Newbie help for e-cigarette

[nimit]

Hi all,

I am a new-ish vaper coming from being a 30-ish a day smoker. I've had a couple of cigarettes on nights out but have been off the manuals pretty much since October 2012, and vaping since January. I want to stay as a vaper, but need some help! I've tried to get through as much information as I can on PV's, dual coils, cartomisers, clearomisers, tanks, dripping etc etc, and frankly my brain is just about fried...

At the moment, I have a Jacvapour V1P set up, which came with 2 v3 batteries. I think it's a fairly beginner set up, but has been good for my needs so far. The problem is I have the luxury of being able to vape at work, and the battery doesn't last long enough (use one, charge one alternating all day). I need something with a larger battery and ideally something with a large e-liquid capacity, so that I don't have to worry about filling in the day, or going down the dripping route. I reckon I use about four or five ml of liquid a day, but am happy to carry a couple of carto's or whatever other option is recommended... Price is a massive consideration for me, and was the reason I quite smoking in the first place.

So what are the thoughts on the ego 510 duo deluxe? (link here eGo 510 Duo-Deluxe Kit). Two 750 mah 3.7 volt batteries with a standard 510 fitting that can use atomisers or cartomisers. Comes with charger and tip. If this would seem a logical step.

Next, I haven't really sussed the difference between an atomiser, cartomiser, clearomiser and tanks. Could I use any of these with the above?!?! I want something ideally I can fill at night /in the morning that should last a good few hours, give a decent vape and that can be refilled multiple times (it's all about the cost, remember? )

Any help appreciated! I need to get something sorted as I want to order with some juice, and I only have a couple of days worth left!

Thank you

 

[chewmieser]

Only advise I can give is that I've had great luck with eGo-C / Vision eGo Clearos. Vivi Novas and Kanger T3s always come up as highly recommended, but I can only pass judgement on the latter: it's pretty decent but I dislike how cool the vapor comes out at (maybe just me, but I liked the warm vapor my Visions put out).

If you're feeling spunky, you could grab an eGo-C Twist for some basic VV. Or a passthrough so you can vape while you charge.

 

[scuzzy]

Not a bad kit to switch to, and you also get 2 of each,,,,, nice. You should notice the battery difference from your current model.

I would personally go with an ego twist kit, I think you may get a little longer in terms of value for money vs longevity

You could start with just using the empty carts which will hold about 1.1ml of juice, or also purchase a kit which contains a clearomiser or purchase one separately, the Kanger & the Vision V3 hold 1.6ml, or go for the mini nova which holds 2.5mls, it really depends on how much juice you vape,

For work I carry my ego case with a spare battery and 3 cartomisers (Vision V3) each full with different flavours, I may also add the ego Cone head with a couple of filled cartridges...

the good thing about the V3 is its rebuildable and you can be the atty's separately..

 

[Day]

Only advise I can give is that I've had great luck with eGo-C / Vision eGo Clearos. Vivi Novas and Tanger T3s always come up as highly recommended, but I can only pass judgement on the latter: it's pretty decent but I dislike how cool the vapor comes out at (maybe just me, but I liked the warm vapor my Visions put out).

If you're feeling spunky, you could grab an eGo-C Twist for some basic VV. Or a passthrough so you can vape while you charge.

Just got a Nova, and really displeased with the "cool vapor" as you just stated. Are they all like this? I got mine from altsmoke, cant tell if it's a vivi knock off or not, but it's really not hitting like my CE5 clearos are.

@OP I'm with the others, an eGo Twist or a eGo passthrough is the way I would go.

 

[Baditude]

Proper terminology - Is it a carto, a tank, or what? Juice delivery attachments.

Dripping ATOMIZERS are similar to a cartomizer, but contain no polyfill material to hold e-liquid. Only a few drops of liquid can be used at a time, after which additional liquid needs to be applied. Many prefer this method of vaping because the e-juice's flavor is not altered by any wicking material and results in the best, purest flavor available in vaping.

CARTOMIZERS are steel tubes filled with a polyfiber that looks very much like a cigarette filter, and have a heating coil within it which heats e-liquid into vapor. There is a small air tube in the center of the carto running its entire length which directs the vapor into a drip tip that is placed on the end of the carto.

Single coil cartomizers have one heating element in them and dual coil cartomizers have two heating elements. These can be used alone to vape your e-liquid.

Cartos may be filled by using a couple of methods, but I prefer to fill them by dripping into the top, using a toothpic in the center air hole to prevent liquid from getting in it, thereby preventing "flooding" the carto, not a good thing. Fill slowly until the polyfill has the appearance of a slushy drink. The shake the carto downward like a thermometer; this acts like a centrifuge does by forcing the liquid down into the carto. Add more liquid, and shake it down again. It should now be ready to use.
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The above pic is of a "pre-punched" cartomizer (note the small hole near the bottom of the cylinder) ready to be filled and inserted inside of a cartotank. Cartomizers may be purchased with these holes (pre-punched). Use only stainless steel cartos for tanks, not the black ones, which have a sticker applied for appearance purposes.

