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  1. Paul Montreal

    Paul Montreal Full Member

    Hi all,
    I am looking to get my first e-cig and of course I need help picking the right one for me. I have read many posts and I think I want an APV. I have looked at a couple and just want to see if anything new has come out since then. I want to try to keep everything under $200 CAD. I will need everything as I have bupkis. I consider myself as tech savvy and I am not concerned about the learning curve that is suggested in other posts. I just want to get the best bang for my buck. I live in Canada if that helps you recommend.

    Thanks for reading,
  2. Intervap

    Intervap Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 21, 2013
    Port Huron, Mi
    The Innokin SVD was my first SVD. The kit comes with two iClear 30s. Its a really great mod and the only huge downside I can see is its is large. If you put an 18650 in there its going to be very very long.
    The MVP is another great one I like. However, if you have $200 to spend I would get a Provari and a bottom fed clearo.
    Of course, with any kit, batteries and a charger will not be included.
  3. Vapoor eyes er

    Vapoor eyes er ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2011
    Toronto, Ont.
    Hi Paul and welcome to ECF. All set for Winter?
    My recommendations:
    Innokin iTaste MVP V2.0 - 101 Vape contains everything
    Needs batts+ charger:
    Flat Top
    Sigelei ZMAX V3- Flat top - 101 Vape
    Round Top
    Sigelei ZMAX V3- Round top - 101 Vape

    Keep your eye on Vapor Joes - Daily Vaping Deals Realize though if ordering from FasTech it may take awhile and they're also having problems with China Post sending gear back to Sender.
    After 5 posts wait 1 hr for the ECF servers to reset and

    MVP 2 Review:

  4. Vapoor eyes er

    Vapoor eyes er ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2011
    Toronto, Ont.
  5. Vapoor eyes er

    Vapoor eyes er ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2011
    Toronto, Ont.
    And then of course there's the Provari- with Tube , batteries and charger will run you about $250+... Tube, 4 batts+ charger.

  6. State O' Flux

    State O' Flux Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 17, 2013
    Hi Paul and welcome to the asylum. ;-)

    The above suggestions are all quite good. It's hard to go wrong with any of the Innokin iTaste APVs or iClear atomizers... short of more high end, higher power devices like the NexGen Futura, SM Semovar (Nivel chip) and Fluid Cyborg - or any of the other DNA20 APVs, Innokin products are about as cutting edge as you can get in the medium price range.
    Remember that with most APVs, you'll need to allow cash for atomizers, batteries and chargers that you'll need.

    One not mentioned is the Innokin iTaste VTR. I don't care much for the weight of it, but many find it "comforting" - and the side mount atomizer "enclosure" and "power wheel" are fun features... so perhaps another one to consider.

    Have fun!
  7. meanckz

    meanckz Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Sep 18, 2013
    Greer, SC
  8. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 4, 2013
    Scranton, Pa USA
    As stated above, the MVP 2 comes with everything you need to get started for about $50.00 shipped. That leaves plenty of money for extra tanks (you'll want to get some glass ones for the plastic tank cracking juices) and juice. I have one and absolutely love it.
  9. Vapoor eyes er

    Vapoor eyes er ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2011
    Toronto, Ont.
    In regards to VaporJoes there was a Vendor in Guelph that was selling the MVP 2 for $32.50+ $10 delivery BUT that sale's closed.
  10. DetraMental

    DetraMental Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Mar 31, 2013
    United States
    The MVP 2 is a nice mod with plenty of features to play with. I've had mine about a month and am liking it more and more each passing day. It's 2600mAh internal battery has a great life to it 2-3 days at a time before needing a charge.
  11. Paul Montreal

    Paul Montreal Full Member

    This has been very helpful. Any advice on which company's/web sites to avoid? e-juice makers? Looks like vapor joe looks legit.
  12. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    I won't say which to avoid, but trusted vendors are AltSmoke, Discount Vapors, and My Vapor Store.

    Recommending e-juice makers is the toughest, as taste is so subjective from one person to the next. I will say that AltSmoke has over 100 flavors from several e-liquid manufacturers. I know, that doesn't really help you.

