fail #2 fail#3fail#4fail#5 hoping after one of them steeps for a few days maybe a few months at least one will be vapeable. think im going to try some fruity recipes. i tried a fruit punch at the local shop tonight after my 5 failed attempts at and had nothing vapeable. i had to run and get some more swagger. im not sure whos ffruit punch it was but does anyone have a good recipe that dont have to be steeped.
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okj lets #1 was 65vg35pg 24 mg nic all tfa flavors m type tobacco at 2% caramel @ 6% vanilla delux @2%. taste like rubbing alcahol or something. the next was something the wife wanted its the wors thing i have ever tasted. i would say it taste like sh_t but its worse than that. its 69vg 31pg 24mg nic 4% caramel 2% coffe kona. 3 was 24mg nic 55vg 45 pg ry4 15% caramel 5%. next was 63vg37pg 24 nic ry4@8% french vanilla delux @2% toasted almond@2%. next one was just m type at 70 30 vg pg and started at 5% went all the way to 20% its horrible at all levels lol. maybe after steeping for a while some will be vapeable. i done the heating in hot water thing 4 times with each one.
Okay, sorry if I get this wrong, it's hard to see exactly what you're using.
Mix 1 - M-type tobacco / caramel / vanilla - tastes like rubbing alcohol.
I think that you're adding too much at once. Start with individual flavorings, at low %'s, and work other flavors into the blend, slowly. I've read that the M-type takes a while before it becomes okay to vape. In my opinion, not a good beginner flavoring.
Mix 2 - Caramel / Kona Coffee - tastes like doo doo - I have read that the Kona coffee, or most coffees for the matter speaking, are extremely potent, and should be used very lightly. I am seeing a trend with these blends, but let's move on to the next to see for sure.
Mix 3 - Caramel - nothing specified on this - Are you seeing a trend here? Caramel is in almost everyone of these blends. Could it be that you just don't like the caramel from TFA?
Mix 4 - French Vanilla / Toasted almond - nothing specified - I cannot speak for this with experience, only that I don't know if toasted almond sounds all that great to me, but that's just me.
Mix 5 - M-type alone - I read that people use this tobacco at very low %'s, and 20% is extreme for tobaccos, as far as I have experienced.
What I see here is a few things. You're diving into relatively complex recipes without first trying each flavor individually to get a feel for each one. Whenever I get new flavorings in, I always try to mix them alone, at very low %'s, and then proceed to carefully add additional ingredients based off of previous experiences, and what I think would go good with them. If I do jump into a recipe without knowing what the ingredient tastes like, I only use 1 drop of each ingredient, taste it, and adjust to my liking.
As for the M-type, that's a difficult flavoring, and as mentioned, very potent. Give it some time, and try something else (as you had mentioned earlier in this thread). Fruit flavors are relatively simple, but some of them aren't all that great. What type of fruits do you like?
If you're looking for real easy, shake and vape flavorings, might I suggest the following TFA flavorings?
-Blueberry extra
-Double Ry4
-Apple Pie
-Black Honey Tobacco (though some might argue that steeping is required, I do not believe it to be so)
-Dragon fruit (tastes like sugar fruit runts to me)
Are just some to name.
Mix 1 - M-type tobacco / caramel / vanilla - tastes like rubbing alcohol.
I think that you're adding too much at once. Start with individual flavorings, at low %'s, and work other flavors into the blend, slowly. I've read that the M-type takes a while before it becomes okay to vape. In my opinion, not a good beginner flavoring.
Mix 2 - Caramel / Kona Coffee - tastes like doo doo - I have read that the Kona coffee, or most coffees for the matter speaking, are extremely potent, and should be used very lightly. I am seeing a trend with these blends, but let's move on to the next to see for sure.
Mix 3 - Caramel - nothing specified on this - Are you seeing a trend here? Caramel is in almost everyone of these blends. Could it be that you just don't like the caramel from TFA?
Mix 4 - French Vanilla / Toasted almond - nothing specified - I cannot speak for this with experience, only that I don't know if toasted almond sounds all that great to me, but that's just me.
Mix 5 - M-type alone - I read that people use this tobacco at very low %'s, and 20% is extreme for tobaccos, as far as I have experienced.
