. As you said this will be correct as the ML has no delay in firing.

On another note, my cheapo skin turned up from Ebay, ill get some pics up later. It's only temporary till the official ones are stocked but will do the job for now.

Keith at http://www.cremedevape.com/epages/yxve46fvrnud.mobile/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/yxve46fvrnud said they will have the official ones in very soon.

 

[Vlad1]

J Counter goes up by +4.

Makes sense, even a flick, sends power through the unit for a split of a second.

Can you explain to me the point of J counter please?

Well when mine goes up it's doing it after I quickly depress the button and frequently goes up by 230J exactly.

I can tell you how I use the J counter, others may have other uses. Mostly I use it to see how well a battery performs to others. For example last year sometime I purchased some new 25R's and if I recall correctly I was getting around 17.5k Joules out of them, Compared to some VTC5's I had that were almost a year old and I was getting around 19k - 20k Joules. So even though the 25R's were new they weren't as good as the VTC5's.

 

[Vlad1]

i have the same problem on my "not yet updated" ml class vlad. after letting the device to sleep, i clicked the fire button in say.. 1/100 seconds, the joule counter will keep jumping, i'll have to clicked it again make it stopped. but when i clicked it in 10/100 seconds, it worked as normal.

i tried my friend's updated ml class, n it's working fine.

Well at least I'm not the only one then. Have you let the counter go and attempt to see if it stops and if so what the increase in Joules were? Mine is updated so not exactly same comparison but it makes me wonder.

 

[HandsomeStan]

Well when mine goes up it's doing it after I quickly depress the button and frequently goes up by 230J exactly.

I can tell you how I use the J counter, others may have other uses. Mostly I use it to see how well a battery performs to others. For example last year sometime I purchased some new 25R's and if I recall correctly I was getting around 17.5k Joules out of them, Compared to some VTC5's I had that were almost a year old and I was getting around 19k - 20k Joules. So even though the 25R's were new they weren't as good as the VTC5's.

Yeah that doesn't sound right mate, is there any way to reinstall the firmware see if that sorts it out?

Great idea for giving the joule counter a purpose, I'm going to nick your idea and put my various batteries to the test!

 

[macis]

Well at least I'm not the only one then. Have you let the counter go and attempt to see if it stops and if so what the increase in Joules were? Mine is updated so not exactly same comparison but it makes me wonder.

the joule counter will stopped at 30secs mark, but the screen will not go to sleep unless i clicked the fire button again.

 

[HandsomeStan]

Well at least I'm not the only one then. Have you let the counter go and attempt to see if it stops and if so what the increase in Joules were? Mine is updated so not exactly same comparison but it makes me wonder.

Haha right well this is interesting, set on M1 which I have at 23 Watts in eco mode in goes up by 4 if I quickly tap the button.

This got me thinking, if the Watts are higher would it go up by more than 4. Tried it on M5 (default 40 watts) and it done exactly as you describe, joules keep climbing, definitely a software glitch mate

 

[Vlad1]

Yeah that doesn't sound right mate, is there any way to reinstall the firmware see if that sorts it out?

Great idea for giving the joule counter a purpose, I'm going to nick your idea and put my various batteries to the test!

Already reloaded the firmware, that was the first thing I attempted.

 

[Vlad1]

the joule counter will stopped at 30secs mark, but the screen will not go to sleep unless i clicked the fire button again.

Hmm, well I just timed mine and it only goes for about 10sec but ups the joules by 230J and yea same thing screen doesn't go out when it does it.

 

[KGB7]

Well when mine goes up it's doing it after I quickly depress the button and frequently goes up by 230J exactly.

I can tell you how I use the J counter, others may have other uses. Mostly I use it to see how well a battery performs to others. For example last year sometime I purchased some new 25R's and if I recall correctly I was getting around 17.5k Joules out of them, Compared to some VTC5's I had that were almost a year old and I was getting around 19k - 20k Joules. So even though the 25R's were new they weren't as good as the VTC5's.

Just swapped out batteries and J counter still jumps up only by 4J.

Aww... that makes sense. Its like a battery life counter. Very useful if i vape at same wattage through the day. Very cool.

Side note;
Im using more juice while chain vaping with ML at 20W vs Sig100 plus at 30w. The Voltage is also lower by V0.12 on ML at 30w.


Edit.
Ok, my unit just had same "hiccup" where J# were going up none stop after hitting fire button for a split of a second. Only thing that stopped it is to hit fire button again.

Now they are jumping by 9J. Could be because its a freshly charged battery.

