NEW YIHI SX MINI ML CLASS!

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Marc411

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To be fair, I'm sure you would updated your S class to 75W if yihi had ever updated the firmware.

I'm not sure I would need it Dan. Running dual Claptons in my Velocity I'm running it right around 50W and it's a stellar vape. I don't believe that I have ever been over 50W and really don't like a hot vape.

That being said I might just for the hell of it but right now my 60W is working out perfectly..... for me. Others may want more and I can't argue that point because that is entirely their gig!

And dannyben, more circles or your forgot to read the part about them building V1 chips still.

Read it all bud.

I was told the V1 & V2 PCB boards are basically identical, with a firmware upgrade for a new “computer control” feature which sounded like some kind of enhanced presets.

Sounds improved....on wait would that be an enhancement..... it couldn't be ..... nah!
 
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I'm not sure I would need it Dan. Running dual Claptons in my Velocity I'm running it right around 50W and it's a stellar vape. I don't believe that I have ever been over 50W and really don't like a hot vape.

That being said I might just for the hell of it but right now my 60W is working out perfectly..... for me. Others may want more and I can't argue that point because that is entirely their gig!
I use my m class every day, and a good majority of the time I use it in normal power mode. I regularly go over 60w, so I am thankful for that update on my m class. That being said, using the mod at 75W and powerfu+ will render a battery useless in about an hour for me, haha. The voltage drop on it is crazy, and I don't like using it that high wattage with the battery drained below around 3.8v. It's definitely pushing the limits of a single 18650. I don't like a hot vape either, but with different coils, and airflow, I've used my m class up to 120w with the extension tube, and still not a hot vape.

But to each their own, I'm not trying to argue by no means, or imply everyone needs 75w, its just nice to have the option. If I had the s class I would feel a bit burned by that.
 

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I'm not sure I would need it Dan. Running dual Claptons in my Velocity I'm running it right around 50W and it's a stellar vape. I don't believe that I have ever been over 50W and really don't like a hot vape.

That being said I might just for the hell of it but right now my 60W is working out perfectly..... for me. Others may want more and I can't argue that point because that is entirely their gig!

And dannyben, more circles or your forgot to read the part about them building V1 chips still.

Read it all bud.

Thats because they STILL HAVE v1 chips. Are they just supposed to throw them out? But once their supply is gone, so will their mod.

Look... it's silly to argue with you. I already told you this is directly from yihi. You don't want to believe me, then fine, don't. Doesn't change my life. My only point of the post was to inform potential buyers of what really to expect on their $200 investment. Just read some of the posts here. One even copies screen shots directly from a skype conversation showing that yihi said support was finished. chip was discontinued. He later removed the conversation at the yihi reps request.

So no.... I'm not going to post my proof or quotes from them. It is not only unethical to do so, but also against ECF rules.
 

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I'm not trying to argue by no means, or imply everyone needs 75w, its just nice to have the option. If I had the s class I would feel a bit burned by that.

ThunderDan - excellent because I really didn't take it that way. It seemed like your opinion which I respect. Everyone has there style and both of us found our sweet spot. The two S class I own are perfect for me and built tough. I own an M class and a Renegade X with a J chip that goes to 75w (haven't used it) and those are also solid. I hope they go the distance because I'll hold on to them for a long time. I build my own coils and DIY my juice so for me, if regs go in place and they last the way I think (or hope) they will I'll be vaping happy for a long time. And for what it's worth, I also own three DNA 40's. One of my VF still has a screen glitch after being sent back a couple times. Still works and I pretend the screen is just abstract art. ;)

Dannyben, you are correct I don't believe you. But it was fun while it lasted.
 
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    I really get a kick out of some of these posts - its almost like some folks have never owned a consumer product - ever. Everything from Cars, Motorcycles, TV's, music and video players, computers, tablets and cell phones (you name it) have a product life cycle. Some products may get a few 'bug fixes' before or after the next product comes out however most products don't.