What I see here is a few things. You're diving into relatively complex recipes without first trying each flavor individually to get a feel for each one. Whenever I get new flavorings in, I always try to mix them alone, at very low %'s, and then proceed to carefully add additional ingredients based off of previous experiences, and what I think would go good with them. If I do jump into a recipe without knowing what the ingredient tastes like, I only use 1 drop of each ingredient, taste it, and adjust to my liking.
As for the M-type, that's a difficult flavoring, and as mentioned, very potent. Give it some time, and try something else (as you had mentioned earlier in this thread). Fruit flavors are relatively simple, but some of them aren't all that great. What type of fruits do you like?
If you're looking for real easy, shake and vape flavorings, might I suggest the following TFA flavorings?
-Blueberry extra
-Double Ry4
-Apple Pie
-Black Honey Tobacco (though some might argue that steeping is required, I do not believe it to be so)
-Dragon fruit (tastes like sugar fruit runts to me)
Are just some to name.
Remember how I said you should try each flavor individually first without the nic to see if you like it? You might want to try that before making blends. Also tobacco from tfa need a good week to steep and on the kona coffee it might need a sweetener and lower percentage yet as I've heard it was strong.
lol yes i remember that shilo i am getting ready to mix a couple single flavors. ty levitis im getting ready to try black honey what percent would you try it at for shake and vape. man that term reminds me of all the .... heads around here.
this nic juice that i have kinda has a muddy alcahol smell to it will that go away if i let them steep for a while. it seems the flavors i mixed earlier are starting to have a different scent to them.
M Type is absoloutly horrid....Until it's steeped.
I made a 10ml with one drop M type in it and for 4 days my kitchen (where I steeped the bottle) stunk. 2 Weeks steep, still overpowering. Tried it today at 30 days steeped and it's finally getting good. Will let it go another week.
I made a 10ml with one drop M type in it and for 4 days my kitchen (where I steeped the bottle) stunk. 2 Weeks steep, still overpowering. Tried it today at 30 days steeped and it's finally getting good. Will let it go another week.
I personally find it to be good at 3 drops per 5mls. But, I recommend 1 drop per 5mls, taste, then add additional drops until you're satisfied.
Where did you get your nic-base from?
Where did you get your nic-base from?
from the one stop diy shop. i made black honey at 5% its actually vapeable now. dosnt have a lot of flavor yet i couldnt resist tho i had to add 1 drop carmel lol. going to let it set till in the morning and try it again.
You and that caramel, lol.
I'm actually vaping on some Capella caramel right now. Tasty stuff.
Also, something else to try, add ~5-10% French Vanilla to that Black Honey blend. Pretty tasty itself.
I'm actually vaping on some Capella caramel right now. Tasty stuff.
Also, something else to try, add ~5-10% French Vanilla to that Black Honey blend. Pretty tasty itself.
ahh will make a batch of that to right now i love french vanilla and carmel lol
how would this sound 45/55 pg/vg
24mg nic
black honey5%
french vanilla 10%
caramel 2%
im remembering how to use a comp to where people can make out what im trying to type lol.
24mg nic
black honey5%
french vanilla 10%
caramel 2%
im remembering how to use a comp to where people can make out what im trying to type lol.
Yes, give it a shot. Personally, I'd try it without the caramel, but only at first. Add one drop of caramel after initial test (if desired), then another if it's not strong enough.
Try it right away!
If it's good enough to vape, vape it. If you feel it could be better with more of one or the other flavoring(s) involved, or perhaps another flavoring, add slowly, and taste after every addition. If it's still a little rough, allow it to sit for 24 hours, then try again.
I know some people swear by steeping, and I am even inclined to admit that some blends benefit from such a practice. However, I am trying to dispel the notion of mandatory steeping for every blend created. It's simply not necessary
Let me know what you think.
jdenson, you certainly are a brave soul! I'm new to DIY, but I'm not going to mix any flavors until I've tried that single flavor first. I also mix small batches, either 5 ml, or 10 ml. I want to know how strong or weak that particular flavor is. When I found that sweet spot for each flavor, I will start deciding on what to mix together, one at a time. I may be wrong, but that's the way I'm approaching it.
I'm also using Wizard Labs nicotine, and it's odorless.
I'm also using Wizard Labs nicotine, and it's odorless.
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