Unpunched cartos can also be used in tanks, but require the user to make his own holes in order for the juice in the tank to be able to make its way to the heating coil inside the cartomizer. A carto punch tool can accomplish this. I recommend for beginners to purchase the pre-punched cartos initially. One or two holes is adequate for all but the most thick e-liquids.
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Above is a pic of a typical CARTOTANK. It is made up of a clear tube with end caps on either end. A punched cartomizer is inserted between the two endcaps. A drip tip, or mouthpiece, fits into the end of the carto. This combination is what is referred to as a cartomizer tank.

These can have a juice capacity of between 2 - 9 ml.

Tube material can be polycarbonate or polypropylene plastic, pyrex glass, or stainless steel. Pyrex is the preferred material. Endcaps can be made of plastic or metal.

Tanks sizes are generally categorized by length as a standard (using a 35mm cartomizer) or an XL size (using a 45mm cartomizer). The diameter of tanks can vary greatly, but typically are between 19mm and 25mm.

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Above are CLEAROMIZERs. These can be considered small tanks as the container holding the juice is typically clear plastic. Instead of polyfill like a cartomizer uses, these use string-like wicks that draw the e-liquid to an atomizer head, which contains the heating coil to make vapor.

These can have a juice capacity of between 1.5 - 2.5 ml or more. These are filled by removing the top cap and dripping in the liquid, careful to not get any into the center airhole.

Some flavors, such as cinnamon and citrus flavors, can react with the plastic used in these and cause the material to crack or actually melt.
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Above is a CE2 ​(some vendors call these a CE3 or a clear cartomizer). These are sort of a hybrid cartomizer/clearomizer. They typically are the same length and diameter of a cartomizer, but are clear like a clearomizer, and use the same atomizer head with string wicks like a clearomizer.

I find these quite useful to test out new flavors from juice samplers because they can be easily emptied and refilled with another flavor quite easily.

These can have a juice capacity between 1 - 1.5 ml. Most versions require removing the top and injecting e-liquid into the tube with a fine needle and syringe, but there are newer versions that may be filled by just removing the top, such as a device known as the Nano.

These appear to be immune to the flavors known to crack plastic, as the material used is polypropylene.

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VIVI NOVA TANKS use wicking strings and an atomizer head like a clearomizer, but have a larger juice capacity in their tanks of between 2 ml and 3.5 ml. The atomizer heads in these are replaceable, so if you are relatively handy you can replace a bad head with a new one so that you don't have to buy an entire tank replacement. These are filled by removing the top cap. These are often recommended for beginning vapors because of their ease of use.

The tube material in these is still polycarbonate plastic to the best of my knowledge, so these tanks are susceptible to damaging effects by certain flavors.

There are metal tubes available to replace the plastic ones should you wish to use one of the above flavors. Just make certain that it is metal all the way around, as some of the metal tubes have a juice window which is made of the same kind of plastic that is susceptible to the tank-cracking juices!
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* Please be aware that certain flavors, such as cinnamon and citris flavors, can
have damaging effects on the clear plastic tubes of these attachments that use polycarbonate plastic.

This is why pyrex glass, polypropylene plastic, and stainless steel is recommended for the tubes. A relatively up-to-date list of these flavors can be found at this link:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-crack-tanks-ce2s-clearos-30.html#post7805448


I wrote an additional article of juice delivery devices that are safe to use with the above volatile flavors that can be found in this link:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...s-flavors.html

 

[nimit]

Thank you all for your replies; some great advice. The post above about the different delivery attachements is very useful. Do any of them have an expected usage life? I know for carto's some people will dispose on a single use and some will say forty refills, so I know it's relative! Is this the same for the clearomizers, nova or cartotanks?

 

[chewmieser]

Thank you all for your replies; some great advice. The post above about the different delivery attachements is very useful. Do any of them have an expected usage life? I know for carto's some people will dispose on a single use and some will say forty refills, so I know it's relative! Is this the same for the clearomizers, nova or cartotanks?

I like the way Sun-Vapors puts this:

How long do they last?
We have some users who claim they last a month others a few days. Vaping is like anything else that is consumed, its up to the user and his/her habits and personal style. Its much like asking… “How long does a gallon of fuel last?” As a good rule of thumb a few days to about two weeks are considered normal. We do not guarantee they will last any amount of time. We also suggest that if the flavor changes, but the device still works that you switch heads. They are meant to be disposable, they are sold at a price point to keep the user from having to perform maintenance on the device. Simply toss it. If you like to tinker and solve puzzles the atomizer heads can be rebuilt with your own wick and wire.

 

[Day]

My local shop recommends the disposable clearos for about 10ml of liquid, that's about 4-5 fills. I find they can go longer than that most of the time. The new ones with the replaceable heads are awesome though because you can just swap out the head/wick and keep on trucking with same tank. It's all pretty relative and sometimes your stuff just burns out on you or just stops working.