    If it were not for recycling I'd have a box plumb full of cell phones that the OEM or wireless carrier did not offer a single update for - want the newfangled feature? Buy a NEW ONE. (I have a bunch of tablets and PDA's that were never updated ether)

    I recall one nice chap telling me that I should NOT use the USB port for charging my SX as it might break it and make it useless for updating. Gee - never even thought of 'updating' a disposable product. While the battery in mine has been in there almost since the day I bought it I did finally find a Windows box to upload the Ti firmware. (funny I'm currently running an Ni tank on it - obviously 'upgrade ability' was not a selling point for me)

    Back on topic - while the "ML Class" sounds interesting I think some of the other chips have more to offer. I'm currently eyeballing an "Apollo" box mod. ~$100, TCR adjustment and single 18650 battery.

    While I currently like and use my two YiHi chipped mods daily, I'm in no shape or form a 'fanboy' or feel the need to have any (IMHO silly) 'brand loyalty'.

    Just give me the best bang for the bucks.
     

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    Dannyben, you are correct I don't believe you. But it was fun while it lasted.

    LOL. And I'm having even more fun knowing my post is accurate and picturing you when you verify and see each thing i said is true.

    I really get a kick out of some of these posts - its almost like some folks have never owned a consumer product - ever. Everything from Cars, Motorcycles, TV's, music and video players, computers, tablets and cell phones (you name it) have a product life cycle. Some products may get a few 'bug fixes' before or after the next product comes out however most products don't.

    If it were not for recycling I'd have a box plumb full of cell phones that the OEM or wireless carrier did not offer a single update for - want the newfangled feature? Buy a NEW ONE. (I have a bunch of tablets and PDA's that were never updated ether)

    I recall one nice chap telling me that I should NOT use the USB port for charging my SX as it might break it and make it useless for updating. Gee - never even thought of 'updating' a disposable product. While the battery in mine has been in there almost since the day I bought it I did finally find a Windows box to upload the Ti firmware. (funny I'm currently running an Ni tank on it - obviously 'upgrade ability' was not a selling point for me)

    Back on topic - while the "ML Class" sounds interesting I think some of the other chips have more to offer. I'm currently eyeballing an "Apollo" box mod. ~$100, TCR adjustment and single 18650 battery.

    While I currently like and use my two YiHi chipped mods daily, I'm in no shape or form a 'fanboy' or feel the need to have any (IMHO silly) 'brand loyalty'.

    Just give me the best bang for the bucks.

    Except for the fact that phones, TV's, cars etc.... "usually are only updated once a year and regularly. Here You received one month on the S, 5 months on the M, and what appears to be 2 months on the not even released ML. When you buy a phone, they generally continue to update the OS for a minimum of 2 years after discontinuation.

    Yes, vaping and mods are changing rapidly. No one expects their new purchase to be state of the art for even a year. But the issue here is the PROMISE and LIST as a FEATURE firmware updates. Dont expect that to be forever, but as i stated none once they introduce a new mod and they clearly have the marketing plan to abandon support so that you will buy their new device.

    I'm not telling anyone not to buy a ML. Never said yihi doesnt make great chips. Just that they should NOT advertise a feature of upgradability if they have done what they have in their past 2 devices. If they were a US company there'd be a class action suit against them. And thats why they won't get my $200. But, it's your $200 and your choice if you want to shell out that money for a mod that will have a life span of 1 to 5 months with zero support afterwards. People should be aware that. Aware that support ends as soon as something new is introduced. Aware that the current v1 (M class) is discontinued and not expect any features to be added, just as the 75W or anything else was never added to the people who paid $190 for their S class. Aware that other companies current mods that utilize this chip are also effected. And there are no plans to offer the old or new chip to ANY dealer or mod manufacturer.

    Of course, yihi might wake up one day and realize what they are doing and do a complete about face. But as long as people fall for this marketing tactic and send them their $200 every few months for a new feature or two why would they give it to you for free -- even if they promised it to you to buy the mod in the first place. I guess when you own other companies like Sigelei and Pioneer 4 You it doesn't matter as much if one fails.
     