 

[HandsomeStan]

Haha right well this is interesting, set on M1 which I have at 23 Watts in eco mode in goes up by 4 if I quickly tap the button.

This got me thinking, if the Watts are higher would it go up by more than 4. Tried it on M5 (default 40 watts) and it done exactly as you describe, joules keep climbing, definitely a software glitch mate

UPDATE: staying at 23 Watts in eco mode, +4 joules every time, if I change that to standard or powerful, still at 23 Watts the joules just keep climbing like Vlad1 describes. I'm not worrying about it, sure it will be fixed in a firmware update.

 

[Vlad1]

Alright at least we have a few others that are seeing it in one fashion or another now so I'm not as concerned my device is defective. Need to report to Yihi so they can fix it. Easy workaround is don't hit the fire button for a split second.

 

[macis]

Alright at least we have a few others that are seeing it in one fashion or another now so I'm not as concerned my device is defective. Need to report to Yihi so they can fix it. Easy workaround is don't hit the fire button for a split second.

must be a bug. however here's something i just noticed on my ml class ytd while trying to switched atty using the configuration mode.

i tried setting the "configuration #" thru the device itself, C1 for titanium mode, C2 for power mode, C3 for ni200 mode. i loaded a titanium coil atty on the device n use "C1" n it vapes fine, but when i switched to a kanthal coil atty n adjust it to "C2", my device couldn't fire the tank at all. i have to adjust my device to "C3" n fire the kanthal coil on ni200 mode to let it detect the atty, before i could adjust it back to "C1" for it fire properly again.

it only happens when i switched from ti1 coil atty to kanthal coil atty, i have no problem switching from the other way round.

sorry for my for my poor english.

 

[Vlad1]

UPDATE: staying at 23 Watts in eco mode, +4 joules every time, if I change that to standard or powerful, still at 23 Watts the joules just keep climbing like Vlad1 describes. I'm not worrying about it, sure it will be fixed in a firmware update.

I should have stated I'm running in Temp mode with a .1Ω Ni200 coil at 23J and 450F. I haven't ran it in power mode at all so don't really know how much difference in behavior there is between modes.

 

[macis]

I should have stated I'm running in Temp mode with a .1Ω Ni200 coil at 23J and 450F. I haven't ran it in power mode at all so don't really know how much difference in behavior there is between modes.

it's the same on power mode.

 

[KGB7]

Im in power mode using Kanthal coil. Im not worried about J counter, as long as ML works in TC mode with 200 feet of SS430 wire i have ordered.

Ooookkkk. Just went outside to let my dog pee, when i came back, the unit set it self from 20w to 30w all on its own. Anyone know the number to Ghostbusters??

Reflashing firmware now.

 

[Vlad1]

must be a bug. however here's something i just noticed on my ml class ytd while trying to switched atty using the configuration mode.

i tried setting the "configuration #" thru the device itself, C1 for titanium mode, C2 for ti1 mode, C3 for ni200 mode. i loaded a titanium coil atty on the device n use "C1" n it vapes fine, but when i switched to a kanthal coil atty n adjust it to "C2", my device couldn't fire the tank at all. i have to adjust my device to "C3" n fire the kanthal coil on ni200 mode to let it detect the atty, before i could adjust it back to "C1" for it fire properly again.

it only happens when i switched from ti1 coil atty to kanthal coil atty, i have no problem switching from the other way round.

sorry for my for my poor english.

Trying to get this clear in my head.

Your configuration was:
C1: Ti
C2: Ti
C3: Ni200

Ti atty on C1 vapes fine.
Kanthal on C2 Device wouldn't fire? Did you change from Temp to Power mode in the menu under "Power&Joule" or is that what your saying you couldn't do?

 

[macis]

Trying to get this clear in my head.

Your configuration was:
C1: Ti
C2: Ti
C3: Ni200

Ti atty on C1 vapes fine.
Kanthal on C2 Device wouldn't fire? Did you change from Temp to Power mode in the menu under "Power&Joule" or is that what your saying you couldn't do?

sorry typo lol. i'll edit it on my o.post.

C1: Ti1
C2: Power
C3: Ni200

 

[Vlad1]

sorry typo lol. i'll edit it on my o.post.

C1: Ti1
C2: Power
C3: Ni200

I see so you were just changing to C2: with a kanthal coil and it wouldn't fire it? Did it detect the correct resistance when you tried firing it while in C2? I haven't connected anything up in power mode but I probably will later today. But for now it's pretty late here so I'm off to bed.