    Having said that, my favorite e-liquid vendor is Dripeez should you like fruit flavors. Their Golden Apple is one of my all time favorites; I use it solo and also add either some Dripeez Cinnamon or Rum to change things up.
  13. backitdown

    backitdown Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 7, 2013
    On a boat in So.CA
  14. Vapoor eyes er

    Vapoor eyes er ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2011
    Toronto, Ont.
    VJ is very legit and I don't post links/ companies that aren't on the up and up. Get 5 posts and ask for the Cdn Vendors List as per my link. In general is located in Onatrio, inexpensive and has the latest gear. Also ECF listed/ verified which means to stay listed they must operate under a strict code of prices though. Hardware okay to import but juices a no no. Canvape has the MVP 2 for $59.00 but it includes 2 clearomizers. Problem is the minute you buy someone comes out with a sale :facepalm:
    Last week ordered 4 X MVP 2 and 3 X Zmax for Christmas from One last point- make absolute sure you buy a quality charger and batteries. $40 is a very good price IMO.
  15. Paul Montreal

    Paul Montreal Full Member

    Any thoughts on what ohm I should get? I will order the MVP 2 that you listed for 60. can you think of anything else i should get? Also, I am guessing that I can not get juice with nicotine here in Canada. I will need to make a couple of more posts before I can hopefully get a supplier list that might be able to help out. Thanks again for all of your help.
  16. madqatter

    madqatter Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 14, 2013
    *jealous* :)
  17. Vapoor eyes er

    Vapoor eyes er ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2011
    Toronto, Ont.
    You're welcome. Generally with an APV the ohms that offers the widest range of use is 2.8- 3.0 ohms. Realize also the iClears and most other clearomizers are rebuildable. The heads (wick+ coil) can be easily (20 secs) and inexpensively replaced thereby reusing the tank itself. Yes there's lots of nic juice in Canada. Actually Electric Cigarettes | E Cigarettes Canada | Buy Electronic Cigarettes sells the MVP 2 for $69.00- would save on delivery if picked up located at:
    439 Boul Sir Wilfrid Laurier
    Mont Saint Hilaire, Quebec
    Canada J3H 3P2

    Retail Store Address:

    1613 St Denis
    Montreal, Quebec
    H2X 3K3

    Their juices are highly regarded and so are

    Buy samples to begin with. Also a good idea to buy a 510 atomizer to test new juices as some will taste awful and atomizers are very easy to clean:
    Atomizer/ Atty- an element in a metal tube on to which 3-4 drops of juice is dripped- usually used for testing new juices because Attys are easy to clean.
    My story:
    Best to buy samples to find your likes and dislikes. When I first began vaping I bought 30 wide ranging samples. Out of those 30 I liked 10. Immediately ordered another 20 and out of those I liked 10…so out 50 different flavors I enjoyed 20. Months later I tried those 30 samples that I disliked and enjoyed all but one. Whether it was because my tastes had changed or they needed steeping I don’t know. Realize also "same name" juices will vary greatly in taste from vendor to vendor as they all have diff recipes and order ingredients from diff Suppliers.

  18. Paul Montreal

    Paul Montreal Full Member

    That is perfect! The store is only a 15 minute bus ride. I will try the samples like you suggested. You guys have been a great help. Thanks one more time I really appreciate it.
  19. Vapoor eyes er

    Vapoor eyes er ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2011
    Toronto, Ont.
    Great :thumbs: I was hoping it was close by. Sometimes better to pay a lil' extra if the Vendor is close in case of issues. Also a really good idea to have an emergency vendor close by. There are 2 diff iClears- iClear 16 and iClear 30- some like the 30 better cuz it has lottsa wicks. Also while you're in the store sample some juices and then buy.
    Best of Luck.
  20. Paul Montreal

    Paul Montreal Full Member

    Follow up post.

    I went and bought my MVP 2 kit today (Blue). It came with the iClear 30. I also bought a V3 Nova to go with it. I got 5x30ml juices to go with it. I am very happy. The guys at the shop were helpful. It also helped a lot going in with a idea of what I want. I looked at the iTaste 134...WOW that's a beast! and maybe my next purchases. The MVP Feels very solid and durable. No buyers remorse for me. Cheers
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