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    From what I've heard, the SX Mini M-class is no longer being made, so whatever's left in inventory is what one can buy. I've not heard that the SX350j original board has been discontinued, but that could be the case. For example, if they have a significant inventory of the original chip they need to sell, that could be why the sx350j-V2 board is currently not available to buyers. If so, that would mean they want to exhaust the current inventory of the original board before making the sx350j-V2 available to buyers.
     
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    My only point of the post was to inform potential buyers of what really to expect on their $200 investment.
    The ML class will be released with the same bunch of lies of how it supports future firmware updates and after 6 months support for it will be completely dropped. [removed]. These frauds will never see another penny from me as long as I live.
     
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    The ML class will be released with the same bunch of lies of how it supports future firmware updates and after 6 months support for it will be completely dropped. [Removed]. These frauds will never see another penny from me as long as I live.
    yup. it's really [removed] sad how yihi keeps on releasing their own mods with UPGRADABLE FIRMWARE but in the end you are lucky if there is even one. man the only time a yihi chip gets updated is in third party mods.
     
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    Does the m class not work then ?, has there been no upgraded firmware released for it since it's release ?. If the answer to those two questions is no then let's all boycott yihi products for blatent false advertising. If the answer to both is yes then they have done what they said just not to the satisfaction of some and that's not really yihi's problem, I don't have a yihi mod yet so I'm not a blind fanboy it just seems lately a few vapers expect a lot. Yes the sx mini is not a cheap mod but it isn't highly expensive either you can pay a hell of a lot more and get a lot less hell some mechs still go for over £200. Buy the mod that has the features you want right off the shelf not the mod that might have them sometime in the future and you'll be a happier person and just because something becomes the next great fad months after you've bought something doesn't mean any company making any product has a duty to accommodate it.

    Maybe I'm just cranky today or maybe even one of these sheep I see reference too but to me it is common sense and how I've made my purchases and I'm a happy vaper on kit most would class as cheap crap.
     

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    Except for the fact that phones, TV's, cars etc.... "usually are only updated once a year and regularly. Here You received one month on the S, 5 months on the M, and what appears to be 2 months on the not even released ML. When you buy a phone, they generally continue to update the OS for a minimum of 2 years after discontinuation.

    I'm sorry but who exactly is "they" ???? There are more cell phone models and OEM's which DON'T update their installed base OS then there are that do. Buy a Google (Nexis) or Apple phone and you might get updates, anything else - all bets are off.

    I've owned countless electronic devices over the years that were NEVER updated. (cell phones included, the ONLY cell phone that I've owned that was ever updated is an iPhone).

    Personally I'll base my future purchasing decision on how well any given devices feature set fits my needs as well along with the devices "bang for the buck" compared to other devices with similar features.

    From what I've seen so far the YiHi SX350ML is a very weak answer to the DNA200 and other offerings available on the market TODAY.

    While I'm planning on picking up another APV before the end of the year YiHi better step up their game (feature set, price/performance) otherwise their offerings may not be considered.
     

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    Anyway, I've removed snippets of my chat with the YIHI rep as private correspondences are not allowed on ECF and YiHi also contacted me to have them removed.

    So what we hear now even from so called "accurate" sources are still not finalized. Especially so for their year end release.

    But what i know for sure is that the ML class looks pretty good and for $200, its a steal.
     
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    Gee, I have a bunch of DNA30s and 40s that never had any upgrades. But, a bunch of people are upset their sx minis didn't have more? They're still by far the best mods I own.
    Exactly. I still use my S Class daily. Hell, I'm using it right now. I don't really understand the sudden backlash against YiHi because they dare to release a new mod. Newsflash, no one's being forced to buy it. You don't have to buy every new mod that comes out, it's perfectly alright to use the mods you currently own and be content. If you want a true upgrade, wait for the mod scheduled to be released at the end of the year.
     

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    Some vapers have become very entitled expecting every whim to be catered for and for no cost and on mods made and sold before some things became the "next great thing" and now evolv have released the dna200 that also seems to have prompted this recent backlash against yihi. To be honest I'm spending less and less time on vaping forums because there seems to be a lot of pointlessness these days and if you don't join one of the in groups be that yihi, evolv or some wire fan group you don't know anything and your damned if you do and damned if you don't.
     

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