New York City Council AGAIN proposes banning e-cigarette flavors, requiring tobacco licensing, raising age from 18 to 21

[BuGlen]

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The difference now is that WE ARE a big community all over the world that is vaping.
This means power. A lot of politics they ll consider going against us for their carrier .
Remember the world I told you and you ll see them in the future.

Politics will be in our side..

Not arguing your point, but just clarifying one detail. We (the vaping community) are not that big in comparison to opposition, based both on monetary interest and population size. This is why, as a small community, we have to be very vocal and vigilant in our efforts to educate educate the general population and our elected officials. We need every voice we can get to speak the truth, speak it often, and speak it clearly.

 

[skoony]

on the federal level ecigs are concidered tobacco products in as much as when oboma care kicks in
there will be a 50% surcharge if you smoke cigs or ecigs nomatter who you are insured by.
this is why we are seeing so many strange bedfellows in all this debate.
its a big fight over the money.
the insurence revenue and the tax revenue and who will get what.
regards
mike

 

[Lisa Belle]

We are Americans we have a voice and a vote.... Let's not let TRENDY California send vapers back to smoking in shame!!! http://www.change.org/petitions/sb-648-california-e-cigarette-usage-ban-stop-the-california-e-cigarette-usage-ban-sb-648-3

 

[White Rabbit]

on the federal level ecigs are concidered tobacco products in as much as when oboma care kicks in
there will be a 50% surcharge if you smoke cigs or ecigs nomatter who you are insured by.
this is why we are seeing so many strange bedfellows in all this debate.
its a big fight over the money.
the insurence revenue and the tax revenue and who will get what.
regards mike

Well, my doctor knows that I use a PV and put me down as a non-smoker. My insurance company currently has agreed with her. I am almost down to NO NIC and mix several juices myself with pure VG and flavor. I just can't conceive of being called a "tobacco user" if I am not using ANY nicotine, and I will fight that if required to.

Wabbit

 

[DC2]

Not arguing your point, but just clarifying one detail. We (the vaping community) are not that big in comparison to opposition, based both on monetary interest and population size. This is why, as a small community, we have to be very vocal and vigilant in our efforts to educate educate the general population and our elected officials. We need every voice we can get to speak the truth, speak it often, and speak it clearly.

I have a feeling we already outnumber the hardcore ANTZ by a very wide margin.
The problem is that the ANTZ agenda is supported to some extent by a very large percentage of an ignorant and brainwashed population.

If this is true, the most important thing we can do is un-brainwash the ignorant masses through education.
And since the mainstream media shows few signs of wanting to assist us in this effort, it is up to each and every one of us to make it happen.

If any vaper has friends, family, or even co-workers that remain brainwashed, then they still have work to do.

 

[firechick]

Back to ecig in NYC, if I recall he is in office until 2014, that is if he does not extend the term limits again.

Another sad fact here in NY. There is growing sentiment in the west of the state to separate from Albany and NYC. You can keep Mr. Bloomberg, Mr. Cuomo and many of the others who tax, ban, and dictate. We are better off without "leaders" like them.